Eliath Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 ++ASTROPATHIC CHOIR INTERCEPT XC144, DORN’S LIGHT 977.992.M41++ ++MESSAGE FRAGMENT RECOVERED BY CHOIRMASTER++ ++TRANSCRIPT FOLLOWS:++ ++…VINDAR IS LOST, CASUALTIES TO HIS MAJESTY'S SERVANTS AND IMPERIAL GUARD PRESUMED CATASTROPHIC. ONLY HAVENPORT STILL STANDS. AS LORD-GOVERNOR, RECOGNISED BY THE HIGH LORDS OF TERRA, I BESEECH ALL IMPERIAL SERVANTS RECEIVING THIS MESSAGE TO COME TO OUR AID WITH ALL HASTE. MAY THE EMPEROR SHIELD US.++ ++DATA-SEAL OF LORD-GOVERNOR TRUVAN VERIFIED IN ASTROPATHIC ROUTING MEME…+++ ++MESSAGE ORIGIN CONFIRMED AS VINDAR, MINING WORLD, ULTIMA SEGMENTUM++ ++TRASNSCIPT FORWARDED TO THE BRIDGE FOR ATTENTION OF MARSHALL ST. BERARD++ ++MARK MOST URGENT++ So this will be the start of my local game store's local campaign/escalation league. I will be posting battle reports, WIP pics, asking for list advice, and generally talking tactics from 500-2000pts. Any and all comments/suggestions are welcome. For Sigismund! For Dorn! For the Emperor! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliath Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 So this will be my first ever battle report that is viewed by anyone other than myself. I typically write down "lessons learned" afterwards to refer back to, but never put it out there to see what people think. I will try to remember my opponents force w/ gear as best as able. Black Templar vs Emperor's Children - 500pts Deployment: Standard Victory Condition: Annihilation Black Templar: Reclusiarch, 5 Sword Brethren, Rhino 5 Knights w/ heavy bolter 5 Knights w/ heavy bolter Speeder Typhoon Emperor's Children: Daemon Prince w/ lash 3 Obliterators 10 Marines w/ rhino So we had 4 imperial ruins pretty much divided into the corners. I deployed my 2 heavy bolter squads in the right ruins, my rhino in the middle and the speeder towards the left ruin on my side. He set up pretty much the same, with the obliterators and prince in the far left ruin, rhino in the middle. BT Turn 1: I moved the speeder up the left flank to get a clear LOS on the prince as I know it will tear my force to pieces. The 2 HB squads sit in the ruins, while the rhino moves up the middle slightly and pops smoke. I fire everything I have at the prince and end up landing a wound on it. Only 3 more! EC Turn 1: The prince flys out of the ruins and lashes one of the HB squads backwards out of the ruins. He moves the rhino up the middle for some hot rhino on rhino action. The obliterators fire and practically do nothing. BT Turn 2: I move my rhino up to screen the 2 HB squads from his obliterators and rhino squad. I unleash everything again at the prince and another wound. 2 more! The obliterators fire at the rhino and land a penetrating hit, but I save it with a handy cover save from some of the terrain sitting the middle (tank traps, fences, etc). EC Turn 2: He moves his rhino squad up next to my rhino and disembarks. He jumps the prince close to my 2 HB squads. I know they are practically dead at this point, but if I can just get lucky with the typhoon I have a shot. His obliterators fire at the Typhoon and miss. His marine squad charges the rhino and destroys. The prince charges and tears apart one of the HB squads, then consolidates towards the speeder. BT Turn 3: I sit tight. My sword brethren + reclusiarch now have a target to vent their righteous fury. The Prince is hobbled and I smell blood in the water. I fire the HB squad at the prince and land one more wound! The typhoon gunner draws a bead and plants 2 missiles in its back, sending it back to the warp. Huzzah! The reclusiarch leads the furious charge into the traitors and wipe them out. EC Turn 3: At this point, with only a rhino and 3 obliterators left, my opponent withdraws like a coward! All in all, things went my way. The obliterators did nothing at all, and I dont think he realized the missiles were going to tear the prince to pieces with a 3+ armor save. Now this player is consistently going to 'Ard Boyz and advancing to the final tournament, so I know he wasn't a scrub, he just wasnt trying to a field a tournament 500pt list haha. What I Learned: The Typhoon is worth its weight in gold. But we all knew this. Just like a lot of BT players see 2,000 pt lists as 1,860pts on account of the emperor's champion, I am beginning to see it as 1,650pts with 3 speeders added in. I feel like the sword brethren did well, but I think a command squad would do even better. Add 15pts and you can have feel no pain along with furious charge. I will be changing my list slightly. Moving Foward: Some roster changes are in order I believe. I think i'll be going with a list similar to what Marshall Laeroth is using in his league. Reclusiarch w/ bp, 8 man command squad, apothecary, melta, flamer, fc, rhino w/ smoke. 