rapscallion Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 just a quick survey really, id like to know what the members of the fang think the best amount of grey hunters is appropriate for 100o, 1500, and 2000 pt army lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I tend to go with 2 or 3 at 1,000, depending on my list, 3 at 1,500, and 4 at 2,000. That gives you a nice number of highly effective scoring units that can do almost anything. Also, I recommend sticking one squad in a drop pod, as it greatly enhances your number of options. You can drop in and melta a target, camp an objective, ignore the pod and use it to block, provide support to a critical area, and so on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2971917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 3 at 1000 4 at 1500 6 at 2000 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2971923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrikthegrim Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 i go 3, 4,5 respectively. i usually use rhinos at 1500 and up. i like footslogging at a 1000 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Yeah, I think 3, 4, 5 would be ideal at those point levels. I don't have enough models to run five full GH units, so it's usually maxed out at four. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphus Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I think I need more Grey Hunters...but I'll finish off my Skyclaws first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I go with a Minimum of 1 per 500pts, with one or two support elements per 500pts- wich includes HQs most of the time. Sometimes I go heavier, but not often... though it is rounding up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonSTeR Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Yeah, I think 3, 4, 5 would be ideal at those point levels. I don't have enough models to run five full GH units, so it's usually maxed out at four. As I see it you're the only oen to actually say "how many Grey Hunters" as opposed to GH packs... For the guys who've posted how many packs you run, how many GH per pack? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Yeah, I think 3, 4, 5 would be ideal at those point levels. I don't have enough models to run five full GH units, so it's usually maxed out at four. As I see it you're the only oen to actually say "how many Grey Hunters" as opposed to GH packs... For the guys who've posted how many packs you run, how many GH per pack? QFT! i LOL'ed a bit at the idea of a 2000pts list with only 6 grey hunters! perhaps a great challenge eyes? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Ranulf Wulfric Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 At 500 2 x @5-6 Melta And Wolf Standard(WS) Rhino At 1000 2 x @9 in Rhinos with Wolf Guard Pack Leader Combi-Melta Power weapon (PW) or Power Fist (PF) . Melta And WS At 1500 3 x @9 in Rhinos with Wolf Guard Pack Leader Combi-Melta PW or PF . Melta And WS At 2000 4 x @9 in Rhinos with Wolf Guard Pack Leader Combi-Melta PW or PF . Melta And WS At 2k + 2 x Drop Pod @9 in Rhinos with Wolf Guard Pack Leader. Melta And WS 4 x @9 in Rhinos with Wolf Guard Pack Leader. Melta And WS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Yeah, I think 3, 4, 5 would be ideal at those point levels. I don't have enough models to run five full GH units, so it's usually maxed out at four. As I see it you're the only oen to actually say "how many Grey Hunters" as opposed to GH packs... For the guys who've posted how many packs you run, how many GH per pack? When I say one per 500pts I mean one ten man pack, with transport or with a WG Pack Leader if theyre footslogging. The only times Ill run partial packs of GHs is if Its an awkward point value like 1250 or 1750, where Ill sometimes do a single five man pack in a razorback if Im running mech, or if Im playing cityfight... where 5+TDA tends to be my rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 500 pts 2x6 1500 -1x8 1x7 2x6 1750 -2x8 1x7 2x6 These include the Wolf guards Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Looks like my GH's are a bit low on my 1750 pt list as i only have 2 packs of 10 and one of 6 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 QFT! i LOL'ed a bit at the idea of a 2000pts list with only 6 grey hunters! perhaps a great challenge eyes? :blink: Hehe ^_^ Illegal too unless you take Logan or Canis I have actually played against a 2000 pts canis list which did have that sort of number GH's. Pretty much Annihilation or nothing :D but fun. I like having a lot of troops just my style Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I tend to go with 2 or 3 at 1,000, depending on my list, 3 at 1,500, and 4 at 2,000. That gives you a nice number of highly effective scoring units that can do almost anything. Also, I recommend sticking one squad in a drop pod, as it greatly enhances your number of options. You can drop in and melta a target, camp an objective, ignore the pod and use it to block, provide support to a critical area, and so on. Probably would've been