Pulse Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I thought that was only on one shoulder pad he had the iconography on? Sigismund's armour was black with white pauldrons and the templar iconograhpy that dipected his personal symbol, although i can't remember if it was the entire Imperial Fist first company or just Sigismund's personal squad that copied his colour scheme. The Primarchs anthology artwork shows that Dorn is still being depicted along the lines of John Blanche's sketch (featured in HH:CV) and all of the descriptions of his armour so far depict it as burnished brass/gold (putting me in mind of the armour the Custodes are depicted wearing). Aye, Dorn has always been depicted as having a kind of burnished golden armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2950294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Looks like Fists boarding an Iron Warrior ship, seeing as Dorn took the Phalanx to Terra with him, but Sigismund might be the leader of the attack as he was in command of the Fist expedition. I can't find anything about Sigismunds armour except that he was given new armour when he became the EC but i always thought he had standard IF armour/colours apart from his personalised pauldron? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2950342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I can't find anything about Sigismunds armour except that he was given new armour when he became the EC but i always thought he had standard IF armour/colours apart from his personalised pauldron? He was described as having black armour and white pauldrons - basically what the Black Templars look like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2950420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I can't find anything about Sigismunds armour except that he was given new armour when he became the EC but i always thought he had standard IF armour/colours apart from his personalised pauldron? He was described as having black armour and white pauldrons - basically what the Black Templars look like. It seems it might be a common thing for a Legion's second in command to wear his own personal heraldry, or the heraldry of his command. Like Sigismund and his command, not sure what his command was called, wearing the colors that would become the Black Templars, and Abaddon and his elite Justaerin (not sure of exact spelling) wearing what would later become Black Legion norm during the Luna Wolves days. One can assume that there were certain . . . differences in Legion colors between Great Companies that would eventually carry over to the 2nd Founding Chapters. Stands to reason that the seconds in command would get more leeway in this sort of thing, as Abaddon and Sigismund go to show. I seem to recall something similar among the Thousand Sons, having heraldry specific to their respective psychic schools, and the group that the First Heretics focused on had slightly different colors than the rest of the Word Bearers, didn't they? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 First things first merry merry ladies and gents. Cool pic but then we knew it would be anyways. Nice to see the fist with some "life" to them. Now I want to know if the art in painted or etched since the fist love to scrimshaw bone etched armour dose not seem that out there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 It's the cover for the HH Anthology out November called Shadows of Treachery. Blog on BL for new HH anthology Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodanshi Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I pieced together the advent calendar so I have it with no text at 3000×2205. Is it OK to link to it here, or would the forum rules forbid that as intruding on Black Library territory? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Nice to see the fist with some "life" to them. Erm.... I pieced together the advent calendar so I have it with no text at 3000×2205. Is it OK to link to it here, or would the forum rules forbid that as intruding on Black Library territory? PM me a link! Such an awesome picture for cover art. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Nice to see the fist with some "life" to them. Erm.... I pieced together the advent calendar so I have it with no text at 3000×2205. Is it OK to link to it here, or would the forum rules forbid that as intruding on Black Library territory? PM me a link! Such an awesome picture for cover art. Life as in heraldry and armour ornamentation. There not stone men after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Life as in heraldry and armour ornamentation. Aye its pretty cool - but i always suspected they would use ornamentation especially as they are so into scrimshaw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 To address the side discussion on Sigismund's armour, there has been some information posted that conflicts with the official sources I've seen. From Horus Rising pages 128-131 (skipping all of the irrelevant text) Loken stiffened as three figures descended the ironwork screw stair into the room from the gallery above. The first two were Astartes of the Imperial Fists, almost glowing in their yellow plate. The third was much larger. Another god. Rogal Dorn, primarch of the Imperial Fists, brother to Horus. ... The two Astartes who had escorted him down from the gallery came over to wait with the Mournival. They were well known to Abaddon, Torgaddon and Aximand, but Loken had only yet seen them indirectly aboard the flagship. Abaddon introduced them as Sigismund, First Captain of the Imperial Fists, resplendant in black and white heraldry, and Efried, Captain of the Third Company... So according to this passage, Sigismund's armour was yellow, with his heraldry (the shoulder pads and perhaps a few other decorations) in black and white. Perhaps there is some other