5 knights w/ ML, plasma. Speeder Typhoon. I like the fire power change. I had the 2 HBs in originally to counter necron armies, but to my surprise, there arent that many in this league. So I went with a missile launcher for the duality, and a larger command squad. I dont think there is much at 500pts that will be able to compete with that unit. I'll continue to share my crusades progress. I'll also have WIP pictures coming up soon. I'm currently trying to get the right color combination on my tabards =) For Sigismund! For Dorn! For the Emperor! - Marshall Eliath St. Berard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2937237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Alaric Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 congrats on the win brother! i know they're more expensive, but i might suggest a plasma cannon as well for dealing with MEq and TEq, as it looks like you might have to deal with some more chaos armies with power armor or termy armor. i know they're more expensive, i just love their destructive nature! :D i haven't gotten the chance to use a tyhpoon yet, but i think it will be a purchase in the near future, judging by all of the praise they get in the BT forums, when's your next match? is it kinda weekly or monthly thing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2937851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliath Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 I'll be posting batreps as games happen. At the very least once a week. Any insights or hobby progress will be posted here as well. I toyed with the idea of throwing a plasma cannon in there but I tend to miss scatter rolls pretty badly. I switched from a lascannon to a ML because after I de-mech them, the ML atleast has the option to kill mass troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2937874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Alaric Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 sounds tactical thinking, i was just suggesting. when i graduate from college next may i want to get into an escalation or league setting at my local GW store up in washington, sounds like a good time! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2938295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliath Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 Our lists in this league are not set, so I can switch it up and I might throw a plasma cannon in there if I see more meq armies. The ap2 isn't necessary on orks, eldar, etc. Plus...have you seen my propensity to roll 1s!? Haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2938344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Alaric Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 well that's what the chaplain and his zeal helps with giving it to your sb! lol though that doesn't help you with shooting however...then again, 1's are good when rolling for scatter with a plasma cannon blast template :) haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2938447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliath Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 So I've mainly been working on painting, occasionally practicing with a friend to get ready for when the League starts on Jan 2. I played quite a few games, but since we both know the rules pretty well, we hammer out 5-6 500pt games in the span of a few hours. He is bringing Chaos Marines. The main update is that I smashed his forces with ease, only falling to a draw twice. I've updated my list and so far, its been damn good against MEQ. Now I havent tested it against a horde-type list, and unfortunately I wont get to until the league starts. Here is what I got: Reclusiarch w/bp 8-man Command squad w/ FC, apoth, melta, flamer, rhino w/ smoke 5 knights w/ missile launcher, plasmagun Typhoon With 3 template weapons (4 if you count the typhoons 2 shots) I feel like I will do well against horde types. That command squad is wrecking squads. The small knight squad provides decent firepower for down transports and picking off a guy or two throughout the course of the game, not to mention they are my objective holders. More to come shortly. For Sigismund! For Dorn! For the Emperor! --Marshall Eliath St. Berard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2951728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Alaric Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 ya, that squad's basically your game changer ya? if it hits, lots of things die haha what does he run? is it your tactics or troops that are winning your games so easily? (i say easily just cuz that's what i feel you're implying lol glad you're wrecking with your templars though man!