Loken86 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hail brothers I have always wanted to run a wolves army and now is the time :) Now this is where I need help I want to build the 13th grand company why because I love werewolves now I need to know what units I can use Is it right they have no tanks or transports? What about dreads or termies? I remember reading in Eye of Terror dex that they use the pre heresy colours if so which greys should i use?. Also which dex should i use i have the wolves dex and chaos dex. My plan is to use a true scale methods to build the wulfen so there will be the size difference between them and the brothers who haven't yet succumb to the curse i have loads of chaos bits so i can mix up the armour as they would have to scavagen replacement armour from slain enemies. One last question are there any novels or fluff i should. Read before i start this project. Many thanks Loken Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hail brothers I have always wanted to run a wolves army and now is the time :) Now this is where I need help I want to build the 13th grand company why because I love werewolves now I need to know what units I can use Is it right they have no tanks or transports? What about dreads or termies? I remember reading in Eye of Terror dex that they use the pre heresy colours if so which greys should i use?. Also which dex should i use i have the wolves dex and chaos dex. My plan is to use a true scale methods to build the wulfen so there will be the size difference between them and the brothers who haven't yet succumb to the curse i have loads of chaos bits so i can mix up the armour as they would have to scavagen replacement armour from slain enemies. One last question are there any novels or fluff i should. Read before i start this project. Many thanks Loken Welcome to the Fang! the only machines you can use are bikes. My advice would be do a "lost" company,I know you said you wanted to do 13th with Wulfen but you will lose alot if you follow the 13th guidelines.Make a "lost" Comapny and have some Wulfen and use BloodClaw stats,thats my advice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2967294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Welcome to the fang 'slides a cask of meade over' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2967300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Stromclaw Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Welcome to the Fang whelp! Have an ale on me, make sure to visit the Inglorious Brawlers thread. As for 13th company, there are several ways to do it. 1. Some people still use the old Eye of Terror codex within their gaming groups. Its fun, but dated and can't be used in tournaments. Not recommended. 2. Wulfen as bloodclaws. Like Greenhorn suggested, you can always use bloodclaws to represent wulfen, but some people don't think that quite captures the ferocity of the beasties. 3. Mark of the Wulfen heavy lists. Some people just stick a MotW on every unit that can take it to represent the 13th. It could work, but has the same problem as #2. 4. Wulfen as TWC. Some people either stick one big werewolf model or a couple of smaller ones on the appropriate sized base and use the Thunderwolf cavalry rules. Personally one of my favorite ideas, though I haven't done it yet. 5. Homebrew codex. We have recently revived the Fang's version of Codex: 13th Company; you can see the link at the top of the forum page. While not finished, the Codex as it Stands thread is fun and you can be a part of writing and correcting it. The downside is its not usable in tournaments. Agian, welcome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2967310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 welcome to the fang whelp! i've made a topic a while ago named "understanding the curse of the wulfen", it contains a lot of quotes from all the published works about wulfen and the curse of the wulfen so far. you might discover that the wulfen are far away from werewolves, unable to get back to "human" standards. i think it'll be a great way to understand what exactly the 13th company finds itself dealing with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2967354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 *knocks Lokens elbow while he's about to drink, spilling his mead down his front* Welcome brother. Your in the right place to get your questions answered, your tankard filled and maybe a few teeth knocked out in the name of fun :lol: Try not to take comments to heart. The older greys get grouchy between maps. *gives Hendrik a wink while checking for others sneaking in* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2967395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Stromclaw Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 *knocks Lokens elbow while he's about to drink, spilling his mead down his front* Welcome brother. Your in the right place to get your questions answered, your tankard filled and maybe a few teeth knocked out in the name of fun :lol: Try not to take comments to heart. The older greys get grouchy between maps. *gives Hendrik a wink while checking for others sneaking in* :smacks forte upside the head: How's that for grouchy, upstart whelp! Don't go teaching the new lad any of your bad habits, you hear? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2967398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 me grumpy, nevah! you should just ask gilford! what i meant by my comment was that a wulfen is far from a thing like our typical hollywood werewolf if that's what really drew him to the space wolves and it might dissapoint him a bit once he learns you can't go back (unless ofcourse you're bran redmaw :P ) to become a normal space marine ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2967484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loken86 Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 @ Arez thanks for the advice and the welcome brother. @ eyeslikethunder Thanks for the welcome and the Mead is excellent :P @ Jonas Stromclaw Im liking option 4 now would you have the Wulfen holding their weapons or just tell your openantes what each has? Oh brain wave how about having the weapons lying on the TWC base with scraps of amour showing that the battle brother has just turned? @ hendrik thanks for the welcome brother your topic on the Wulfen will help me alot think i've read it through six times now also i never liked how hollywood made the werewolves look i've always liked the idea of when you turned to wolf you stay like it why would you want to turn back human anyway :D @ forte *wipes the mead from his face and watches as Jonas Stromclaw aproaches forte laughs as Jonas Stromclaw smacks forte upside the head turns picks up another flaggon of mead* Thanks for the welcome Forte I will try and make a army list and let you older wolves give me your opinions ;). Can't decide on a HQ does anyone know what wargear Bolvye uses? Im also tempeted to build a Wulfen version of Canis Wolfborn What do you think all advice welcomed many thanks Loken Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2967627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 For my idea i dont think i was clear what i meant (sry) use what ever models you like for Wulfen but use Blood Claw stats.But now i see Jonas's idea i think i have to use it :angry: Can i use you idea Loken? