Blood Spartan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 So I have a 1500 point game vs Necrons that is objective bassed. What kind of units should I bring? I have to take the Sanuinor a tac squad and an assault squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Eh, anything that can get you into combat quickly. Put JPs on the assault squad and either Vanguard or Sang Guard to handle the more combat oriented necrons (ie: Wraiths). And bring your choice of anti-armor for Necron vehicles Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2943869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlandMoonGuy Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Do you consider yourself a, "fluffy" player? If so just bring a standard issue Baalite historical guide to diplomacy. Forget fighting each other and jointly beat up on the, "game store kid" who showed up with his unpainted, caked glue and mold line Nid army. A proven Dante strategy since 955.M41. Just my .02¢, Cheers, -OMG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2943924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Angel Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 So I have a 1500 point game vs Necrons that is objective bassed. What kind of units should I bring? I have to take the Sanuinor a tac squad and an assault squad. If he is taking deathmarks and or wraiths Keep as many objectives as possible out of his deployment zone so he cant reserve and come on from his edge. Most of his stuff will fold to CC but beware wraiths they probably have initiative lowering buffs that will lower your iniative to 1 with models in B2B You can take Wraiths out with your CC guys but you need stormshields to the front of the squad to take the lowered initiative and face the rending hits you will get from them, they will hang around if you are not carefull having an annoying 3+ invun, models not in B2B will still strike at normal initiative. If the deathmarks have not come down keep your deepstriking units paired and supporting each other if a deathmark squad drops on you and marks a unit it will be hit on 2's from shooting and in CC hence the countercharge must come from an unmarked unit to clean them out quickly. Plenty of melta to drop their barges and such, feel no pain is awesome. I had a melta honour guard take 1500 points worth of shooting and still stand with 3 models left. Be careful with your multiwound models around scarabs they can drop armour off models however the sanguinor charging with another unit inside his +1 attack bubble will sort them out as he hits at S6 on the charge so each hit is a whole 4 model base gone same for powerfists. A librarian rolling his force weapon is instant death for scarab bases too. Fearless kills the last survivors. Everything else you have not melta'd just beat it to death in assault Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2943980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Baal predator will rip through warriors. Generally, get into CC with them asap, and you will be onto a winner. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2944144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I forgot about scarabs, but your tact squad should be able to whittle them down. (Or at least keep the numbers down if your opponent runs tomb spiders) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2944225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Necron vehicles don't like Meltaguns. Necrons as a whole don't like close combat. Scarabs, Lychguard, and a few other units can do decently, but they all have some significant weaknesses and a full ASM squad charging pretty much any Necron unit should take it apart. Necrons are very resilient and have good shooting, but most of it won't punch through FNP. Jumpers and other foot-based lists will likely do better than mechanized against them, since they negate the usefulness of their S7 guns and Gauss ability. At the end of the day, Necrons will feel rather like Tau: strong shooting, tough tanks, the melee ability of a dead rat. They may be able to tank through a couple rounds of CC based on good Ld, but sooner or later they'll fail a check and die. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2944229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolythic Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Do you need anything else besides and sanguinor and those two squads? The Necrons are garbage. Honestly, you just need standard load out assault squads and sang priests. deep strike with meltas to pop the vehicles, and then assault the warriors. you could probs just sit on a couple objectives the whole game and win. If you want to table him in a couple turns bring a storm raven with a furioso and DC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2944287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzkrieg861 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I've played the new necrons three times now... The We'll Be Back is annoying but I believe doesn't work if you sweeping advance them. Mech does just fine against them, don't listen to that advice. I ran 2 games with a full mech army and 1 game with jumpers. The two games with mech I controlled the game fairly easily. The game I took jumpers I was nearly tabled. Take that for what it is. Baal Preds and Assault Cannons are great against them. Once you get into combat you will destroy them. Position yourself so that only a few get in on your assault so you don't break them during your assault phase. When you win combat and consolidate in you should be able to torch them during their assault phase to keep you safe from any fire they have left to shoot at you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2944346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Spartan Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 How do you think flame storm Baal with hvy bolters would fare? