ShasVa Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I was curious as to whether multi-primed models (by definition, models who have had multiple primers used on specific parts) would be accepted more than a model just primed in one colour? An example of a multi-primed model would be this Space Wolf. Take note of the Step 1 picture, which is the focus of my question. Chances are I may never play in official GW tournies of any kind - which I know to be strict on this subject, but just so they look alright for friendly games with mates would be enough. My painting enthusiasm goes up and down - I always found it somewhat laborious, and I find myself constantly questioning just about every scheme I do. It happened with the Tau, and it is happening with the DIY Marines chapter. I thought maybe this multi-prime would be a nice compromise that could (maybe and hopefully) finally settle me down.;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I don't see why anyone would care that different parts of the marine were primed different colors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2947163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbringer Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I'f im honest i would prefer if that was a minimum standard i would say that looking at a table of models primed to that standard would look a hell of a lot better than just bare grey. I'm doing something similar currently using the Dragon Red Spray for my blood angels and plan on doing all my tanks in red asap and then at least the table has coloured tanks to differentiate it from any other space marine tank I'm the same as you with painting love sometimes i really enjoy painting other times i will do anything but. Added the Image Also ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2947170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 There's nothing wrong with using different primers on different parts of a miniature, especially if you're doing it to help with painting a given piece. The Red and Yellow shoulder pads are a good example, being primed differently to make them easier to paint. Where you might get some frowns is if you try to do it as the only step to get the 3 colour minimum for a fielding army. Note, that even though they use four primers, the example still goes in and adds details with logical colours as the final step. In casual games I can't seeing it being an issue either way. But in a more competitive venue someone might take issue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2947182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I'll be honest, I think it's an awesome way to get a tabletop quality army ready, there is only one other step I'd take (besides basing) would be to wash everything, maybe even just the head, as it would benifit most. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2947235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Any method by which you put multicolored models on the baord is a good one. It's vastly superior to flat black or plastic grey armies any day of the week. Paitning isn't everyone's cup o' tea, and if this method helps you field a force, by all means use it! You won't win any awards without a lot of additional work, but your opponents will certainly appreciate the effort you put in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2947244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbabyjesus Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I personally have no problem with this, I'll quite regularly prime different parts of models different colours and glue them together afterwards! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2947525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShasVa Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Thanks for the replies everyone. Space Wolves aren't the force I'm going with (I'm doing a successor to the Ultramarines, a DIY chapter), but their Army Painter Gallery picture was the best example I found. Washing I wouldn't have a problem doing (even got myself a GW Wash brush). Likewise with basing, as I've got this Tamiya textured "paint" stuff that simulates pavement and gravel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2947580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodanshi Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I actually think that looks rather brilliant. I think I may invest in some of those techniques to help me through my periods of disliking the painting side of things (fortunately doesn’t come around too often!). Added the Image Also :lol: You forgot page 2 ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2948019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbringer Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Agree if i was ever to do space wolves i certainly would do it this was to get a table top level. I would do all troops like that as i prefer to spend more time on the elites hq's etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2948595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShasVa Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 Got an idea for the multi-priming. This example will use a regular Tactical Squad marine: - prime the entire body with Army Painter "Crystal Blue" - prime the Boltgun with Army Painter "Platemail" That is about it. EDIT: The idea behind my DIY chapter's scheme can be summed up as "Blue Blood Angels". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2949883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Not only is this an acceptable way of doing things, but the army painter tutorial's end result, in my opinion, is a great tabletop quality paintjob, better than what I often see fielded, so it's something I would encourage for people who lack the time or skills to do better otherwise. I also checked out their other tutorials. Quite good stuff. Impressed. More people should actually use these methods. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2950040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Looks cool, Id have no problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2955267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 To me that meets the 3 colour minimum, if that were my army I would dip them to be 100% sure. Not sure about GW tournies but every other tournament I have been to requires squad markings so just do that and you are golden. