paulewaug Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The first thing that hooked me on Space Wolves was Ragnar Blackmane, 'back in the day' he was one of the few special characters to really have some character. (Atleast IMO). Seeing as he served under Wolf Lord Berek Thunderfist before becoming a Wolf Lord himself, I don't suppose there is any info about what his (Berek's) Great Company Badge looked like is there? I am guessing not, as far as I know he probably only shows up enough to give some conext to who Ragnar's Wolf Lord was before he became one himself, but thought just maybe there was more known and if there is a better place to find out, I don't know where that would be than here?! Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 If I had to guess, I'd say something with the Thunderwolf emblem as the base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2967506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsight Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I am not sure long time since I read the books but I am sure it's in there something to do with his metal arm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2967521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. A. K. Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 he did indeed have a bionic powerfist and there is stuff about him in the Ragnar books, mostly in the first three but a little in the last one of the next three regading the wolfblades. G Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2967533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulewaug Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 Ah, cool, I just hit Chapter 6 of the 2nd book (Ragnar's Claw); no word about him at all yet and King can be a little shy on the details sometimes, but hopefully some info on him will pop up by the end of the 3rd one then. If there is none, I guess I could just whatever I want and I doubt there will be more info about him coming out later since it has been a while since the Ragnar books came out and it doesn't look there are any more in the pipe. - As a bit of an aside, is the 2nd Omninus/set of 3 books worth picking up compaired to the first 3 by King? Hmmm... so otherwise I could just fake something up, and maybe make a model with a bionic powerfist as a nod to the original. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2967540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsight Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The Ragnar books are a good read for all things wolfy but I wouldn't bother with any of them after Wolfblade I thikn the next book Grey hunter is where Bereck makes his appearance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2967711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 On the covers of the Space Wolf books Ragnar has a black claw and the wolf head symbol he would later use himself. I'd say that he either had a black claw or a black wolf head on a yellow background which would mean Ragnar didn't bother to change the company symbol after Berek's death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2967775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulweih Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I think I remember reading that he kept the badge which the company under Berek already sported. But if you want a 100% answer, seek an audience with our honored Loremaster Valerian, if anyone knows for sure, it's him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2967835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I thought the iconography stayed the same for the packs and was passed down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2967867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 It depends - most of the time it changes as per each Lord - only the great wolf's emblem never changes as it's Russ's own symbol - although by the sounds of it Ragnar didn't choose a new symbol upon his rise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2967873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I think I remember reading that he kept the badge which the company under Berek already sported. But if you want a 100% answer, seek an audience with our honored Loremaster Valerian, if anyone knows for sure, it's him. Hears his name in the mists, and appears through a shimmering warp gate. "Each Great Company has its own lair within the Fang and its own allocation of starships and weapons. Each company is led by a Wolf Lord and his circle of advisors. The company is known by the name of its Wolf Lord, and will often be identified by the runes which form his name in the Fenrisian language. Each Wolf Lord takes as his totem one of the legendary wolves of Fenris, which according to legend were tamed by Leman Russ in ancient times. The Wolf Lord's totem becomes the insignia of his Great Company and will be worn upon the armor of his followers. When a Wolf Lord dies his replacement chooses a new insignia for the Company. This means that the name and insignia of each Great Company are constantly changing, a fact that has caused some confusion amongst Imperial scholars in the past. For example, Ragnar's Great Company is named after its Wolf Lord, Ragnar Blackmane, who took as his totem the Blackmane Wolf, the Howler in the Night. Previously the Great Company was known as Barek's Great Company, after its Wolf Lord, Barek Thunderfist, and it bore as its insignia the Thunderwolf, who is said to still run before Russ around Fenris, the sound of its paws being the thunder, the glint of its teeth the lightning." ---White Dwarf 246. Loremaster Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2967960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulewaug Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 Nice, you guys rock! Thanks to all for the input and esp to Valerian for having the actual info. So this is apparently the Thunderwolf as used currently by Bjorn Stormwolf's Company. Maybe I'll flip it around to face the other way so that it can be "the same but different." Cheers lads! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2968078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 that's the one - could do it in white? as atm all the symbols are in black or black + colour Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2968801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I remember it being described in one of the Ragnar books on the hull of a ship, I can''t remember which book though. Sorry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2968821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanguardwolf Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 quote name='Freakiq' date='Jan 15 2012, 05:03 PM' post='2967775'] On the covers of the Space Wolf books Ragnar has a black claw and the wolf head symbol he would later use himself. I'd say that he either had a black claw or a black wolf head on a yellow background which would mean Ragnar didn't bother to change the company symbol after Berek's death. [ dude please look out for spoilers. im still reading 3th book what i know is that he has a powerfist indeed but thats not a weapon what you want a hq to have imo. greets Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2969641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Nice, you guys rock! Thanks to all for the input and esp to Valerian for having the actual info. So this is apparently the Thunderwolf as used currently by Bjorn Stormwolf's Company. Maybe I'll flip it around to face the other way so that it can be "the same but different." Cheers lads! In the 3rd edition codex there are some marines with the Thunderwolf icon over a yellow field, this could very well be the symbol of Berek Thunderfist, especially seeing as Ragnar is depicted with yellow shoulders even when serving under Berek. dude please look out for spoilers. im still reading 3th book :) Oh please, this is spoiled in three different parts of the codex including his unit entry and even his bloody title. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2969872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanguardwolf Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 it was more a allroud request, not to post to much detail's about the book or place them in a spoiler. thaxx Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2969878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 it was more a allroud request, not to post to much detail's about the book or place them in a spoiler. thaxx I haven't even read the book myself so I can't spoil it. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245299-wolf-lord-berek-thunderfist/#findComment-2969879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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