Muntatron Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 BROTHERS OF THE FANG! For many a moon have I stared skywards at the cliffs of Asaheim, praying to the gods of Fenris that I would one day be worthy of the honour of walking amongst the sky warriors. Finally after years of countless battles and victories the great wolf priests came for me. My brothers, let us drink a sea's equivalent of ale whilst you bestow upon this whelp the legends of the sons of Russ! Translation: Hey dudes, Been lurking here for a while, started collecting space wolves at the start of the year, would be great if I could get some advice, tips, help and general tactics on how Space Wolves are best utilised. I have a fair few questions so even if you can only answer one of them that's still greatly appreciated :cuss I'm aiming to go straight to 2000 point games as all my mates and most of meta only games at that level and above. Just in the process of building up an army. 1) TDAWG, these were the models that drew me to SW. I've been playing nids for the last year and they're squishy as hell, so of course the 2+5++ was an instant win. I got a box of these for chrissy, already decked them out as follows Twin WC TH/SS SB/PW SB/CF AC/WC Should I get to pulling these guys apart and rekitting them or is this a "not so bad" loadout? I was planning on throwing some kind of TDA wolf lord/rune priest with these guys in a redeemer. 2) One of my favourite units in any marine army has always been devastators, from what I've seen, Wolves utilise this the best out of any marine chapter with their split fire ability. My plan was to take 2 squads of 2ML and 2PC with a squad leader all in a TWLC razorback. Would this be a wise move? 3) 10 x GH in a rhino, subbing out a guy for a character wherever necessary. I was thinking of running 3 of these squads and throw in a variety of special weapons leaning more towards plasma guns. 4) Wolf scouts look awesome, I was playing with numbers yesterday and for 100 points getting a meltagun and 3 melta bombs with a high possibility of coming in behind the enemy seems to good to pass up. Am I right in thinking this? Is there a better/more optimum loadout? 5) I was toying with the idea of making some solid dakka TDAWG and dropping them in turn 1 in the enemy lines, coupled with the arrival of the scouts, it could cause some serious problems and allow the rest of my force the time it needs to get up in their face. 6) The battalion box seems like a pretty solid investment, especially since I would use everything in it, would you recommend I go for that next? 7) More from a modelling perspective, I'm clueless as to how to base these guys... My nids were on a desert scene, my warriors of choas (fantasy) were on a grassy/snow scene... What looks good with the Space Wolf theme? Besides the obvious choice of snow that is... Cheers for any help anyone can give me, may russ be with you Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 welcome to the fang whelp! the battalion force is a formidable investment, especially since you mentioned you'd like to droppod some wolf guard right into your opponents force. greymage wrote an excellent tactica in a topic here not a long time ago that's definetly something you should read. if you're intding for a more hybrid aproach buying the space wolves battleforce and the normal space marine battleforce is a great option aswell! anyway, have an ale lad to grease your tongue because by russ you keep on asking things! :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2969816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loken86 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Welcome to the Fang brother wish i could help you out but im new here too Have an ale on me :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2969835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 ah yes, loken and muntar (taken some liberties), two new whelps for a new bloodclaw pack. guess we'll soon see a lot of new ones once 6th edition hits aswell! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2969977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Welcome to the Fang!grab an ale and listen to the eldars tales ah yes, loken and muntar (taken some liberties), two new whelps for a new bloodclaw pack. guess we'll soon see a lot of new ones once 6th edition hits aswell! and a few months after that a drop in the BC numbers,right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Eldar!!! where are they!? Welcome to the Fang! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Eldar!!! where are they!? Welcome to the Fang! woops sorry,thats what happens when im trying to play a video game and type a reply <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal105 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 let me start out by saying welcome to the fang and have an ale now whelp lets get down to your questions. 1) TDAWG, these were the models that drew me to SW. I've been playing nids for the last year and they're squishy as hell, so of course the 2+5++ was an instant win. I got a box of these for chrissy, already decked them out as followsTwin WC TH/SS SB/PW SB/CF AC/WC Should I get to pulling these guys apart and rekitting them or is this a "not so bad" loadout? I was planning on throwing some kind of TDA wolf lord/rune priest with these guys in a redeemer. not a bad load out for them 2) One of my favourite units in any marine army has always been devastators, from what I've seen, Wolves utilise this the best out of any marine chapter with their split fire ability. My plan was to take 2 squads of 2ML and 2PC with a squad leader all in a TWLC razorback. Would this be a wise move? you realize you can have 5 guys with heavy weapons right? 