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2952001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliath Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 I'd say a little of both. There are some very subtle way to influence how your opponent moves. I started blocking stuff with my rhino or my most recent revelation: I parked my rhino up against his left door, so he couldn't jump out from that side. Small things like that I'd say was winning games for me tactically. He is bringing a sorc with doombolt, 2 squads of 8 marines in rhinos and a 5-man havoc squad. My typhoon will skate around out of Los for his havocs and pop transports and generally be a major nuisance. We play with a ton of terrain, so I can keep it out of danger from heavy weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2952174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Alaric Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 sounds like a fun game man, i feel like smaller games can challenge you just as much, if not more than the bigger games ya know? in bigger games, you've done your best with redundancy so if one part of your army gets taken out you can still do that thing (let's say AT) but in a small game, if he gets your typhoon (i don't know how, let's just say) then you are gonna have a tougher time of it ya know? anywho, glad you're beatin up on some chaos baddies! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2953016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliath Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 Indeed. I can see the speeder going down early on some occasions. I do like laeroth's redundancy rule but in the low point games it becomes different. If the speeder dies, I made sure to have some sort of anti-armor in every squad. The missile launcher in the small squad and the melta in the command squad. It's the worst thing to have some crucial shot down and now you literally CAN'T kill armor. At the 800pt upgrade I plan on including the EC in a squad of knights with a powerfist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2953053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Alaric Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 sounds like you have a good idea of what you're doing man. your batreps are always short and too the point too! good work, keep it up! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2953071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliath Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Well Brothers, the first day of the escalation league came and went. I got in 4 games today which was pretty good. One major question tho...does anyone know how to clean baby seal blood off my club? *wakka wakka* I went 4-0. Through the first 3 games I had lost a total of 4 models. I'll be posting up a slightly more in-depth batrep soon, so stay tuned. But the good news is, I got to cut down Team Edward and Team Jacob marines. Huzzah. -- Marshall Eliath St. Berard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2956976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Alaric Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 bleach to strong? damn fine work man, 4-0 is ALWAYS a welcome record haha good stuff! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2957455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliath Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 Ok new update. And I'll do a brief synopsis of the battles since I've played so many (11 now) in such a short time that I couldn't go in-depth too much now haha. I'll touch on the main points and game changing or deciding occurances. First off...11-0 is now my record. Ive had a few close calls that were from either a mistake, or bad dice rolling, or both. So here we go... Game 1 vs Imperial Guard This guy brought 13 autocannons and tons of infantry. Ouch. He tabled my buddy the game before, so I was looking forward to this matchup. Spearhead deployment, annihilation. I stole the initiative (which was huge) and ran my rhino up the right side of the board towards his monster triangle of guardsmen in the corner. I popped smoke and prayed. The Emperor smiled upon me cause he only ended up landing 2 penetrating hits, 1 of which I saved, the remained blew off my storm bolter. Oh Noez!!! I plowed the rhino forward more near a building where I received a cover save and he once again displayed ork-like shooting, only managing to immoblize the rhino. Thats fine, it was in position. I disembarked my command squad, spread them out 2" each into a massive 20" line, and multi-charged his entire army. It ended poorly for him. He forfeited when I didn't lose a model. Result: Massacre, turn 3 Game 2 vs Team Edward Marines This dude was brand spanking new. He had a tac squad, captain and an assault squad. His assault squad chased my speeder around while I picked off guys. My 5-man crusader squad w/ missile and plasmagun whittled down his tac squad. His assault marines ended up charging my rhino and blowing it up with a pfist, then subsequently got charged and wiped out. I eventually killed off his tac squad in non-entertaining fashion. Result: Massacre, turn 4 Game 3 vs Team Jacob