souldrinker1 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 hello i have searched both these topics but the search seems to come up empty. me and a friend are about to embark on a pre heresy project whereby hopefully we can take it to the next doubles tournament, maybe try to win some trophies! haha! basically i want to be as authentic as i possibly can (obviously within what i can afford too) i'm aware of the other topics on this part of the forum relating to weapons used etc in that time period, so i'll definatley take a look at them. what i would like to know, if its possible to help me out, if horus warmaster had any different livery pre heresy? or even during? or was his armour always black, despite the luna wolves being white and the sons of horus having an off green/grey or grey colour to them? the other thing is that i am aware of the different types of terminator armour, but in the time frame of pre heresy and during the heresy were there any other types of terminator armour? i've read in random places on the internet that there is speculation as to whether new terminator armour was developed before/during/after the heresy. from a personal point of view i'm not a fan of the silly leather strap terminators and would love to try modelling a different mark. obviously if the only terminator armour then was the 'leather strap' type then i can just accpet working with that thanks for reading ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244823-horus-warmaster-livery-and-pre-heresy-terminator-variants/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Horus' armor matched the pearl white of the Luna Wolves. It turned black after he betrayed the Emperor & was given to him by the "Dark Mechanicum" as a symbol of their alliance. As far as the TDA there's only a single mark, but I'm sure each Legion/Chapter customized their armor to suit their culture so ditch the leather if you wanna LOL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244823-horus-warmaster-livery-and-pre-heresy-terminator-variants/#findComment-2960239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Horus' armour was originally white/gold-like-the-sun (or something like that). IIRC it's described as sea green (Sons of Horus colours) in False Gods. Then it becomes black some time probably around Isstvan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244823-horus-warmaster-livery-and-pre-heresy-terminator-variants/#findComment-2960295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 IIRC horus wore aritficer armour before being gifted his terminator suite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244823-horus-warmaster-livery-and-pre-heresy-terminator-variants/#findComment-2960433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Horus' armor matched the pearl white of the Luna Wolves. It turned black after he betrayed the Emperor & was given to him by the "Dark Mechanicum" as a symbol of their alliance. As far as the TDA there's only a single mark, but I'm sure each Legion/Chapter customized their armor to suit their culture so ditch the leather if you wanna LOL I don't know enough about TDA to know if it's a different mark or not, but there is a very marked visual distinction between Heresy-era Terminator armor and post-Heresy Terminator armor. With the first looking like this: http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r213/Zezza123/term018.jpg As opposed to post-Heresy this: http://www.nugaming.com/assets/images/SpaceWolfTerminatorTrooper.jpg The primary difference that I see being in the pauldrons. EDIT: But as others have already said: He wore Luna Wolves white Pre-Heresy. His terminator forces, led by Abaddon, called the Justaerin or something, always wore the Black Legion colors, black and gold. So keep that in mind if you're going to be fielding any terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244823-horus-warmaster-livery-and-pre-heresy-terminator-variants/#findComment-2960438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
souldrinker1 Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 thanks for the input guys! i only ask on the tda becuase i remember seeing old models http://www.tearsofenvy.com/termi-nation/armour_home.htm - this link shows what i mean. and thanks for the info on horus' livery white gold/sea green both soundlike a treat to paint! and thanks Grimdarkness, never knew he had articifer armour prior to having tda, that opens up more modeling options. another question for you though (or anyone else that knows!) if he had articifer armour, was he equipped with the lightning claw/ power maul combo? i can't remember reading anywhere about it saying whether he had this or that specifically at one time or another thanks again for the great input Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244823-horus-warmaster-livery-and-pre-heresy-terminator-variants/#findComment-2960686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goreshed Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 You also have to keep in mind how the various suits of armor have changed over the years as GW has progressed. If you take a look at various armours from the RT/1st/2nd edition it has changed quite a bit from what we have now. GW is slowly making their product better and in turn some of the models are changing to reflect that. To my knowledge there was never any different marks of TDA, just like DarKnight had said. But again with this HH series coming out we are seeing another change in how TDA looks. More artists and such are putting their input on how it should look. Does this mean you should model it one way or another? No. But just something to keep in mind that way you can use various models that appeal to you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244823-horus-warmaster-livery-and-pre-heresy-terminator-variants/#findComment-2961167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astalon Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 There has always been the notion of different TDA variants as i'm aware. The link here describes it fairly well: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Terminator...ur#.Twh8UciFC_I The suits evolved from the first experiments in heavy armour to protect humans working in extreme environments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244823-horus-warmaster-livery-and-pre-heresy-terminator-variants/#findComment-2961169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 thanks for the input guys! i only ask on the tda becuase i remember seeing old models http://www.tearsofenvy.com/termi-nation/armour_home.htm - this link shows what i mean. and thanks for the info on horus' livery white gold/sea green both soundlike a treat to paint! and thanks Grimdarkness, never knew he had articifer armour prior to having tda, that opens up more modeling options. another question for you though (or anyone else that knows!) if he had articifer armour, was he equipped with the lightning claw/ power maul combo? i can't remember reading anywhere about it saying whether he had this or that specifically at one time or another thanks again for the great input Horus used a sword and pistol prior to receiving the TDA with the "talon" claw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244823-horus-warmaster-livery-and-pre-heresy-terminator-variants/#findComment-2961456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
souldrinker1 Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 excellent, that frees up a lot more authentic modelling options. cheers guys Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/244823-horus-warmaster-livery-and-pre-heresy-terminator-variants/#findComment-2961807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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