Dosjetka Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Hello all! Firstly, I'm not too sure if this should go here, so mods, please move if need be. Cheers <_< Secondly, I'm starting to collect information about Rogal Dorn and the most logical place to start is Inwit, his "birth-world". All I know about this planet is from Lexicanum (ie. he spent some time there. He lived among the planet's ice-castes, was maybe even the warlord of the whole Inwit system. Built the Phalanx there. Official recruiting world of the Imperial Fists) and so I'm looking to see if there's any other information about Inwit that might be out there. Any help is appreciated! :) Cheers, Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilicate Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Dorn was an Eskimo? That seems like it may have been ret-conned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2945747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eetion Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Actually they found Dorn there on the phalanx. It doesn't nessacerily mean that its his homeworld. Could be from anywhere really? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2945753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atin Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 no he is, source: lighting tower part 2, starting 3.34 till midway chapter 3 . info from lighting tower: he has a fur edged rope from his "father" during the fortification of the palace.. which he had since his adolescence on inwit. they raised him ( the inwit) his "grand father" was patriarch. and he was the system warlord, leader of the house of Dorn.. and the inwit called him emperor till the real emperor showed up.. he greeted the emperor on-board phalanx, "one ship against thousands but what a ship, a fortress. his father had been impressed. " thats all the info from the lighting tower.. cheers atin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2945787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 @ Eetion no actually he is from Inwit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2945788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eetion Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Ah well I stand corrected. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2945811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leofric Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I believe that before The Lightning Tower the only reference was simply 'the ice-hives of Inwit' from the Imperial Fists IA Neither of the Imperial Fist novels (Space Marine and Sons of Dorn) really mention it as none of the protaganists hail from there either Although it must have been a technologically adept society: they were able to either build the Phalanx (or recover it and get it working again) for Dorn to go meet his Daddy on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2946293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 So, I take it that there is no other official stuff about Inwit, bar what's on Lexicanum. Hm.. Well, I guess there's more room for me to invent then ;) Just another quick question: what human civilization do you see Inwit people being based on? Someone mentioned Eskimo's, but I tend to disagree as the only thing they do is hunt and survive (in most cases). Any ideas? Cheers, Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2946665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I'd consider them to look quasi-Imperial with eskimo touches. Perhaps with a pinch of techno-barbarian thrown in for good measure. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2946674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I'd have a look and see if you can find the Index Astartes article on the Imperial Fists (WD: 259 according to Lexicanum). I don't have it myself, but all the others I do have given an excellent account of the Primarches' homeworlds. Even if it's no more than what's on Lexicanum then it'll probably give a better phrasing and feeling of the world. Plus, you generally get some good artwork and photos of models with the articles. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2946749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubermensch Commander Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 There is slim information on Inwit as it plays virtually no part in shaping the identity of the Imperial Fists. None of their qualities, other than perhaps bone scrimshawing which has largely been left by the wayside, are accredited to the planets culture, unlike virtually all the other founding Legions. It was an ice-hive world, there was the Phalanx somewhere nearby, and then it never features again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2947301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain ChonkE Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Well we can gather a few relevant pieces of information but as Ubermensch says, it really has no hand in the shaping of the Chapter as recruitment continued on from Terra. The info given is relevant to Rogal Dorn and his personal characteristics more than the legion. 1: Feudal/Caste world: Dorn's 'grandfather' was Patriarch of a Clan, mentioned to be solar or extra-solar in relation to his planet. 2: Inwit described as an underground hive-world. I remember some blurb about cities in large underground carverns. 3: Phalanx's existence points to the ability to have Space travel. Dorn's arrival shows ability to have navigators or tech/magick to circumvent navigators. 4: Dorn loved his Grandda' alot and would keep his fur-lined cloak as a kind of Linus blanket for his bed. Dorn is known to be a great siegemaster and defender. Being the warchief (and grandson) of a interstellar pocket empire gives you practice. Having grown up in a world of caverns and urban environments it would only make sense that Dorn would become an expert in siegecraft as well as erecting defensive structures. Learning to be victorious in an unstable and changing warfare environment that is highly sensitive to heat, vibration, weight would make one's actions decisive yet flexible. Commanders used to such environs might be quick to make rash yet decisive actions that might seem suicidal yet carry the day. Ambush occurs? ATTACK! Dorn's ability to not only use technology to successfully rule his kingdom but also to seek out the pressing genetic memory in his every cell and being to find his true father is very impressive. This also speaks to Dorn's ability to manage a kingdom (especially a highly advanced with tech on par to the Imperium/Ad Mech) as he not only organized the effort but also had the power base to make such an undertaking in the first place. This speaks to a kingdom of great stability that the ruler can just jump in their... powered Moon-station (Phalanx)... and fly off for an unknown period to go seek out some feeling in Dorn's soul. "Insert appropriate Star Wars quotation here." Then he manages to find dear old Da' and who knows what kind of silly adventures our favorite Primarch ( :confused: ) got into in between! Dorn is a flagellant. Dorn is a perfectionist. Dorn (and his genesons) is knightly. Dorn is introspective and wrathful. Dorn loved dear ol' grandda. Gramps seemed to do right by Rogal and raised him correctly, like Connor and Robby G (very similar upbringings I would think, also would explain closeness) and Rogal loved his granddad. Feudal world, feudal title; Patriarch seems much more reminiscent of a Trading or Mercantile House title and might explain the Navigator thing. Perhaps the world was based on some sort of Interplanetary trade system? In any case the feudal nature of the titles and Dorn's knightly nature suggest a feudal society with frequent enough conflict to make into a warlord/ruler skilled and powerful enough to run a small space empire but civilized/humanist and technologically advanced enough to facilitate the existence of the Phalanx as well as account for Dorn's egalitarian nature and understanding of advanced technology. As for Dorn's blanket? It shows he is one of the few Primarch's that loves something that is not a god, not a altruistic ideal or goal, lofty code of ethic or conduct, not a an emotion, the Emperor or even the Primarch himself; Dorn shows love and respect for his mortal father and is one of the few Primarchs to show this human emotion for something outside the Emperor and Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2949115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 Thank you for your reply Chaplain :jaw: Really well explained and it makes me understand more about Papa Dorn ;) Cheers, Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2949160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Well... *snip*...Legion. Interesting insight there, Chaplain ChonkE. That must have taken ages. :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2949230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I'd have a look and see if you can find the Index Astartes article on the Imperial Fists (WD: 259 according to Lexicanum). I don't have it myself, but all the others I do have given an excellent account of the Primarches' homeworlds. Even if it's no more than what's on Lexicanum then it'll probably give a better phrasing and feeling of the world. Plus, you generally get some good artwork and photos of models with the articles. :tu: Sadly not. The Imperial Fist IA article completely ignores Dorns previous life, the earliest information it gives is literally "and then Dorn turned up next to the Imperial Fleet near Inwit, in Phalanx". It mentions nothing whatsoever about his earlier life, only mentioning Inwit. As for what to base them on, I really have to second the Eskimo touches, as their homeworld is called Inwit (Inuit). It's a none-too-subtle joke that commonly gets missed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243606-inwit/#findComment-2949289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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