Brother Argent Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 So I'm back, from the Deepest Darkest Depths of the Liber (thats somewhere between the Liber Heraldry Department and the Liber Heresy Department for those not in the know ;) ). So many may remember the ever failing Iron Gauntlet Challenges well they are back, but not really. I have done a bit of rummaging in the DDD of my mind and have come out with what shall probably replace the IG2012. Basically I am looking at writing a short story or series of stories based around a squad of the Deathwatch of the Ordo Xenos and I am sick of reading that the Ultramarines, Imperial Fists, et al were everywhere all the time so I have put together this series of challenges to provide me with my Inducted Brothers. The Challenges will take either two paths, Option One: Liber Members develop a Chapter of their own creation (based around a few challenges etc) from which I create a character. OR Option Two (and this one is my preffered option): Using the Deathwatch RPG Character thingy I give the challengers a set of criteria that I randomly roll and Challlengers come up with a Chapter based around those results. These Challengers would take place over a month or so and then I would develop a character from the Chapter wit hthe creators assistance. So, what do people think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleal Baros Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Don't know about anyone rlse but I think option 1 sounds great. Who wouldn't like to read a short story wirtten by someone else featuring a member of their DIY chapter? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2974599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I like Option 1 also. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2974643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Third vote for option 1. I've found a nice paint scheme, which should finally get me in gear for the Iron Flames after about a year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2974889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkey Kong Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 If I may make a suggestion, SP, I don't think either option is exactly great. In my experience, ie a few years ago, chapters created for competitions are often lacking. They don't have many defining characteristics. Even the best competition inspired chapters are usually at their best after their authors have decided to pick them back up again. If I were you, I would request individuals to submit characters to fulfill certain roles. For example, a Deathwatch Killteam probably has 5-10 members, including a squad leader, second, heavy, CQB specialist, and, if you like, a selection of any, all, or none of a apothecary, chaplain, librarian, or techmarine. Now, I would order the competition probably biweekly. Every two weeks, you start off by giving a profile for a squad role, for example, a squad leader. From there, everyone interested submits a character, outlying history, ideals, relationships with various imperial organizations, and, if there is any, other chapter background. From the submissions, you select the winner to take that slot in the final killteam. This process continues until the squad is filled. It could also be fun for you to run preliminaries on squad roles, so people could select the characters they want to see in your story: Leader, second, scout, sniper, heavy, CQB, chaplain, apothecary, librarian, techmarine, and so on. Some people, if they have any, could also choose to submit an IA, giving you free reign to look through the chapter, their characteristics, and see if they are fit for any particular position in your mind. It would help with this idea, if you could submit a timetable for the story, some mission samples, and, possibly, any Inquisitors or agents accompanying the team on their mission. I'd also add that maybe opening a slot for Inquisitorial agents could give an interesting dynamic. Just, my two cents. Take it as you will. Edit: If, and that's a big IF, you do take up this idea, the characters you choose to write about will be just as much, if not more, yours as they are their creators. It's likely that some characters presented won't fit your idea, at least not perfectly. You should make it clear that submissions are given to you with the knowledge that you are given free reign to interpret or modify the characters as you see fit. Perhaps you should also give a few day waiting period in between choosing winners (1st and runners up), so as to notify the winner what changes you intend on making, and confirming whether or not the winner is comfortable with those decisions. The same goes for runners up in the event that the winner decides to pull out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2974984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argent Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Hmmm KHK. I like the way you are thinking.... Its basically option one but with more focus on the characters not the Chapter behind them (which makes abundantly more sense). So Guys there is now an option three: Submit characters from your DIY Chapter in regards to the various roles that I put forward. (basically see what KHK said above) These submissions willl have to have a link to the Chapters IA however. Any further thoughts? EDIT: Actually the more I think about it the more I like KHK's idea... I'll think about it while I am supposed to be working today and probably update this thing tonight, and maybe even open it up for the first submissions by the end of the week... (I am keen to get this thing rolling) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2975187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I will go with option three myself. I will also gladly volunteer members of the Black Eagle's Chapter to serve with this team. (Assuming RL doesn't pull me away for too long at a time) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2975252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 3 does sound interesting... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2975606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleal Baros Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I have to admit I think I misread option 1 as I thought it was option 3 all along :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2975772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I would be up for option 3. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2976898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argent Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Option three it is then. Stay tuned folks for the first Challenge/Character submission shortly. (Read sometime between now and next week). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2977243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkey Kong Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Haha, well, I'm certainly impressed with myself. SP, here are my recommendations: First things first, tell us the gist of the story. Who is the Inquisitor commissioning us? What are his views? What is the operation? When does it take place (this is especially important considering it may take place before some Chapters are even created, while others are still young, or long after some have had the time to become in/famous). This would also be the point where you introduce characters of your own. If it's an Inquisitorial operation, there may be Inquisitorial agents. If there are any, who are they? What's their profession? What is their relationship with their Inquisitor like? Space marines? Next, with the job description in mind, you should have that preliminaries thing to decide how many people we need (between 5 and 10 is good, I think) and who we need (leaders, marksmen, CQB specialists, apothecaries, chaplains, librarians, techmarines, etc.). You could also open the floor to Inquisitorial agent suggestions. Finally, hold the competition proper. With this, I'm sorry to say that I'm a bit of an elitist since my IA is basically done finalized. You've already requested an IA with every submission. However, I think you should require that the IA proper is more or less set in stone. I can personally attest that the Astral Reavers have undergone drastic changes no less than three times, and probably closer to six. A single character would not be able to survive the shift from the first Kraken Brothers, then Death Heads, and now Astral Reavers without an equally extreme shift. This is actually the reason why I chose to stay away from the Liber Astartes Campaign: Too many people with too many Chapters that change too much. But, what do I know? :) Edit: An IA is never "done." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2977924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argent Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 (Reads KHK's post) Indeed... Lets just say I'm working on it. For the current story I'm working on much will not be revealed on the exact nature of the mission, due to the Astartes themselves being kept a little in the dark on it. I shall reveal the basic details (Such as the Inquisitor, his ideas, Where When and to a degree How) As far as exact roles go I am slightly open but there will be a few specialist roles desired... Hopefully will get up the first basic ideas etc in the next few days and then maybe a prelininary challenge... Stay tuned folks and thanks for the interest... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2978181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Dibs on a heavy bolter! :P Specialists as in Apothecaries, Techmarines and Librarians? ... Also tempting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2978509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Dont know THAT much about Deathwatch but would be willing to offer up whatever is needed! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2978927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleal Baros Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 This still a go? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2991365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Dazz Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 If this is still a go, I'd like to say I like option 1 better and I would love to see my own chapter (Venom Lords) in this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2991436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Dazz Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 If this is still a go, I'd like to say I like option 1 better and I would love to see my own chapter (Venom Lords) in this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2991442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argent Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Yeah sorry guys, haven't been well this last week. Hopefully can get this back on track soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2991571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxx Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 hope you get yourself better. When you are back up to spec, I also would like to participate. I've been on a DW kick for a few weeks lately... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2991580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I would be keen for this, and I vote for option 3 :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-2991994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Hunter Ydalir Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I'd be more than happy to volunteer a marine from my (tragically still unfinished) Blazing Sons chapter. I'm liking this idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/245919-silver-phoenixs-deathwatch-challenge/#findComment-3000310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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