3) 10 x GH in a rhino, subbing out a guy for a character wherever necessary. I was thinking of running 3 of these squads and throw in a variety of special weapons leaning more towards plasma guns. i would go melta guns over plasma for the most part 4) Wolf scouts look awesome, I was playing with numbers yesterday and for 100 points getting a meltagun and 3 melta bombs with a high possibility of coming in behind the enemy seems to good to pass up. Am I right in thinking this? Is there a better/more optimum loadout? i tend to favor the melta gun and melta bombs and a power weapon and a wolfguard with a thunder hammer and combi melta. 5) I was toying with the idea of making some solid dakka TDAWG and dropping them in turn 1 in the enemy lines, coupled with the arrival of the scouts, it could cause some serious problems and allow the rest of my force the time it needs to get up in their face. well as the scouts will not arrive until turn 2 or after that could leave them hanging in the breeze for a bit and that will mean that your opponent will be ready when your scouts show up. 6) The battalion box seems like a pretty solid investment, especially since I would use everything in it, would you recommend I go for that next? pick up a devastator box set and maybe some more gray hunters and any other things you want. 7) More from a modelling perspective, I'm clueless as to how to base these guys... My nids were on a desert scene, my warriors of choas (fantasy) were on a grassy/snow scene... What looks good with the Space Wolf theme? Besides the obvious choice of snow that is... Cheers for any help anyone can give me, may russ be with you i am planing on doing mine on a grass/sand/ snow base thing i know sounds complicated but that is what i am thinking. but it is all up to you Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 *drop kicks Arez in the back, pushing him into Muntar and sending them both into a muddled heap on the floor* "Welcome to the Fang. By tales of the elders, Greenhorn really ment ramblings of old men. Now do try to keep up if you want to survive you time with us Bloodclaws." *whispers* "and get ready to duck. There's a hole in Hendriks tankard. No idea how it got there obviously." :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muntatron Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 Thanks for the warm welcome brothers! I will have to have a look at that thread hendrik, as far as hybrid wolves, only really interested in having a pure space wolf model army. I know this will probably cost a little bit more but the look of an army is what's most important to me haha. Going off that I have another question. To get the long fang look I'm guessing you just buy a space wolves pack and get the heavy weapons from other marine sprues? POSTAL! Thank you for the detailed response! I did indeed know that you could have 5 heavies in a pack, I just forgot :tu:, the scout pack sounds brutal with the wolf guard addition. I also understand that the scouts showing up round 2 isn't a sure thing but I was going to deck the TDAWG out something like this for survivability 2 x combi-plasma/SS 2 x combi-melta 1 x assault cannon comes in at 270 points with the pod included. Unless my maths is awful... Thanks again sons of russ! May the blood of your enemies carve deep rivlets through the snow of the battlefield! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Thanks for the warm welcome brothers! I will have to have a look at that thread hendrik, as far as hybrid wolves, only really interested in having a pure space wolf model army. haha, whelp i'm not taking about that kind of a hybrid list! i'm talking about non pure mechanised,footslogging or droppodding armies. some people tend to go all the way in a certain aspect, like me. in most of my lists everything is using either a rhino, landraider or a razorback. then there are others who like to put their entire force into droppods, or just have them run over the field. others tend to combine 2 or more of these ways of fighting, leaving them with a partly mechanised,partly droppodding and partly footslogging list. hence i recommended getting the normal space marine force aswell. the space wolf battalion contains enough bits to make the normal space marine models into space wolves and this would get you a rhino and some skyclaws in exchange for the droppod and 5 grey hunters. not a bad deal imo as for that hole in this tankard forte, i borrowed yours since i was going to hurl it at you anyway! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 as for that hole in this tankard forte, i borrowed yours since i was going to hurl it at you anyway! Rumbled again. Now where'd I put that filler. As for doing Long Fangs, the devastator box is perfect to mix with the SW sprue. Although, if your following the ML trend then just convert from all the hunter killer missiles that you'll never use on the accessory sprue from any tanks you get. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muntatron Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 haha, whelp i'm not taking about that kind of a hybrid list! i'm talking about non pure mechanised,footslogging or droppodding armies. some people tend to go all the way in a certain aspect, like me. in most of my lists everything is using either a rhino, landraider or a razorback. then there are others who like to put their entire force into droppods, or just have them run over the field. others tend to combine 2 or more of these ways of fighting, leaving them with a partly mechanised,partly droppodding and partly footslogging list. Heh, blame that noob interpretation on the fact I've only been playing bugs in 40k for the past year ;) my plan was to pretty much tank up everything cept the droppod TDAWG and the Scouts. As for doing Long Fangs, the devastator box is perfect to mix with the SW sprue. Although, if your following the ML trend then just convert from all the hunter killer missiles that you'll never use on the accessory sprue from any tanks you get. I have a few mates who have said they're happy to donate all the unused bits from they're devastator kits, considering 90% of my gaming friends play some race of marines, I should be able to get everything I need to make my LF from just the wolf pack box and the bits. Then ironically crush them after they assist me. Especially that El'Johnson follower... FOR RUSS!