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2944575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzkrieg861 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Dump the heavy bolters. You'll never be able to fire all weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2944684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Angel Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Scarabs are weak in combat they can be tarpitted easily and are no threat to single wound models, scarabs like chewing on armour but power fists and force weapons like chewing on scarabs, and are better at it. Anything that hits S6 or higher is perfect and the key to getting rid of them. S6 attacks turn a 4 wound 5+ sv model into a single wound model with WS2 and T3. Scarabs get to choose the combat because of their charge range so make it so they eventually have to come to you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2945137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp Angel Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Assault cannons will rip through just about anything Necron and instagib multiwound scarab bases. Assaulting Necrons with just about anything in a Marine list is a recipe for success and severely hampers their ability to shoot back. Watch out for tricks with their character that creates difficult terrain to start the game and seizes the initiative on a 4+. And keep in mind that all you need to do in an objective based game is kill all his troops and control ONE objective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2945148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corbulo Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Do you consider yourself a, "fluffy" player? If so just bring a standard issue Baalite historical guide to diplomacy. Forget fighting each other and jointly beat up on the, "game store kid" who showed up with his unpainted, caked glue and mold line Nid army. A proven Dante strategy since 955.M41. Just my .02¢, Cheers, -OMG Wow OMG you made me laugh. That is so funny because it's true. Keep it coming!!! Corb Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2945159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Do you consider yourself a, "fluffy" player? If so just bring a standard issue Baalite historical guide to diplomacy. Forget fighting each other and jointly beat up on the, "game store kid" who showed up with his unpainted, caked glue and mold line Nid army. A proven Dante strategy since 955.M41. Just my .02¢, Cheers, -OMG Wow OMG you made me laugh. That is so funny because it's true. Keep it coming!!! Corb I was going to suggest you team up rather than fight... ...but now I won't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2945186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Rawl Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Why you fighting Necrons for? I thought the Blood Angels and Necrons were BFFs... It was bound to be said eventually lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2945440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezkh Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Assault Marines. Sanguinor. Priests. All you really need. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2946071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbringer Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Take some Sanguinary Guard They'll be good too AP4 Bolters :D and Assault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2946164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlandMoonGuy Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Wow OMG you made me laugh. That is so funny because it's true. Keep it coming!!! Corb :D We do play this game for fun don't we? Cheers Corb, -OMG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2946177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corbulo Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 That's right, yes we do. Even if I get the beat down on a bi-weekly basis from Prot and the odd time from Gaganius it's always a good time. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2947514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp Angel Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I spent my first 20 years of playing 40k getting beat down more often than doing the beat down. Then I figured it out and don't lose much anymore. I've always had fun playing, regardless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2947892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Do you consider yourself a, "fluffy" player? If so just bring a standard issue Baalite historical guide to diplomacy. Forget fighting each other and jointly beat up on the, "game store kid" who showed up with his unpainted, caked glue and mold line Nid army. A proven Dante strategy since 955.M41. Just my .02¢, Cheers, -OMG dang beaten to it :( having played them twice (not terrible experience i know) i can tell you the evaporate when exposed to combat.... baring wraiths, spyders and perhaps the new characters with the 4++ shields, havent faced those yet... baal predator and vindicator proved to be very effective. as did a furioso with extra armour and lawn mowers...er....blood talons ;) priests also make necrons cringe just like any other army :D bring them and laugh while your shrugging of the most of the hurt while your closing! happy hunting :confused: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2947953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drial87 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I have made a post on how Angels rip Necrons a new one on my blog, check it out =) http://warhammerwithzail.blogspot.com/2011...n-doa-list.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243487-blood-angels-vs-necrons-what-to-bring/#findComment-2948275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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