hendrik Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Touche, I stand corrected. nothing touche whelp;) just pointing out the things you missed in all your eagerness to read the book! i'd say you need to read it once more, just to make sure you missed nothing else! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2954297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulf Vengis Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Touche, I stand corrected. nothing touche whelp;) just pointing out the things you missed in all your eagerness to read the book! i'd say you need to read it once more, just to make sure you missed nothing else! :) Agreed, I do indeed want to reread the Ragnar series again but Ive gotta finish my current book endeavour... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2954302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilb Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 If this has already been posted my apologies http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/ss166/Brodasava/BranRedmaw.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2954745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I will certainly buy one Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2954766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilb Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Yeah exactly what I thought, this is supposed to be a multi part model with the option of doing the sane bran version or the slightly less sane wulfen version Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2954778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 can we link(maybe as part of the faq) or sticky this topic there are a lot of great quotes and tales. Valerian's post makes it worthwhile alone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2954999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 place the quotes in the " understanding the curse of the wulfen topic", then make a librarium article out of it :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2955030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 place the quotes in the " understanding the curse of the wulfen topic", then make a librarium article out of it :) What a brilliant idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2955230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I've drawn up a basic list in the Space Wolves list part of the forum, it's probably not the best use of the idea but I've felt he really does make Fen Wolves amusingly good. With a 4+ inval save granted by the Rune Priest and him to make a very hard to kill bubble wrap, that in turn provides cover to the Rhinos behind it. They seem the best foot sloggers since the moment he unattaches they are really mobile, though not very threatening. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2955340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I've drawn up a basic list in the Space Wolves list part of the forum, it's probably not the best use of the idea but I've felt he really does make Fen Wolves amusingly good. With a 4+ inval save granted by the Rune Priest and him to make a very hard to kill bubble wrap, that in turn provides cover to the Rhinos behind it. They seem the best foot sloggers since the moment he unattaches they are really mobile, though not very threatening. That is a cunning idea I will have to look at the list Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2956128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarvald the Troll-faced Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I actually won a game with Bran Redmaw recently and specifically tested it against one of the more problematic armies - Dark Eldar Venom, Sliscus, Saronyx spam with Beast Masters, etc. List was very unorthodox. Bran Redmaw, leading a pack of 15 Fenrisian Wolves (one of which a Cyberwolf) 10 Grey Hunters with goodies, x2 meltas, Wolf Guard in TDA armour with a Cyclone Missile Launcher and a Chainfist 10 Grey Hunters with goodies, x2 meltas - IN A DROP POD 8 Grey Hunters with goodies, x1 melta, Wolf Guard with combi-melta/power fist, Rune Priest with Murderous Hurricane, Living Lightning and Chooser of the Slain - IN A DROP POD 10 Swiftclaw Bikers with a flamer and a power fist, with a Wolf Priest on a Bike with a melta bomb and a combi-melta x2 5-man Wolf Scout squads with melta bombs, melta and a Wolf Guard with combi-melta/power fist x2 Long Fangs Packs with 5 missile launchers List was 2,000 points. Lots of outflanking shenanigans. My entire army was able to support itself at all times. Drop Pods landed where help was needed, Scouts went after vehicles and were a major distraction. Bikes got a first turn charge after dangerous terrain rolls and absorbing some Venom fire and two templates from the Razorwing. They killed the Hellions plus Baron, which was nice. Until the end of the game they were able to use their speed to their advantage and helped my Grey Hunters by assaulting and shooting their twin-linked bolters. They also assaulted and killed a Beast Squad by themselves. Game was objectives and I did my best to think ahead of time and when I was setting up objectives I put a lot of them around the edges and on the sides, putting almost nothing in the middle (I really wasn't going to need the cover saves against his poison weapons, had no vehicles, just needed high ground for the Long Fangs - also meant no cover for his vehicles). Objectives were set 12'' diagonally from the corners so that they were close for my outflanking shenanigans. One was in the middle, away from cover. This is the opposite of what you want to do with Space Wolves usually, as you really want to be in the middle to support your army, but with Bran you have so many tactical options due to outflanking and drop-podding that you can just hide in the corners, ambush and claim the objectives there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2956610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoll Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 sounds interesting will prob be picking him up on release then. Grats on ur win Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2956794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Very nice job! Good to see you have had hands on experience with him already from a radically different perspective, sounds like I will need to take a few nots from your book. ^^ Sadly I don't even have the material to begin this, I have goblin wolves I could kitbash, but beyond that, too many hunters. Heh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2956894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I