barenone Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I was curious, The librarian cannot summon a unit in close combat but i do not see where it says he cannot summon one while he is in close combat? of course its risky with the deep strike but is there anywhere that it says he cannot do it? and on a related but side question do they teleporters refrain from scattering on deep strike all the time or is that just with the storm ravens show skies? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245183-librarian-summoning/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Generally, psykers can use psychic powers while they are engaged in close combat as long as it isn't a psychic shooting attack. So, yes, it'll be a little dangerous to use The Summoning right next to a clump of models locked in assault, but it is possible. I'm not sure what you mean by your question on teleporters. If you're asking about Teleport Homers, they only prevent models from scattering if they are arriving from Deep Strike via Teleportation, and the wargear entry for the Teleport Homer lists the units that it works with, if I remember correctly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245183-librarian-summoning/#findComment-2965705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
barenone Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 If you read the rules for shadow sky on the stormraven it says that models that have personal teleporters do not scatter, I am pretty sure that doesnt apply to this situation or to deep striking in general but i figured there would be no harm in asking the more knowledgable folks out there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245183-librarian-summoning/#findComment-2965717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Ah, yes, you are correct. Models with Personal Teleporters (so, just Interceptors carried by the Stormraven) will not scatter when using the Shadow Skies rule to disembark, and that doesn't affect The Summoning at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245183-librarian-summoning/#findComment-2965719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 No, it doesn't work with The Summoning. Currently the only way to reduce scatter is with the Mystic henchmen in close proximity to the casting Librarian. Although it's possible Teleport Homers will work in 6th edition, but we'll have to wait and see on that one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245183-librarian-summoning/#findComment-2965720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Heretic Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Gotta love those Mystics :woot: Sadly there is no way to combine a librarian, a Grand Master and an Inquisitor in an army - gawd I miss those elite Inquisitors :yes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245183-librarian-summoning/#findComment-2965828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankred Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Mhmm, I think "The Summoning" works with a telport homer, ´cause the only IC capable of carrying on is the librarian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245183-librarian-summoning/#findComment-2970784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Mhmm, I think "The Summoning" works with a telport homer, ´cause the only IC capable of carrying on is the librarian. Unfortunately, it doesn't work. The Teleport Homer works only on units that arrive via Teleportation; The Summoning is a Psychic Power without the "teleportation" word written into it. Check out this thread for one of the (many) discussions on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245183-librarian-summoning/#findComment-2970795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandal Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Here's a thought: Could you deepstrike a Libby, use the Summoning on a chump squad of Mystics and then, assuming they don't misshap, use their Psychic Beacon (as the Mystics were actually on the table at the beginning of the turn) to safely Summon up something that's worth big points - a decked out Pally Squad with an attached inquisitor comes to mind - to wreak havoc on your opponents back line? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245183-librarian-summoning/#findComment-2970886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Melvin Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I don't think so. It's dependent on whether you could cast two powers in one turn (and even then I think you can only cast a power once per character per turn) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245183-librarian-summoning/#findComment-2970891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I don't think so. It's dependent on whether you could cast two powers in one turn (and even then I think you can only cast a power once per character per turn) Yep. No dual-casting the same power from the same model, and IIRC The Summoning cannot be used if the Libby didn't start the turn on the board, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245183-librarian-summoning/#findComment-2970895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormshadow Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I wonder… Can The Summoning be used after the Librarian has moved? It’s used in “the beginning of the librarians movement phase”. I would definitely say that he can’t move 6” and then cast it, because that would be in the end of the Librarian’s movement. But would it be possible to put him in a Stormraven with a Mystic, move 24” towards the enemy and then summon 10 paladins 6” from the base of the storm raven? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245183-librarian-summoning/#findComment-2971182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 After you've moved the Librarian, in a transport or not, it is no longer the beginning of the Librarian's movement phase. :) Its pretty clear that The Summoning must be used prior to movement. So, something that you could do (for example) is: turn 1, Flat Out the Stormraven and use The Shrouding to improve the Stormraven's cover save by 1. Turn 2, use The Summoning to plunk down the Paladins within 6" of the Stormraven's base, and now the Stormraven (and its cargo) can do its own thing. Its still a powerful tactic, even without being able to do it all in one turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245183-librarian-summoning/#findComment-2971494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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