official source which I haven't read that says that Sigismund wore black armour prior to becoming the Emperor's Champion during the Siege of Terra. If so, could someone please cite it here? A link to the cobbled-together image is fine, though I expect that Black Library will make the full image available very soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Perhaps there is some other official source which I haven't read that says that Sigismund wore black armour prior to becoming the Emperor's Champion during the Siege of Terra. If so, could someone please cite it here? Flight of the Esienstien - will quote when i find the page, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Perhaps there is some other official source which I haven't read that says that Sigismund wore black armour prior to becoming the Emperor's Champion during the Siege of Terra. If so, could someone please cite it here? Flight of the Esienstien - will quote when i find the page, lol. Says no such thing. It mentions the First Company wearing black-trimmed armour (and elsewhere mentions their armour as being yellow), which is quite a different thing to wearing actual black armour, I can see where someone might mistakenly read it as saying they wear black armour, but it doesn't actually say that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Perhaps there is some other official source which I haven't read that says that Sigismund wore black armour prior to becoming the Emperor's Champion during the Siege of Terra. If so, could someone please cite it here? Flight of the Esienstien - will quote when i find the page, lol. Says no such thing. It mentions the First Company wearing black-trimmed armour (and elsewhere mentions their armour as being yellow), which is quite a different thing to wearing actual black armour, I can see where someone might mistakenly read it as saying they wear black armour, but it doesn't actually say that. Ah yes so i does - i was convinced the book said Sigismund wore black armour, lol. I retract my statement. :D The Imperial Fist leading the charge could very well be Sigismund then. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennisBall Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 If it was Sigismund then there would be crosses which there do not appear to be. I think this is just some random sergeant or captain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karden00 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Merry Merry indeed to all I asked about the pic representing Dorn. Im satisfied that its not, but a little confused that it sparked so much discussion about Sigismund (who's geneseed isnt of Guilliman...Oh tell me Someone thinks that is funny :rolleyes: ) But does anyone have any insight about those ships in the background? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiad Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Could someone post an image of the complete picture, similar to how the Apologist and sponsra did a page ago? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 If it was Sigismund then there would be crosses which there do not appear to be. I think this is just some random sergeant or captain. You can't see his left pauldron, still a chance it could be him. All speculation though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Traben Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Could someone post an image of the complete picture, similar to how the Apologist and sponsra did a page ago? Here's a link to where you can download it http://www.blacklibrary.com/Blog/a-christmas-treat.html. The wallpaper comes in different sizes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sponsra Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Could someone post an image of the complete picture, similar to how the Apologist and sponsra did a page ago? And if you don´t want to download the wallpaper, here you go: http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t136/sponsra/BL_chistmas_calendar-9.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Great stuff mate ;) Thanks a million! And it has turned out to be a great book cover :D Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryphaus 101 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 That is an awesome cover. I love the ships in mid battle and... Wait, is that the Phalanx? I don't think leading the charge would be Sigismund (for one BL tend steer away from showing iconic characters except on a few occasions or with Primarchs, and two, I'm pretty sure Sigismund used a sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJORNin83 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 LOVE IT!!!! Cant wait to read about my beloved Imperial Fists. HATE having to wait almost a year though :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 That is an awesome cover. I love the ships in mid battle and... Wait, is that the Phalanx? I don't think leading the charge would be Sigismund (for one BL tend steer away from showing iconic characters except on a few occasions or with Primarchs, and two, I'm pretty sure Sigismund used a sword. Pretty sure this is the 3rd time of posting, but no its not the Phalanx because Dorn took it to Terra with him ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANCIENT FALOR Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Wow. thats awesome . Definately my favorirte cover so far. I wish the Signus Prime novel cover was as good. Love the combat caught in action. Really looking forward to reading this. Cant wait to read the boarding action scenes. Death and retribution to the traitors! For Dorn and the Emperor!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243341-on-the-first-day-of-christmas/page/6/#findComment-2951973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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