--eFTy--> Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I'm debating whether to get and read Battle of the Fang or not. After the huge fail that was Prospero Burns I'm a bit wary that this book will not really give me too much insight into the Thousand Sons, and I pretty much am already sick of space wolves. Of course I've seen lots of reviews online but they all focus on the wolves. So - if anyone here has read it, please share. I'd like to know if it's worth the money and/or time for a Thousand Sons enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I'd be interested to know about this book as well after the disaster of Prospero Burns, I'm inclined not to read a wolf-centered book to gain slivers of information about the Tsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah-a-nothepsis Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I've read it twice, just in case I missed something. Most of my Space Wolf friends agree with me: Though it's a Space Marines Battles book about the Space Wolves, I am not exaggerating when I tell you that 80% of the book is actually Thousand Sons perspective/narration/voices. Check it out. You will get some interesting ideas and insight into how the Rubrics operate during combat situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulf Vengis Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I thought it was a good read. Ive read it twice now and couldnt put it down both time. The Thousand Sons were portrayed well in my opinion and I had felt the book though leaning closer 60% Wolfcentric did a great job of 'leading' us through the Thousand Sons part of the story. If youre not sure about the worth of it try to borrow it from a friend to get started on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I personally think it is the best 40k book I've read. Good mix TS/SW points of view, similar to Storm of Iron. Definitely worth a read whether you're a Space Wolf fan or a Son of Magnus player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Read it. Then read it again. And a third time for good measure. It's one of the best 40k books written, with the exclusion A D-B's stuff. It's not overly wolfy or Thousand Sonny, so no matter what you're interested in, you'll probably like it. It also expands the Prospero Burns Wolves, so it's a bit more serious and practical than the Space Wolf series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Hmm this is actually making my interested in the book. Even though I always found the Space Wolves to be rather ridiculous and felt bad for the poor Thousand Sons to have such a silly nemesis that keeps defeating them. That said I thought Prospero Burns was "ok" but it was mostly just some guy hanging out with some Space Wolves and recalling the same memory over and over again while the Space Wolves ate sloppily and probably smelled bad. Never read A Thousand Sons because Graham McNiell makes my eyes bleed. Which is I guess important, how much characterization is there in this book and how much is "Boom! Bang! Wallop! And then a titan!"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 It's not as much characterization as A D-B, whom I must really stop using as a comparison, but it's certainly a pretty nice amount, especially for 40k. Chris Wraight seems like he tends more towards battles that are more background to something that advances the plot or adds to a character, rather than battle for battle's sake, if you get what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Its ok. I would read it but I wouldn't expect what everyone else is saying. As a TSon fan, I felt they were depicted ok. But space wolves still get preferential treatment, like in every book they appear in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--eFTy--> Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 I thought it was a good read. Ive read it twice now and couldnt put it down both time. The Thousand Sons were portrayed well in my opinion and I had felt the book though leaning closer 60% Wolfcentric did a great job of 'leading' us through the Thousand Sons part of the story. If youre not sure about the worth of it try to borrow it from a friend to get started on it. Storm of Iron is actually my favourite 40k book, so far, so your argument is quite convincing. :P Read it. Then read it again. And a third time for good measure. It's one of the best 40k books written, with the exclusion A D-B's stuff. It's not overly wolfy or Thousand Sonny, so no matter what you're interested in, you'll probably like it. It also expands the Prospero Burns Wolves, so it's a bit more serious and practical than the Space Wolf series. Give Thousand Sons a try. It's miles above his previous work like the first Ultramarines books, and it has loads of background info on the legion. Unfortunately though it also had the side effect of making me kinda hate Magnus and appreciate Ahriman, completely opposite to my previous opinion. But this is very subjective in the end. So give it a shot if you're into the Sons. Cheers for all the replies, guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I'll probably end up reading this now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I'll probably end up reading this now too. Same, I'm not a huge fan of either faction but I'm a sucker for a good battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethrion Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I read it and it was amazing. Definitely the best of the 'Space Marine Battles Novels'. But for certain 'A Thousand Sons' is the best by far IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randian Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 It's interesting to see three aspects of Magnus. 1) How non-Chaosy he seems despite having been a Daemon for 2000 years. 2) How fatherly he still is to his marines. He's pretty much abandoned them in 40k, preferring to probe the mysteries of Chaos instead. 