Iron Lord Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 While it's more about a Khorne Chaos world than a warband- Ben Counter's Hammer of Daemons might be a good source. The followers of Khorne vary greatly in their approach to fighting- they aren't all charge-in berserkers- some are capable of considerable subtlety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Personally I prefer the former hands down. I couldn't agree with you more. So, as you can see, it is absolutely fine to use boltguns and heavy weapons in a WE army :) Ludovic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 According to the Cain novel The Traitor's Hand, World Eaters apparently hire themselves out to the "legions of wannabe warmasters infesting the galaxy" as advisors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmonkey0 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Nothing wrong with Bolter armed WE. I personally use a 10 man (MoK,Skull Champ,PF,2xMG) squad in a Rhino to grab/contest objectives whilst the Berzerkers charge off into the distance. Mine are a mix of Berzerker and CSM parts some with Bolters in two hands but most are true grit style with a Chainsword in their other hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Or you could be really crazy and put a chainsword/axe in one hand and a missile launcher in the other! And justify it by using frag missiles on Guardsmen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empchildrenbob Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 put chainswords or blades on the bolters, like the chaos termis have. Seems pretty khornate to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZONKEY Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 But would it follow the world eater theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 But would it follow the world eater theme No offence really meant, but if you think it fits the theme, then go for it! You seem really hesitant about "fitting the theme". To be honest, if you like it, then go for it! And to reply to your question, yes, I think it does fit the theme really well! :P Ludovic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 To me the idea of berzekers with flamers = cool! (Metaphorically speaking!) Even Khârn used a flamer on Skallathrax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Tezdal Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Page 67 of the 3.5 Dex under the "ink washes" article has a World Eater with a Bolter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I assure you that over 10000 years of constant war, WE have used a bolter - even if just to cave in some Imperial skulls! They encompass ALL pursuit of martial pride and achievment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 But would it follow the world eater theme Okay, i took the time to do the research and there is a warband in IA7 (Seige of Vraaks pt3, pg 138) called "The Sanctified" clearly depicted as armed with a bolter, and who use advanced daemoncracy to open the warp portal to Vraaks and allow the Daemonic incursion to escalate, and eventually summon The Unbound, mightiest of Khornes Daemons. They are described as "having possible ties to the Word Bearers legion" BUT who are credited as one of "Three Khorne worshipping warbands, all World Eater sub-factions: Lord Zhufors Skulltakers..the Sanctified and the Berserkers of Skallathrax". As we can see, teh Sanctified ARE astartes of the World Eaters Legion who use bolters and are so favoured by Khorne as to be able to summon his hosts.Clearly the WE have always been able to use bolters, s infered by the Sanctified being WE and therefore already lobotomized and so ALL WE and berzerkers are most likely able to use bolters. Happy hunting :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisisJimmy Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Okay, i took the time to do the research and there is a warband in IA7 (Seige of Vraaks pt3, pg 138) called "The Sanctified" clearly depicted as armed with a bolter, and who use advanced daemoncracy to open the warp portal to Vraaks and allow the Daemonic incursion to escalate, and eventually summon The Unbound, mightiest of Khornes Daemons. They are described as "having possible ties to the Word Bearers legion" BUT who are credited as one of "Three Khorne worshipping warbands, all World Eater sub-factions: Lord Zhufors Skulltakers..the Sanctified and the Berserkers of Skallathrax". As we can see, teh Sanctified ARE astartes of the World Eaters Legion who use bolters and are so favoured by Khorne as to be able to summon his hosts.Clearly the WE have always been able to use bolters, s infered by the Sanctified being WE and therefore already lobotomized and so ALL WE and berzerkers are most likely able to use bolters. Happy hunting :) I disagree with this (although not with World Eaters having bolters, I like the idea and have no particular objections to it). That list doesn't make a whole lot of sense as it lists The Purge is listed as a Death Guard sub-faction, but there is no conclusive evidence to their origins. The main obstacle I see though, is that every other piece of fluff points at a Word Bearers off shoot, and it is one that makes sense given their speciality of daemonancy and their use of sorcerers. I think the list in IA6 was poorly made, as it lists The Faithless and the Black Brethren as "non aligned" when they are obviously aligned to their own legion. To me it makes more sense if you think of them as not "sub-factions", but rather as aligned with that Legion. Just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammeron Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 The World Eaters not only used to have bolters, special weapons and heavy weapons squads, they also used to