recon0321 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 OK this is pretty varied but i wanted to get an idea of what kind of armor suits each legion might have most access too and or dreads rhinos predators that sort of thing.. DARK ANGELS i would like to add a few contemptor pattern dreads considering they are the oldest legion and figured they might have a few lying around...maybe a rhino a two but mainly a land raider with terminators in it?? i think this part of the project with be the easiest all i really need are some heresy weapons and get the upgrade sprue and and use some Mk III IV and VI heads? if i remember correctly ALL the Dark Angels wore robes over their armor so i just need bits to for back packs and shoulders etc... Raven Guard Post Isstvan LOTS of MK V and MK VI and some IV wiith some assault troops...and a few rhinos Imperial Fists considering they are garrisoning terra i would think the marines would be in MK III IV and some VI with predators Terminators and lots of heavy weapons... anything i seemed to miss??? anyone know where i can get Forge world Bitz?? Comments are welcome and much needed this is going to be a Lonnng project....(sometimes i hate Black library for the ideas they put in my head).. :ph34r: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243977-heresy-era-project/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdannan Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Sounds like a great project! I can help out with the Imperial Fists, as I have been researching them for my own Heresy era army. MK III, IV and VI are accurate for the Fists. Since Sigismund and the veteran companies were the only ones that accompanied Dorn to Terra after Flight of the Eisenstein they were the only ones present during the Imperial Fist attack/reclamation of Mars in Mechanicum. As such it can be assumed that the veteran companies would be the only ones with access to the new MK IV and MK VI was in development and used during the Siege. The rest of the Fists fleet were stuck in the Phall system, and only arrived just before the rest of the Traitor forces. So they would mainly be equipped with III, then over time with IV, V and VI as the Siege wore on. I plan on doing Veteran's and the like in MK IV and VI suits while the line troopers still in the MK III suits. But really any and all a valid. Hope that helps! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243977-heresy-era-project/#findComment-2949748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 If you are going to try Raven Guard just remember that they only had access to the older Mk II and Mk III suits of armour post Istvaan V as they lacked the resources to re-equip at the time. They also relied heavily on guerrilla warfare at the time due to their lack of numbers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243977-heresy-era-project/#findComment-2950895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon0321 Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 After reading deliverance lost they were the 1st legion to be equiped with MK VI They equipped there raptors Co with those suits Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243977-heresy-era-project/#findComment-2950919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 That must be a retcon then, in the original Index Astartes article they only had older marks of armour which was supposed to be why in modern times they have so many older types of armour. If that is the case then I'd go with the Mk II and Mk III for regular troops with the Mk VI being used for the first company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243977-heresy-era-project/#findComment-2950943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 in the original Index Astartes article they only had older marks of armour which was supposed to be why in modern times they have so many older types of armour. All of the marines in the IA article art had MkVI armour, so I always chalked that bit of the text up to the author trying to justify their favouritism for MkVI and epically failing due to knowing nothing about the actual armour fluff. Logically it doesn't make sense for the dropsite massacre to have had much effect on the output of the Raven Guard's workshops back on Deliverance, workshops geared up to produce enough equipment for an entire Legion ~ having to instead re-equip a force a tenth (or less) that size should have been considerably quicker. (the chapters modern fondness for MkVI being easily covered by invoking the WD129 fluff that stated many chapters felt it wasn't worth 'upgrading' to MkVI) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243977-heresy-era-project/#findComment-2951447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haranin Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 What armor would be appropriate for the Dark Angels? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243977-heresy-era-project/#findComment-2951456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 OK this is pretty varied but i wanted to get an idea of what kind of armor suits each legion might have most access too and or dreads rhinos predators that sort of thing.. DARK ANGELS i would like to add a few contemptor pattern dreads considering they are the oldest legion and figured they might have a few lying around...maybe a rhino a two but mainly a land raider with terminators in it?? i think this part of the project with be the easiest all i really need are some heresy weapons and get the upgrade sprue and and use some Mk III IV and VI heads? if i remember correctly ALL the Dark Angels wore robes over their armor so i just need bits to for back packs and shoulders etc... Good thinking about the Contemtors ( check out my Consecrators link in my signature if you wanna see how they look in black B)). Regarding the armour types, I'd guess you can justify everything with the DAs... Mk4s would have been aplenty as DAs were generally well stocked with high quality stuff. I also recommend you get all the correct marks not just the helmets for two reasons: 1) as I said earlier the DAs were generally well stocked so cannibalization of armour should be kept to a minimum and 2) the Aquila! This actually applies for all the Legions (ex Emperor's Children). Some of the robed DAs have the Aquila visible. So careful there. Also, regarding the robes, it is completely up to you. Every one could potentially wear them (still can) that does not mean they did. In your force, should you so decide, it could be none! Perfectly legit too! What armor would be appropriate for the Dark Angels? As I said above the Mk4 would be fitting, but with DAs, you can justify everything. I guess they probably would have disposed the really old types by the time of the Heresy, so Mk2 maybe less appropriate. But given the personal relation a marine has with his armor, again anything goes... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243977-heresy-era-project/#findComment-2951526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 the Aquila! This actually applies for all the Legions (ex Emperor's Children). Some of the robed DAs have the Aquila visible. So careful there. None of the robed torso's have the Aquila (Eagle): one has a winged sword the other has the Imperialis, of which Insignium Astartes & Codex: Ultramarines state: "The winged skull badge that is the Imperialis has its origin in the great Heresy of Horus. It was adopted as the campaign badge of the loyal Chapters during the Imperium-wide conflict that was the heresy. Since then it has become the honour of righteous victory." the issue with both is that they are MkVII/VIII chestplates with MkVII/VIII cabling ~ tho you can easily cover that up with a blob of greenstuff and say its a MkIII. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243977-heresy-era-project/#findComment-2951646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 None of the robed torso's have the Aquila (Eagle): one has a winged sword the other has the Imperialis, of which Insignium Astartes & Codex: Ultramarines state: "The winged skull badge that is the Imperialis has its origin in the great Heresy of Horus. That is actually correct! My bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/243977-heresy-era-project/#findComment-2951699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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