3) How he's starting to change. The callous and casual way he sacrificed that marine is not how he would have treated his troops before his ascension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 its a great book for seeing how the wolves and the sons have got where they have and how they changed over time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Read it. Then read it again. And a third time for good measure. It's one of the best 40k books written, with the exclusion A D-B's stuff. It's not overly wolfy or Thousand Sonny, so no matter what you're interested in, you'll probably like it. It also expands the Prospero Burns Wolves, so it's a bit more serious and practical than the Space Wolf series. Give Thousand Sons a try. It's miles above his previous work like the first Ultramarines books, and it has loads of background info on the legion. Unfortunately though it also had the side effect of making me kinda hate Magnus and appreciate Ahriman, completely opposite to my previous opinion. But this is very subjective in the end. So give it a shot if you're into the Sons. Cheers for all the replies, guys! I've read A Thousand Sons and liked it. I still can't decide whether I like Prospero Burns or A Thousand Sons better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narse Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I read this Monday start to finish. It is written pretty well, I am rereading it slower now so I can catch the nuances a little better. From the Thousand Sons side, Magnus makes choices as if army is disposable or able to be replenished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodanshi Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Reading this at the moment! I struggled through Iron Company, despite some great characters in it, but his Sword of Vengeance and …Justice books were fantastic, with some great plots and characters in it. That is purely why I bought this book. So far it is pretty exciting, I’m certainly enjoying it. And I actually loved Prospero Burns, though it was more like ‘Tales of the Space Wolves, with a small coda about the sacking of Prospero’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodanshi Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I read this Monday start to finish. It is written pretty well, I am rereading it slower now so I can catch the nuances a little better. From the Thousand Sons side, Magnus makes choices as if army is disposable or able to be replenished. Read it all now. From the Space Wolves side, the Wolves defend the Fang as though they have an entire Chapter in place! Overall, a great book though. I particularly love the way Wraight starts killing off major characters almost casually towards the end once Magnus enters the fray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulf Vengis Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 From the Thousand Sons side, Magnus makes choices as if army is disposable or able to be replenished. Magnus a very large mortal army leading his charge. Its not numberless, but its got thousands of warriors to be wasted and spent like spare change. Read it all now. From the Space Wolves side, the Wolves defend the Fang as though they have an entire Chapter in place! The wolves also had a sizable force at their disposal. Again not limitless but still at least a few thousands of huskaerls to defend the hearth. Also, the Wolves ALWAYS fight like theyve got an entire chapter behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah-a-nothepsis Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Again not limitless but still at least a few thousands of huskaerls Fenrisian children with knives to defend the hearth. Fixed. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Hawk Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I'm a long time thousand sons sympathizer, and I found the book to be really really informative as to the state of mind of the Legion after the Heresy Btw, noob question, how do you edit your avatar? Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonny Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I'm planning to read it still, sometime soon, but is there any mention of thousand sons vehicles, such as rhinos and predators, and whether they are tracked or floating (as I've seen a few people suggest), and who drives them? Just so I can work my mind around vehicles for my own army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 It's great, my only problem is how despite throwing everything they have at it, the Mangusite Thousand Sons are basically destroyed, I mean if "A Thousand Sons" was n't already to make Thousand Sons players hate their Primarch, then this is just icing on the cake. It is a great book, would certainly recommend it to people, but it has left me thinking. When are we going to see a book/story where the Thousand Sons succeed, or at least don't get slaughtered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethrion Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 It's great, my only problem is how despite throwing everything they have at it, the Magnusite Thousand Sons are basically destroyed, I mean if "A Thousand Sons" wasn't already to make Thousand Sons players hate their Primarch, then this is just icing on the cake. It is a great book, would certainly recommend it to people, but it has left me thinking. When are we going to see a book/story where the Thousand Sons succeed, or at least don't get slaughtered? Well it could be argued that the Thousand Sons were successful. The whole point was not to destroy the Fang but to prevent the Space Wolves from becoming a dominant marine force in the galaxy (which in the end was achieved). While hundreds of thousands of human forces were indeed expended in attaining this goal not many actual Thousand Sons sorcerers were lost, most of them just vanishing before the space wolf reinforcements arrived. No doubt it was a costly venture but one that ultimately was a victory for Magnus although no loyalist could know what his real aims had been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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