Isiah Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 The issue of non-scoring RAS speeders doesn't seem to create so much damage as they were rarely taken anyway – cheaper Typhoons seem the optimum RW speeder of choice nowadays. But what of the Attack Bike? The 50 points scouting two-wound multi-melta is pretty much a standard feature in most RW Attack Squadrons, and the scoring ability was the icing. So, in non-Sammy armies that use RASs (or even large RW lists that need to use RASs in the FA slots), will there be less take up of the Attack Bike I wonder? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245425-how-will-the-jan-2012-da-faq-impact-on-rw-lists/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alys Dwr Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I'm not one to use RAS in my greenwing but must admit it is no less tempting an option now. I guess it's still a mobile multi melta, which if delivered correctly will pop a 250pt landraider and make up for its points value. Al Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245425-how-will-the-jan-2012-da-faq-impact-on-rw-lists/#findComment-2969012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droma Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 In short yes the attack bike is still worth it. Our version is still cheaper than anyone elses when you put a multi-melta on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245425-how-will-the-jan-2012-da-faq-impact-on-rw-lists/#findComment-2969019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skink Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Yeah, I'll still be running it if I take bikes. I'd rather pay 50 points for a 2 wound multimelta than 140 points for a 3 wound two shot meltagun. As you say, the scoring nature was the icing on the cake; I never based my tactics around the fact it scored, that it did was a bonus (and often caused friction when I explained it pre-game; in the book or no, folk often didn't like it!!). And for RW armies it will still score, as bikes are Troops. Guess they may feel the loss of the scoring RAS speeder though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245425-how-will-the-jan-2012-da-faq-impact-on-rw-lists/#findComment-2969227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengo Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Bikes, if you've never taken them or seen them used in a game, are one of the things that either appeal to you or don't, they never appealed to me all that much, and they only ever featured in green/all-wing lists for fluff reasons (They would never be included without atleast two units of terminators in the same list) The fact that they no longer count as scoring means that I doubt I'll be including a full compliment RAS in my standard lists anymore. Although, they would still remain an obvious choice for Ravenwing lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245425-how-will-the-jan-2012-da-faq-impact-on-rw-lists/#findComment-2969426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayJ Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 The RAS is still the best place our codex has for adding reliable melta in a hurry. In most games, you would find that your attack bikes didn't survive the entire game anyway, so this is not going to change how most lists operate. In my last 20 games with DA, I've used the scoring status of an attack bike maybe once or twice. I have a qualifier for the Alabama CAGE Match coming up this weekend, and I'll be using my DA. I'll let you all know how the changes affect my list. Gotta make top 2 to advance and represent my local store to try and win that awesome banner from JawaBalls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245425-how-will-the-jan-2012-da-faq-impact-on-rw-lists/#findComment-2969611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Like others I consider the scoring status on the attack bike just a nice bonus... mine usually don't live the whole game.. they do a dangerous job after all, so Very rarely i took advantage of the "scoring" status :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245425-how-will-the-jan-2012-da-faq-impact-on-rw-lists/#findComment-2969672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 ~shrug~ I wasn't counting them as scoring anyway, I insist on RAI even when it goes against me. In any case, a 4-model RAS with three melta weapons is a fantastic pair of suicide melta goodness units by any standard... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245425-how-will-the-jan-2012-da-faq-impact-on-rw-lists/#findComment-2969679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayJ Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Played in the CAGE qualifier today, and I had a single RAS unit with MMAB. The list performed pretty much perfectly. Scoring status on the attack bike didn't mean anything in the long run, as contesting had the exact same effect in my games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245425-how-will-the-jan-2012-da-faq-impact-on-rw-lists/#findComment-2973601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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