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2967955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loken86 Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 For my idea i dont think i was clear what i meant (sry) use what ever models you like for Wulfen but use Blood Claw stats.But now i see Jonas's idea i think i have to use it :angry: Can i use you idea Loken? Fine by me brother which idea is it you like? I look forward to seeing how yours come out. :lol: :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2967957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Stromclaw Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 @ Jonas Stromclaw Im liking option 4 now would you have the Wulfen holding their weapons or just tell your openantes what each has? Oh brain wave how about having the weapons lying on the TWC base with scraps of amour showing that the battle brother has just turned? At the end of the day it's your army, model it how you want. That being said, some people can be true sticklers for WYSIWYG, so representing the wargear somewhere on the model/base is an excellent idea. It also makes sure you don't lose track of who has what, which could be embarrassing in the middle of a match :angry: Definitely put up an army list so we can have a look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2967983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Fine by me brother which idea is it you like? I look forward to seeing how yours come out. ;) :P Have the wargear on the base while the model is transforming Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2968033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loken86 Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 Fine by me brother which idea is it you like? I look forward to seeing how yours come out. ;) :P Have the wargear on the base while the model is transforming Yeah brother go ahead i dont mind. Thanks Jonas :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2968039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Stromclaw Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 You're welcome brother. It's what I'm here for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2968068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Aye, welcome to the Fang little brother! *slides Mjod over* Drink up and have a seat! If I were you, I would: Use Bran Redmaw's rules to have a werewulf-en HQ Add MoTW to as many units as possible Run Large wulfen as TWC as for mentioned And I would also run Lone Wolves as SW's who have just lost their packs and letting the Wulfen take over Just how I would run it personally. May your blade stay wet with blood of your enemies and your drinking horn never run dry! For Russ and the Allfather! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2968105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 welcome to the Fang! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2968110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 {grumbles about new pups crowding the place up................} Oh, welcome to the place by the way....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2968180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 {grumbles about new pups crowding the place up................} Oh, welcome to the place by the way....... Hahaha, I thought that feeling had passed after the first wave came in with the new 'dex. Anyways, welcome to the Fang!!! The most enjoyable place in the B&C. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2968182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 {grumbles about new pups crowding the place up................} Oh, welcome to the place by the way....... nap time already grandad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2968292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 {grumbles about new pups crowding the place up................} Oh, welcome to the place by the way....... nap time already grandad See you in the Brawl thread pup! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2968551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loken86 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Aye, welcome to the Fang little brother! *slides Mjod over* Drink up and have a seat! If I were you, I would: Use Bran Redmaw's rules to have a werewulf-en HQ Add MoTW to as many units as possible Run Large wulfen as TWC as for mentioned And I would also run Lone Wolves as SW's who have just lost their packs and letting the Wulfen take over Just how I would run it personally. May your blade stay wet with blood of your enemies and your drinking horn never run dry! For Russ and the Allfather! Where can I find Redmaws rules I can't find them in codex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2969542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Imperial Armour 11 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2969547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loken86 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 @ Kassill Thanks for the advice mate. @ maverik_girl and Warhorse47 thanks for the welcome i finaly feel at home :cuss @ Forte thanks brother Ok brothers as promised heres my first ever Space Wolves list as I've said in early posts im trying to build a 13th Company I'm still learning the fluff for this company so any help is appreciated. I've taken the squad names from the Eye of Terror codex. HQ Canis Wolf (Wulfen) aKa Nightshade TROOPS Grey Slayers x10 2x Plasmaguns, Power Weapons, MotW Grey Slayers x10 2x Plasmaguns, Power Weapons, MotW Grey Slayers x10 Flamer, Meltagun, Power Weapon, MotW FAST ATTACK TWC x4 (Wulfen) MotW, 1x Thunder hammer and Storm shield TWC x4 (Wulfen) MotW, 1x Lightning Claw Storm Claw Bikes x6, 1x Attack Bike Attack bike(multimelta), Meltagun HEAVY SUPPORT Long Fangs x5 4x Heavy Bolter Long Fangs x5 2x Missile Launchers, 2x Lascannons ELITES Lone Wolf (Wulfen) 2x Claws, TDA, MotW Lone Wolf (Wulfen) 2x Claws, TDA, MotW Wolf Guard TDA, Cyclone Missile Launcher PA, Bike, Thunder Hammer, MotW 3x PA, Power Weapon, Storm Bolter So thats my list i haven't post points as to avoid trouble so does it seem right? I will also try to get hold of IA 11 and try a list from there. Now I've found some werewolf styled heads to use on the warriors who have the MotW and to add some wolfiness to the force as a whole. http://puppetswar.com/product.php?id_product=7 http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main...;products_id=97 Here are also arms for my MotW models http://puppetswar.com/product.php?id_product=64 What is the 13th company symbol and is the Chapter symbol the same? Im planning on trying my first conversion and test paint the scheme this weekend so hopfully pics soon :P See you all in the taven Loken Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245279-a-new-pup-joins-the-fang/#findComment-2969809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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