good to mention numbers. These are all nine man squads and a wolf guard, except the Rune Priest's squad, which is eight man. They've all got meltas, standards, Wulfen, and fists, and the Wolf Guards have Combi-Meltas and fists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonarmy Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Wow i take a very different approach from all of you. At 1000 and 1500 point games i only take 3 5-man squads with a melta in each. they are accompanied by a rune priest each and are all in rhinos. they are a relatively survivable scoring unit being in a rhino and with storm caller cast by one of my rune priests gives all the rhinos a cover save. i do find against marines i need more bodies so i will assault with 2 units but this setup at 1500 points is supported by three long fang squads so the units they charge are rarely at full strength. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatGrinder Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I like 2 for every 750 points. GH packs are your lifeblood. Never leave home without a busload of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 It depends a lott on your list and for the role you use them. If you use them like shock troops you need more then if you use a small 6 man unit with a wolf guard sitting in an MSU Razorback/long fang list. I would recomend to have so many you are not afraid of using them to get killed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrikthegrim Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I always take packs of ten but my 3,4,5 respectively still stands Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Never play below 1500, and never above 1850 always take 4 squads but the numbers in them change, for tomorrows caledonian uprising I'm taking 7, 7, 7 and 6. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 caledonian uprising You know who you're playing in round 1? I found that there's someone running blob Guard and is drawn with Josh Roberts. At 1750 - 1850 I'm looking at a minimum of 5 and typically 6 although there's a tourney coming up and my list is due in 45 minutes and I'm still mulling over how many to take. They're usually in blocks of 8 unless its Razorspam when I'll run 6-man units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eirik_Xenobane Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I go with a Minimum of 1 per 500pts, with one or two support elements per 500pts- wich includes HQs most of the time. Sometimes I go heavier, but not often... though it is rounding up. I used to be a bit light on troops but after losing one too many objective missions I use a similar formula. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Crazywolf Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I would have to support Grey Mage on this. I woud say 1 pack per 500pts. That pack, at least for me, should be either 9 and a wolf guard and goodies, or a maxed out 10 with goods and two specials. All depending on what roll that pack is goin to perform. I tend to use the 9 plus wolf guard and have the wolf guard armed with a fist or the like to take advantage of the 2 attacks and te bonus to leadership doesn't hurt either. Since my dice tend to go on bouts of hating me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2972973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanguardwolf Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 750 pts: 8 GH(motw, PF/meltagun and WS)1WG(FW,combi-melta) and rhino. 1000 pts: 2x 8(or 9 depending on how many HQ's) GH(motw, PF/meltagun and WS)1WG(FW,combi-melta) and rhino. 1250 pts: 3x 8(or 9 depending on how many HQ's) GH(motw, PF/meltagun and WS)1WG(FW,combi-melta) and rhino. 1500 pts: 3x 8(or 9 depending on how many HQ's) GH(motw, PF/meltagun and WS)1WG(FW,combi-melta) and rhino. 1750 pts: 4x 8(or 9 depending on how many HQ's) GH(motw, PF/meltagun and WS)1WG(FW combi-melta) and rhino. in 1000 pts i some times use 2 HQ's from 1250 pts i have 2 hq standert. ussually 1 rune priest and 1 wolf priest in case of tank based battels, use half the rinos and the others als razorback's Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2973120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Considering we have the best 15 point standard trooper in the game, it makes sense that a space wolf list would consist of a higher number of grey hunters than standard marine lists. 500 2 X 8GH units. 1000 3 X 8GH units 1500 2X10 1X8 and 1X5 2000 2x10 2X8 and 1X5 Objective grab missions and victory point missions are the most common in tournaments and being able to lose a unit or two and still hold the majority of objectives is a pretty solid tactic for wolves. When it comes to victory point games wiping out an entire unit of Grey Hunters is not that easy if you play them right, so a larger number of GH units keeps your enemies victory point total low. Vrox. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245698-grey-hunter-ratio/#findComment-2973295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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