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Aye, welcome to the Fang little brother! *slides Mjod over* Drink up and have a seat! Yes, the BF box is definitely a must, infact, 2 is even better IMO, though some say get the SM box instead. It's all about what you are going to use most. Also, the Space Wolf upgrade sprue (the old one) that GW sells is also a good investment. Like 5 or so torsos, heads, knives, pelts, Melta Gun, Power Axe and Power fist, you cant go wrong for like what, $8? Anyways, make yourself at home pup! Take a look around, read up a bit. Be sure to check out Inglorious Drunkards, and have a good time. Oh, and if Arez tries to start calling you Greenhorn, pay no mind, that's his name. :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 try to magnetize the arms on your fangs so that you can switch weapons when needed call me greenhorn and you'll never make it to grey hunter other than that enjoy your stay and dont fall asleep around forte,if you wanna know why i got some picts around here,or as Zynk :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 try to magnetize the arms on your fangs so that you can switch weapons when neededcall me greenhorn and you'll never make it to grey hunter other than that enjoy your stay and dont fall asleep around forte,if you wanna know why i got some picts around here,or as Zynk :lol: Your perfectly safe to be passed out around me, eh Greenhorn. Hula skirt ring bells? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Your perfectly safe to be passed out around me, eh Greenhorn. Hula skirt ring bells? i think zynk is still mad at you about that,but its still funny :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 there used to be a thread here, dont know if it ever got stickied, but it detailed the best buys when creating a new space wolves army. it started out with the SM battlebox and SW battlebox, devastators, and a SW sprue or 2 if I recall correctly, then added a few Razorbacks or predators which you don't glue, so they can be used as eighter. as for your other question, the basing, most used would be the snowbase, but since SW are one of those chapters that go EVERYWHERE, modding their bases to look like boardwalks / streets/ floorboards would probably make for a cool effect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Check this link. Has some useful stuff. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=235611 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 7) More from a modelling perspective, I'm clueless as to how to base these guys... My nids were on a desert scene, my warriors of choas (fantasy) were on a grassy/snow scene... What looks good with the Space Wolf theme? Besides the obvious choice of snow that is... what kind of a table do you play at usually, that's what made me pick a grassland theme for my bases. persoannly i think it rather ridiculous to see a snow based army on things like a desert table :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 7) More from a modelling perspective, I'm clueless as to how to base these guys... My nids were on a desert scene, my warriors of choas (fantasy) were on a grassy/snow scene... What looks good with the Space Wolf theme? Besides the obvious choice of snow that is... what kind of a table do you play at usually, that's what made me pick a grassland theme for my bases. persoannly i think it rather ridiculous to see a snow based army on things like a desert table ^_^ "Where wolves go, winter follows..." :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 "Where wolves go, winter follows..." ;) and so started the saga of kassil snowflake, always accompanied by a cherub trowing snowflakes in front of him :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 cherubs? as in the second coming of angels, after the serpahim? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Stromclaw Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Welcome to the Fang Muntar, have an ale on me! You seem to have a decent grasp of tactics from your first post: pairing OBEL wolf scouts with droppoding troops is an excellent way to go. Win many victories for Russ, and make sure to post up a battle report should you smash any Dark Angels :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2970968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muntatron Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Forte, that link is amazing. Just when I thought skyrim was the only thing that could have me glued to a computer screen for hours on end you throw that at me hahaha thanks though, alot of good stuff in there. Hendrik, my LGS has a ruined city map, a snow map, a grass map and a dessert map. No matter what I base them with they're going to look out of place somewhere ;) was thinking of going with a crumbled landscape feel. Chunks of rubble, gravel, few bits of dead grass and maybe a touch of snow here and there. Jonas! Thank you brother, I will be sure to post any batreps when I face my DA mate. There's 2 other guys there I know of that play DA and SW so I'm thinking a 4000 vs 4000, Wolf vs Lion will be in the pipeline :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245495-fresh-from-the-test-of-morkai/#findComment-2971209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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