Marines Another new player. Super nice guy who rolled bloody awful. I rolled up and blew off his TL las on the razorback on turn 1 with my melta in the rhino. Command squad annihilated the long fangs, crusader squad picked his grey hunter w/ battle leader apart. Like I said this dude rolled poorly. Highlight of the game was immoblizing my own rhino by ramming his razorback. Result: Massacre, turn 4 Game 4 vs Battle Chicks This was a vet player with amazingly painted models. He tore my crusader up with a bunch of rending heavy bolters. My command squad disembarked ready to bring the pain when his immolated outflanked with a squad of dominions with flamers. Wow, lots of wounds were taken. Thank the emperor for feel no pain. I ended up multi-charging those two squads and wiping them out on a sweeping advance. I hid my speeder at the end to deny a killpoint. Result: Kill-point victory 3-2 Game 5 vs Battle Chicks Two sister's players in one city, what the deuce?! This guy's sisters also looked awesome. This one was a snorefest. I honestly felt bad, so I started flubbing my rolls at the end to make it somewhat competitive, but I just rolled amazing and he rolled awful. Command squad charged a full squad of sisters, 20-strong and killed em on the charge. He pretty much didn't have much left after that, but the command squad chased em down and ended it. Poor guy =( Game 6 vs Team Edward Marines So I played this guy earlier. He had bought some death company with a librarian and threw em in there. Let me say that I will never underestimate that squad, ever again haha. I tore his assault marines and priest up and consolidated into a trench. That squad charged me and tore me to ribbons. I ended up charging my crusader squad in there to maybe tip the balance. It didn't. He killed them to a man as well. I blew up his razoback so we were tied on KPs 3-3. So I had a rhino and a speeder left. He literally had a librarian and 1 death company guy left. I won when he tried to cast a spell and perils of the warp and died. Result: Kill-point victory 4-3 Game 7 vs The Emperor's Favored Chapter So a brand new Black Templar player! I felt I'd school him cause he went with all gunline with no vehicles. He dumped quite a few points into his Castellan however. I rolled horribly and squeked out a win. I got my command squad of the rhino and forgot to bloody move them so I couldnt charge. Obviously his Castellan and squad did charge however. He singled out my reclusiarch with his HQ and whacked him...ugh. I won a protracted combat, but after that, boring. Result: Kill-point victory 4-2 Game 8 vs Team Edward Marines This kid was a pretty good player with a weird setup for blood angels. He ran a devastator squad and a tac squad with priest. That dev squad was hella scary tho. He knocked out the rhino on turn 1. So footslogging for me. Yay. I eventually got to his tac squad and killed em then dodged behind cover while moving to the devs. Ended up wiping them, but I definitely had pucked factor during this one. Result: Massacre, turn 5 Game 9 vs Space Marines Pretty new player here as well. He ran a tac squad and a big dev squad. Problem was that he put them in the open so I picked them apart and tore his librarian and tac squad up them ran thru his dev squad. Nice dude, new player with nothing to counter a hammer like that command squad. Result: Massacre, turn 4 Game 10 vs Eldar Holy crap this dude was a douche. My buddy had warned me about this guy and he was spot on. Ran howling banshees, a seer with counsel and dire avengers. This was bad. He left his crap out in the open, not worried about my missiles and whatnot. I blew his seer and counsel up before they crossed the terrain in the middle. It was over quickly. Result: Massacre, turn 3 Game 11 vs Eldar He wanted a rematch! Didn't really feel like it, but oh well. He swapped his howling banshees out for warp spiders. His reasoning for this was "in the first game, I thought Templars are all rawr close combat and stuff." My response was, yeah they are, but I'm not stupid. I hung back in this game as well and it did end up being pretty close. However with multi-combats I killed his warp spiders off and then that counsel couldn't do much in CC against 3+ armor and FNP. Result: Massacre, turn 6 So far so good. 11-0 with a fully painted army puts me at 44pts. I should be leader the league thus far if I'm mistaken. I havent seen anyone up there near as much. We'll see on tuesday when they post the rankings. --Marshall Eliath St. Berard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2961521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Alaric Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 sweet deal man! i massacred an eldar player today too! he ran 2x 5 man dire avengers w/a big guardian blob that had a missile platform, 6 infiltrating striking scorpions and a farseer w/some powers...i lost 2 assault marines to a missile (i rolled 2 1's for my armor saves... ;) ) and a bolter guy lol highlight was when the scorpions popped up behind me, i went first shot 2 of 'em down and they ran off the board. HAH! :whoops: got beat up by guard auto cannons and a demolisher and then the damn necros edged me out 8-6 as well...1-2 for my night, had a good time though. that scorpion squad made my night haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2961561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Well, looks like you're on a winning streak, good stuff. I also enjoyed reading your batreps, short and to-the-point :tu: Looking forward to seeing some more stuff :) Any pictures in the pipeline? Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2961637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliath Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 I am just about to throw my finishing touches on the 500pt list and will post some pics when I finish up =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2962143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Cool, good to know :P Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2962650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliath Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Greetings brothers. I have 3 more games to report. In my usual short and sweet format... Game 12 vs Orks New guy, but what an army to choose. Close your eyes, bring tons of boyz and anything else...bam, got a decent list. Ran 2 mobs of 20, 5 nobz, warboss with klaw, and the one oddity, a kannon. I pulled the shoot and scoot maneuver, and squeezed his two mobs of boyz into a small corridor of a bridge while my templates from the crusader squad and the speeder rained the wrath of the Emperor down on them. He ended up immoblizing my rhino and honestly, after 4 turns he was winning 1-0. I hadn't killed anything completely off yet. I waited and waited for him to pop my rhino and eventually he got it, but by that time the command squad jumped out, shot, then double charged, he only had about 10 left in both mobs combined. Needless to say, short work. The speeder finished off the kannon. His Nobz and boss got into my command squad and chopped em to bits, but it was already over. Result: Killpoint Victory 4-1 Game 13 vs Team Jacob Marines I had played this guy in 3 but he revamped his list. After my first turn of rolling all 1s and 2s and his grey hunters being all up in my :) already, I felt I was cooked. He wiped out my heavy weapons team in cover, but my command squad was nearby. Those gents, hopped out and fired and charged. Promotion to sword brethren for my flamer knight. Killed 4 space puppies with 1 flamer shot...not bad. After this my dice stopped being silly and the missiles finally started killing stuff, popping his razorback and speeder in one turn. After that I hid in cover for a turn, knowing he couldnt get my killpoints. Result: Killpoint Victory 4-1 Game 14 vs Team Edward Marines Wow. Blood Angels, 10 Assault Marines...priest, chaplain, some upgrades. Thats all. Heres how this went: I picked a target. I fired. It died. I won. Lasted 2 turns total I believe, maybe a third while he jumped his dudes into CC with my rhino. Then rolled snake eyes with his melta. Epic. Result: Massacre, turn 2-3 Three more in the books. As far as the last posting, I was in 1st place with 44pts (before those 3) and 2nd place had 39pts with 4 more games played than I. So far so good. --Marshall Eliath St. Berard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2969149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Another set of victories! Very nice :tu: Any pictures though? ;) Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2969243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliath Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ill have some up today =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2969409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliath Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 I apologize for the poor quality, its the only camera I have!!! Special Weapons Team: http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad30/The_Raven33/9cc06a81.jpg Command Squad: http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad30/The_Raven33/6a23c1f4.jpg I know I'm not the best, but they look good on the table top! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2974329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisada Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 That's a solid looking group of crusaders right there and they have a win record to back it up! keep it up brother, more pics, more victories! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242848-the-vindari-crusade/#findComment-2974456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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