Coverfire Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I have a simple question. My army uses the space wolf codex and the warhammer 40k basic rule book so why would I care what the FAQ for the space marines codex states? I'm not playing space marines or guard, so why would their rule FAQS have anything to do with me. According to GW all I need to play my army is those two books so I feel I should disregard everyones else's FAQ. If GW didn't want Njal using LOT in a rhino they would state that Njal can not use it in a rhino. That's why the whole must roll to hit with a physic power from Codex SM doesn't apply to us as we don't use Codex:SM. Makes sense to me..... I have a friend who plays Chaos Daemons and he does not believe in the FAQ either. So in his eyes this ruling... Q. The Changeling’s Glamour of Tzeentch says: ‘Pickany enemy unit that is visible to the Changeling and is about to fire.’ Was this intended to affect EVERY enemy unit that fires within 24" of the Changeling or was it supposed to be limited to only one enemy unit per Shooting phase? (p54) A. Just one unit. ... doesn't exist, and he'll use it for any unit within 24" of the Changeling. FAQ's are suppose to help sort out the rules issues they didn't see coming before releasing the books, I just wished they would troll the forums more often to work out what the major arguements are vis a vie Saga of the Hunter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2971082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emptyedens Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I have no problem with the FAQs for my codex. If GW releases a FAQ for space wolves saying this must be so I will abide by it. I'm just saying that I will not change how I play based on a FAQ for another codex or rule book that doesn't pertain to my own. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2971096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I have no problem with the FAQs for my codex. If GW releases a FAQ for space wolves saying this must be so I will abide by it. I'm just saying that I will not change how I play based on a FAQ for another codex or rule book that doesn't pertain to my own. The rulebook pertains to everyone. Ergo the rulebook FAQ pertains to everyone. Trust me, every army has rulings in the Rulebook FAQ they want to ignore. Not just Njal. to the best of my knowledge, no one is calling for changes to the Wolves based on the Blood Angel FAQ or Dark Eldar FAQ or Necron FAQ. Just the Space Wolves and Rulebook FAQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2971297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emptyedens Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yeah I know the rule book pertains to everyone and I abide by the rule book and my codex's FAQ. Earlier I misunderstood where the Njal rule came from. I thought it was in Codex:SM not the Main Rule book. I just have several rule lawyers at my LGS that try to use other codex's FAQs to interpret rules for my codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2971309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Again, with the attitude - you know full well that the general FAQ about Psychic Powers needing a to-hit roll never applied to Jaws. Specific overrides General, and the specific instructions for firing Jaws always overrode the general BRB rule about a to-hit roll. No: there were gaming groups the world over that played that it needed to roll to hit due to the previous FAQ. Anyone with half a brain would have been forgiven for seeing that Jaws was a PSA, that the BRB FAQ stated that PSA's needed to roll to hit and thus linked the two. No, it never needed to because RAW it wasnt possible to roll to hit with jaws. The FAQ's decision didnt change that, it just proved it, again. It was something unclear that confused a lot of people but thankfully has been cleared up now. Also, for the record, I don't use Jaws - it's underpowered and rather ineffective in my local group. It was poor for a long time but it's value has jumped in all-round lists with the release of Newcrons and all that lovely I2 stuff. But you go right on being a pin-head. Yes, yes. And you keep crying about the bad-waac people wrecking things and eventually mammy will stop holding your hand and give out to the bad people and you can play your games without crying about it. There's a good little boy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2971708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Knock it off. Both of you. Can we stay on topic without the name calling please. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2971781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Agree to disagree or discuss politely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2971789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vantius Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Exactly how many changes were there? I only see two... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2972092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal105 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 only the two Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2972097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vantius Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Wow. Why even bother? What an insult... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2972105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnvilofFenris Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Not sure if i'm mis-reading about the whole JotWW from a vehicle thing, but the vehicle FAQ states that you can't use "special rules or wargear" from the fire points. However, the psykers FAQ states that "a model using a psychic power that is not a psychic shooting attack" can be used from a fire point. As I read it, psychic powers are different to special rules and wargear, and as JotWW isn't a shooting attack, it would come under the ruling from the psykers section, rather than the ruling from the vehicles section. Any thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2972209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Not sure if i'm mis-reading about the whole JotWW from a vehicle thing, but the vehicle FAQ states that you can't use "special rules or wargear" from the fire points. However, the psykers FAQ states that "a model using a psychic power that is not a psychic shooting attack" can be used from a fire point. As I read it, psychic powers are different to special rules and wargear, and as JotWW isn't a shooting attack, it would come under the ruling from the psykers section, rather than the ruling from the vehicles section. Any thoughts? JOTWW is a shooting attack. I believe they are meaning things like morale boosts and the like. For example, if Ulric is in a rhino you can't take the bonuses from the Helm of Russ as you can't draw LOS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2972405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 My apologies for continuing to derail the thread. As I read it, psychic powers are different to special rules and wargear, and as JotWW isn't a shooting attack, it would come under the ruling from the psykers section, rather than the ruling from the vehicles section This is correct. Jaws is a psychic power so is covered under the psyker section of the FAQ. This is why Njal cannot benefit from his Lord of Tempest rule when in a Rhino but also why Wolf Scouts have become better against Coteaz: he can't use his 'I've been expecting you' rule anymore when he's in a Rhino or Chimera. B) This also applies to other units that arrive via Outflank so he has to be on foot for it to work making it easier to kill him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2972407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnvilofFenris Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Apologies chaps, getting my psychic powers and special rules mixed up. Thanks for setting me straight! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245572-new-faqs-from-gw/page/2/#findComment-2972465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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