was reading through IA11 and found this revelation in to the apocalpse rules at the back. Space wolves that have succumbed to the wulfen are shunned by most of the Chapter, But Bran Redmaw's Great company is unique, habouring a few of these Warriors within their ranks and making good use of these savage shock troops in battle. The wulfen within their ranks is a grim secret of Redmaws Company. Known only to Logan Grimnar and his closest advisors(but in truth suspected by many others). The day may come when they must be purged from the Chapters ranks, but whilst Bran and his tainted brothers remain loyal in control of their affliction they are tolerated by the great wolf. OMG Wulfen back in the SW's not marks but True Wulfen. What is Logan doing allowing wulfen back in the Chapter? Has the contact with 13th company led to this? Can we get away with it with church and Inquistion keeping a careful eye on it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2960147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Well they were fine to have around when Russ was in charge. so who is the Great Wolf to argue ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2960156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Well they were fine to have around when Russ was in charge. so who is the Great Wolf to argue ;) ;) lol The Inquistion seem to be taking a different view. about the return of the wulfen to the ranks of the SW's Only serves to court the attention of the inquistion and the Ecclesiarchy are paying to the great company. but its proven record combating the enemies of mankind has forced the Inquistion to so far stay it hand and The Space wolves Chapter ignores all demands to account for these allegations Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2960184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I have to ask, has anybody tried him yet? I am standing on a crossroad with 2 drop pod armies. One use Brand the redmaw, the other use a rune priest on swiftclaw bikers. My local playing arie has rules that behind enemy lines is lost when an IC joins the unit, so that means deploying Bran with 10 to 15 fenrisian wolves. Would this seem alright? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2977632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 If this has already been posted my apologies http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/ss166/Brodasava/BranRedmaw.jpg Nice Model! Is that supposed to be an Axe or a Hammer? It looks a bit blunt to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2977669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoll Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I have to ask, has anybody tried him yet? I am standing on a crossroad with 2 drop pod armies. One use Brand the redmaw, the other use a rune priest on swiftclaw bikers. My local playing arie has rules that behind enemy lines is lost when an IC joins the unit, so that means deploying Bran with 10 to 15 fenrisian wolves. Would this seem alright? that's bs, if your IC has saga of the hunter you retain the special rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2977702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I have to ask, has anybody tried him yet? I am standing on a crossroad with 2 drop pod armies. One use Brand the redmaw, the other use a rune priest on swiftclaw bikers. My local playing arie has rules that behind enemy lines is lost when an IC joins the unit, so that means deploying Bran with 10 to 15 fenrisian wolves. Would this seem alright? that's bs, if your IC has saga of the hunter you retain the special rule. [citation needed] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2977751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuro Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 [citation needed] Saga of the Hunter gives him scout. He joins a unit of scouts, who also have that rule. OBEL states that when the scout unit outflanks it has to roll for table edge. If the HQ is part of the unit, which he is, then following the rules you've got no choice but to use OBEL. Blood claws don't lose their rules when joined by a HQ, so why would the scouts? The only difference here is that the rule operates on the squad as a whole rather than the individual members. The qualifying criteria is: 1)is he part of the wolf-scout unit? 2)can the model outflank with them? if the answer is yes to both then that's the end of it. It's one of those things like JotWW that if you follow the rules can only operate one way, but people like to invent reasons you shouldn't do exactly as you're told. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2977778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 We are not starting that argument here. It has been discussed to death for two years now, we are still waiting for a FAQ. Please awser my original question, not debating an abscure rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2977794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoll Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 there is an entire blog entry that was posted here about that. So your question has already been answered. It isnt debating an obscure rule btw, its a concern about our codex at large, not to mention 40k is a permission based system, so if it does not say something cant do something then it can, same reason why it specifies in every vehicle that terminators cant ride in that they cant ride in it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2977798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I know quite a lott of people who disagree with you on that topic skoll, and that is sort of the defenition of a disagreement. Also, you try to slip one past me by saying that the question is awsered. The saga of the hunter/behind enemy lines is not my question. My question is what sort of experiences have people had with Bran Redmaw army lists, outflanking with fenrisian wolves in particular. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2977887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanguardwolf Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 omg now that is an axe, even the axe of logan looks small in compare, if the wulfen model looks also that good it will cost me. like the rule's and the transformation is some thing i like alot, i like to play fluffy and adding this guy just fits my style greets Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244003-bran-redmaw/page/4/#findComment-2977942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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