Snejk Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 How does the traitors and renegades pay for their stuff? I can't imagine the Dark Mechanicus just giving away free Defilers, Rhinos, Hell Blades and what not. So how do they operate economicaly? By strict communist five year plans dictated by whoever controlls a dark Forge World or by more liberal market economical rules? And how do they get paid by their customers? Imperial credits that are of little or no use, slaves that work themselves to death, raw materials, blue prints for new stuff? What does the Dark Mechanicus want for their services, because i can't imagine them doing it just for the fun of building new and awesome killing machines, what's on their agenda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I'm sure there would be some variation based on the individual(s) in charge of any given forge world or equivalent but the standard payments would be: slaves* base raw materials precious metals & gems advanced equipment & technology new schematics & designs protection assistance in some part of a plan of theirs gaining favor with a faction "you owe me one" Credits and other monetary payments could easily be justified as well, especially if they function as a black market for both the Imperium and the forces of Chaos as well as neutral factions like rogue traders or mercenary groups. From a daemonic standpoint, the oaths sworn by daemons who are bound into soulgrinder bodies gives you more insight into what is of value in the warp. *Edited per Excessus' request. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Don't forget one of the most important commodities in the eye: SLAVES! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 slave materials artefacts are traded for stuff legions/renegades need . they probably could also do what forge wants them to . lets say Perturbo wants some huge demon engines , he pays in that he "gives" the forge control over a grand company of IW for some time [maybe for ever depands how big the company is and how many engines we are speaking about here] . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Don't forget one of the most important commodities in the eye: SLAVES! :tu: Hence the reason it was the first thing listed on my list. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Hence the reason it was the first thing listed on my list. :D Next time, put it in bold so i can see it! :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangneur Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I'm sure there would be some variation based on the individual(s) in charge of any given forge world or equivalent but the standard payments would be:slaves* base raw materials precious metals & gems advanced equipment & technology new schematics & designs protection assistance in some part of a plan of theirs gaining favor with a faction "you owe me one" Credits and other monetary payments could easily be justified as well, especially if they function as a black market for both the Imperium and the forces of Chaos as well as neutral factions like rogue traders or mercenary groups. From a daemonic standpoint, the oaths sworn by daemons who are bound into soulgrinder bodies gives you more insight into what is of value in the warp. *Edited per Excessus' request. :D A pretty good list, but I'd also add in "protection" (different than protection), and services, although marines have one service, and if comes in the form of someone being turned into Targo's executive powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 i imagine raw material is pretty high on the dark mechanicus "wanted" list, since most of the background i've read suggest that "natural" resources is pretty unstable, and can in some cases only work or be used inside the eye/maelstrom, such as ore from a daemon world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Don't forget renegade/chaos forces are known to raid places. That's partly how they get a hold of resources. Like slaves. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snejk Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 So slaves is a commonly used currency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 So slaves is a commonly used currency? It would be if you owned a ship. Manpower is quite necessary for 40k space-faring vessels for a, ahem, variety of reasons. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 There is a swift mention in the Warriors of Chaos book regarding Chaos Dwarfs and their creations and style of barter that I think fits nicely in the 40k verse if you change "Nords" with "Chaos Marines", "Chaos Dwarfs" with "Dark Mechanicus" and "Sorcerer" with "Psyker". "These artifacts of war they[Chaos Dwarfs] barter and trade with the Northern tribes in exchange for gold, slaves and more esoteric treasure - folklore has it that the fabled Crimson Armor of Dargan was traded for nothing more than a pickled Bloodletter's head and a hempen sack of Sorcerer's bones." TDA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 From some of the Black Library books, we see that some warbands still have their 'in house' tech adepts who are practically members of the warband. They seem to serve the Legions in return for direct access to artifacts and knowledge. Some are probably still carrying out their pre-heresy oaths of service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Isnt oblits part of the dark mechanicum? They roam around renting out their services for trinkets and tech... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Don't forget one of the most important commodities in the eye: SLAVES! :down: Also DIRTY GREAT BIG WHIPS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 slaves* *Edited per Excessus' request. :D You make me blush! :down: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The.Latros.Sacrum Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 The Word Bearers have their very own forgeworld within the Mealstrom. The.Latros.Sacrum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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