sponsra Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I don´t get what this means. I now precious little SW fluff so please enlighten me. So, the wolves on fenris are really something else? Some sort of Space Wolf secret? Are they Wights? Is this somehow connected to the Wulfen (And what are they?). I´m re-reading Prospero Burns and I'm quiet impressed how Dan Abnett manages to make Space-vikings cool (being Swedish I've had it up to here with Nordic mythology)... He should have named the book "The Rout" though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242991-there-are-no-wolves-on-fenris/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Rawl Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Indeed Abnett really did make the Wolves extremely interesting, which is what he usually does on any given subject. Hell the guy would make reading about paint drying interesting if he decided to write about it. The whole 'There are no Wolves on Fenris' is a hint or suggestion that there are no wolves, the wolves we see are those who have mutated even further due to the Canis Helix, this includes the original settlers of Fenris and those who failed as aspirants to become Space Wolves themselves. If you havn't alreay then read 'A Thousand Sons' there is a part where Ahrimen looks into one of the wolves with his warp site and sees the signs of a man instead of a beast. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242991-there-are-no-wolves-on-fenris/#findComment-2937383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang of Morkai Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Also if you read Battle of the Fang you notice some strange behavior from some wolves when they encounter some ancient Dreadnoughts. Some wolves start following the Dreadnought and show respect and recognition. Possibly as those mutated wolves personally KNEW the guy in the Dread. It's just a theory but it is sound so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242991-there-are-no-wolves-on-fenris/#findComment-2938326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionator Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I think this is the best damn sentence in whole series along with "I was there when Horus slew the Emperor" and "I am your brother." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242991-there-are-no-wolves-on-fenris/#findComment-2938353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watch Commander Danek Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 In my opinion "There are no wolves on Fenris" means Abnett thought he had a clever catchphrase and wrote two horrible books (one a clear rip off of Ahmad ibn Fadlan's journals) around it. Another example of a writer trying too hard to make an established chapter "theirs". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242991-there-are-no-wolves-on-fenris/#findComment-2938357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Týr Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 In my opinion "There are no wolves on Fenris" means Abnett thought he had a clever catchphrase and wrote two horrible books (one a clear rip off of Ahmad ibn Fadlan's journals) around it. Another example of a writer trying too hard to make an established chapter "theirs". Which books are you refering to? Prospero Burns I know is the one, but what's the other? It's just I only remember "there are no wolves on Fenris" being used in one Dan Abnett book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242991-there-are-no-wolves-on-fenris/#findComment-2938396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodanshi Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 It originally appeared in Graham McNeill’s A Thousand Sons. So it seems like Abnett was simply taking up the phrase from that book, not trying to invent something of his own. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242991-there-are-no-wolves-on-fenris/#findComment-2938400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfulawful Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I read another meaning in it as well, that the Space Wolves were not actually the savage brutes that everyone believed them to be, particularly Russ himself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242991-there-are-no-wolves-on-fenris/#findComment-2938424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 In my opinion "There are no wolves on Fenris" means Abnett thought he had a clever catchphrase and wrote two horrible books (one a clear rip off of Ahmad ibn Fadlan's journals) around it. Another example of a writer trying too hard to make an established chapter "theirs". Consider me a simpleton but I don't understand it yet either. I'm going to agree with Danek until otherwise :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242991-there-are-no-wolves-on-fenris/#findComment-2938461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 In my opinion "There are no wolves on Fenris" means Abnett thought he had a clever catchphrase and wrote two horrible books (one a clear rip off of Ahmad ibn Fadlan's journals) around it. Another example of a writer trying too hard to make an established chapter "theirs". A Thousand Sons was actually written at the same time as Prospero Burns and was scheduled for simultaneous release but PB was delayed due to fairly serious health issues for Mr Abnett. So hardly a rip-off and more a tie-in between the two books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242991-there-are-no-wolves-on-fenris/#findComment-2938468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 There was already a thread on this, which is now in slumber. Unless there is some new/enlighten commentary let it sleep. This thread will be put to death.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/242991-there-are-no-wolves-on-fenris/#findComment-2938476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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