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2955312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShasVa Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 As I've said the chances of me entering an official GW tourny are very slim. I'd just be playing friendly games with my mates who also play 40K. I am thinking now that I should go ahead with this idea, maybe. Remember the shots of the Space Wolves (primed but not detailed)? THAT is what I'm aiming for. EDIT:...that, or just spray them one colour and leave it at that (the "buy, build, prime" plan). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2960100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributis Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Whilst multi-primed or single primed models look better than raw plastic I think it would be worth, however slowly, trying to get the whole army painted with a bit more detail. I think you'd appreciate it more once you saw it on the tabletop. Even if it's just weapons and some squad markings I think you'll be surprised how much of a difference it will make to the overall scene. Small steps are the key. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2960658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShasVa Posted January 7, 2012 Author Share Posted January 7, 2012 Whilst multi-primed or single primed models look better than raw plastic I think it would be worth, however slowly, trying to get the whole army painted with a bit more detail. I think you'd appreciate it more once you saw it on the tabletop. Even if it's just weapons and some squad markings I think you'll be surprised how much of a difference it will make to the overall scene. Small steps are the key. As far as squad/company markings go, I would still paint those on. Anything to help identify who belongs to what. B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2960781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Validar Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 painted models are always better than unpainted models :) If you use primer, airbrush or whatever to achieve it easily, they're still way above the unpainted guys :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2962344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShasVa Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Good to know. Moving ahead with my buy-build-spray plan. Now...is it worth it to collect an entire chapter, or is it pointless if you do not often play Apocalypse games? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2963929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 If you have the money to spend, the will to paint and the space to display, then hells yes!!! It is a lofty goal which few achieve. Lord Castelan Mik's thread has him building ALOT of Ultras, might be worth a look. Personaly, I'd assemble and paint a chapter one company at a time. Cheers and good luck, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2963966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennisBall Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Quite toylike but I like the style. Better than gray as others have said. If you're going to do tons of minis and display then unit markings are a good thing to add. Grotsmasha, your link to the army doesn't work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2966857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShasVa Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 The topic is actually null and void now. I don't see myself continuing with the hobby for the purposes of collecting an army and playing the game. What I will be doing however, is buying single models - one at a time, and painting them up to a nice standard. Then, they'll either be kept and admired, or sold to whomever wants to buy them from me. That is my new goal now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2966916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennisBall Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 That is my new goal now. To infinity and beyond! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2967021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShasVa Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 I've been thinking that my ambitions for the game were far too big and financially nigh-impossible. Hence why I have failed to keep up with previous projects. A good friend of mine yesterday expressed the same opinion - that my ambition to collect the entire Ultramarines chapter would not be a good idea. I was just wondering: how do you reduce such ambition to something more manageable?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2972696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Perhaps start at a Company level? Captain, Chaplain, Librarian, Apothecary, Command Sqd, 6 Tactical, 2 Assault, 2 Devastators. Then add in vehicles you like, a LR for the Command Sqd, a couple of Preds and a vindi or whirlwind. Then have either droppods or rhinos for each Tac/Dev squad. Maybe throw in some scouts, some on foot some in a storm. Then once this Company is done, choose another, like a bike mounted Sixth, or the Veteran First. If you find yourself getting bored or "over" Ultra Blue, you could make you're army a crusade and paint your main force (3 Companies) in Ultra colours, then the left over companies can be from a different Ultra successors, allowing you to mix up your paint scheme while remaining Ultra. Cheers, Jono EDIT: As an after thought you could try writing up army lists to represent the different Companies, then collect those Lists to kick off each company. A couple of examples: Codex SW/DA for a Logan/Deathwing to rep TDA Ultra 1st comp, Codex:SM for a Kantor Sterngaurd list to cover the rest of the first and a Korsarro mounted army for the Sixth etc, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243747-acceptance-of-multi-primed-models/#findComment-2972711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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