army310 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 well is my first try at it. i used the eavy metal book. http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC070263.jpg http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC070264.jpg http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC070265.jpg http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC070266.jpg http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC070267.jpg http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC070268.jpg http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC070269.jpg http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC080271.jpg http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC080272.jpg http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC080273.jpg http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC080274.jpg What do you think and how can I do this better? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
subtlebrush Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I myself have not begun to travel the road of NMM but I think you did a fantastic job! Hopefully someone with extensive NMM can actually help you haha. +++Mr.M+++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2941171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenfarr Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Hey, I think you did a good job on the color choice for the NMM and you definitely have the right amount of contrast on it. My only real criticism on this model, is the blending. I think you need to work on the blends a little more, maybe thin your paints more and work over several layers. I think that's really all that needs some work. Once the blends get a little smoother and more subtle, you'll have a great model! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2941555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
army310 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 zenfarr thanks and ill try to thin it down a bit Mr M. thanks:) http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC110275.jpg http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC110276.jpg http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx287/army310/PC110277.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2941719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Really nice work on 'quick' NMM. I can agree that the results will be superior if you blend more, but I am an advocate for 'layering' when you don't want to spend crazy amounts of time blending. This is a good example of how 'clean line' layering can produce a very pleasing result. Great work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2941750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponAdept Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I havn't even tried NMM yet, if my first effort looked like this I'd be more than satisfied. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2941876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Nice try for a first attempt :jaw: If you can get hold of it the Heavy Metal Medium that comes in the HM brush set is fantastic for blending as the paint stays wet longer and can be thinned much more heavily than with water only. I hope that GW release the medium fully as it works even better than W+N Acrylic Flow Improver for blending work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2941905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komodo Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 You got the main idea, now try to blend smoother. Also try to highlight thinner. Nice job overall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2941927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Nice try for a first attempt :) If you can get hold of it the Heavy Metal Medium that comes in the HM brush set is fantastic for blending as the paint stays wet longer and can be thinned much more heavily than with water only. I hope that GW release the medium fully as it works even better than W+N Acrylic Flow Improver for blending work. I guarantee that the GW 'Heavy Metal Medium' is a repackaged product made by another company. Now, the question about which company's product is another story. I have no idea. That said, have a look at acrylic medium from any other company to see if you can find something that works as well. It's out there, and at a better price, I'm sure of it. Currently I'm using (and enjoying) Vallejo Matte Medium (Thinner). Another quick point; Flow Aid products are different than Mediums. Flow Aid helps paint flow smoothly in general, but also helps with blending. Mediums will thin paints, basically turning them in to a Wash, and that helps considerably with blending. But, Mediums will not give the same 'flowing' advantages. Use both to get the best of both worlds; Thin the paint down with Medium, and then add a bit of 'FlowAid water'. Keep using the 'FlowAid water' as you work to keep the paint working smoothly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2942059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komodo Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 As for myself, I use Amsterdam acrylic medium. Costed me around 3 J, 75 ml bottle. Using it for a couple a years, still not even near a half bottle used :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2942086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru2012 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Really nice as a first try, I'm a little bit off trying nmm as I think its a little above my paygrade. Just on question, what effect were you going for with the power sword? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2942511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
army310 Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 Thanks guys ill try mediums you were talking about and effect for the power sword is he just turn in on and its powering up. I never seen anyone try to paint this so I really dont know what it looks like. PS: how can i make my white lines thiner I use a citadel fine detail brush(i know GW stuff is a rip off) and should i water it down some because of the most part i just paint out of the pot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2942697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Get yourself 2 or 3 really high quality Kolinsky Sable (Key: Not just Sable, but 'Kolinsky' Sable) brushes. Brands that come to mind are 'Windsor & Newton Series 7' and 'da Vinci'. You'll want at least one general purpose brush, like a #1 or a #0, and a really nice fine one like a #000. In fact, those three brushes are what I do all of my painting with. A #1 is a bit larger for covering more ground. The #0 is the perfect 'smaller' brush to all kinds of general work, but still has a really nice tip itself. The #000 is for eyes, gems, lenses, etc., since it's quite fine. Be warned, these are quite expensive. However, if you take care of them they will outlast several (even dozens) of the cheaper brushes, hands down. Buy a small container of Brush Soap when you get them. It's cheap, lasts forever with miniature size brushes, and helps keep ALL of your brushes in top form. Proper Brush Soap contains a conditioner that keeps the expensive brushes happy for years. I still own my first #0 W&N Series 7 that's almost 10 years old, and I still use it because even thought its lost some bristles, it still keeps a perfect point. GW brushes haven't been good bang-for-bush since the 'Red Handle - Made in England' (at least here in Canada) ones they had years ago. I still have a few of those, and I'm sure they're Kolinsky Sable, because of how well they've held up. Sadly, the pursuit of highest possible profit margins got the better of GW with regards to many of their tools and supplies. I'll admit, they have gotten much better in quality in recent times, but still not better than outside sources. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2942722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
army310 Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 like these? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Paint-Brush-1-x-Ch...=item45ff6a78e3 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Paint-Brush-1-x-Fi...=item43abe4441c and thanks allot guy and a big thanks to komodo and sublte discord Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2944654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komodo Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Well, you can actually make thin lines with citadel fine detail. It's just a matter of practice and don't push down too much :blush: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243267-non-metallic-metals/#findComment-2944665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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