have Chaplains and even Librarians (back in the old RoC days, the World Eater Librarians were blessed by Khorne so that they functioned to nullify psychic energy wherever they went, in a very similar fashion to how the Sisters of Silence function in the more recent background). There was a time when Khorne was depicted far more elaborately and (IMO), satisfactorily as the God of hate and WAR in all of its aspects; not just the god of close combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Okay, i took the time to do the research and there is a warband in IA7 (Seige of Vraaks pt3, pg 138) called "The Sanctified" clearly depicted as armed with a bolter, and who use advanced daemoncracy to open the warp portal to Vraaks and allow the Daemonic incursion to escalate, and eventually summon The Unbound, mightiest of Khornes Daemons. They are described as "having possible ties to the Word Bearers legion" BUT who are credited as one of "Three Khorne worshipping warbands, all World Eater sub-factions: Lord Zhufors Skulltakers..the Sanctified and the Berserkers of Skallathrax". As we can see, teh Sanctified ARE astartes of the World Eaters Legion who use bolters and are so favoured by Khorne as to be able to summon his hosts.Clearly the WE have always been able to use bolters, s infered by the Sanctified being WE and therefore already lobotomized and so ALL WE and berzerkers are most likely able to use bolters. Happy hunting :rolleyes: I disagree with this (although not with World Eaters having bolters, I like the idea and have no particular objections to it). That list doesn't make a whole lot of sense as it lists The Purge is listed as a Death Guard sub-faction, but there is no conclusive evidence to their origins. The main obstacle I see though, is that every other piece of fluff points at a Word Bearers off shoot, and it is one that makes sense given their speciality of daemonancy and their use of sorcerers. I think the list in IA6 was poorly made, as it lists The Faithless and the Black Brethren as "non aligned" when they are obviously aligned to their own legion. To me it makes more sense if you think of them as not "sub-factions", but rather as aligned with that Legion. Just my 2 cents Problem solved!. Turns out the Sanctified dedicated itself to Khorne after a massive defeat to the Fire Angels chapter (IA9) in a series of assaults and counter-assaults in the 147 years previous to Vraks. I guess all the close quarter combat gained a large amount of favour from Khorne, and in my fantasy these sorcerous pansies saw the brutal truth of Khornes supremacy first hand and follow Him still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 The World Eaters not only used to have bolters, special weapons and heavy weapons squads, they also used to have Chaplains and even Librarians (back in the old RoC days, the World Eater Librarians were blessed by Khorne so that they functioned to nullify psychic energy wherever they went, in a very similar fashion to how the Sisters of Silence function in the more recent background). There was a time when Khorne was depicted far more elaborately and (IMO), satisfactorily as the God of hate and WAR in all of its aspects; not just the god of close combat. I also found a picture in the 1999 CSM codex on pg 5 of what is clearly a Khorne Bezerker firing a bolter with 2 hands. http://i44.tinypic.com/9ji2rc.jpg The chaplains also used to count the tally of the slaughtered - a nice touch IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskie Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 There are old World Eater/Bezerker sculpts with Bolters, even one with bunny ears firing as pictured. Many of the Bezerkers I painted up that are OOP have bolters in one hand, you know it is a bolter as they have a second sidearm holstered and in their off hand have an axe or some other CCW. I've yet to field them, but they are clearly Khorne Bezerkers which means they have bolt pistols under the current rules but if you wanted to go all World Eaters and almost all 'bunny ear' you definitely could have Khorne Renegades if not World Eater Legionnaires armed with something other than a pistol and a CCW. http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6002/5951081995_2ed6af917a.jpg WE Assault Marine in Nefarious Fire Colors by Muskie McKay, on Flickr http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6006/5951638972_1b27a22c2e.jpg OOP Khorne Bezerker #5 or 7 by Muskie McKay, on Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MordentHex Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 By all means use bolters, I am sure some worldeaters love blowing holes in people and can just take the skulls from them after the battle is over. All that matters is blood keeps flowing and a large bullet(s) to the chest will sure enough cause blood to paint the area around anyone it hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 In the 2nd ed codex they had the option for taking bolters...3 points a piece if i remember correctly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I have a squad modeled with Bolters and a CCW, in a Grey Hunters kind of way Not painted yet but they look pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmonkey0 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Another vote here for the do what you like faction. The other point not yet touched on is any of the warbands from the original WE companies will have had 10000 years to recruit new troops - then train and arm them as they see fit. Pics of my Bolter toting Khorne CSMs below: http://s916.photobucket.com/albums/ad4/Bla...nt=P1020764.jpg http://s916.photobucket.com/albums/ad4/Bla...nt=P1020765.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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