Twin .44 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 So I didn't feel like buying a new vehicle to test some paint techniques on, and didn't want to potentially ruin the old "decent" paint jobs I had on already completed vehicles, so a friend of mine volunteered his Vindicator. He asked me to paint it in the Dark Angels Green (as opposed to Deathwing Bone) and after that I had free reign. So I was wondering if I could get some feedback from you Gentlemen (and Ladies, if you're out there :D ) on how it looks. I tried a shading affect by painting black in the recesses then putting the Green over top of it, and tried a drying mud/dust affect all around the vehicle on the bottom. Personally, I think it looks a little more like it's rusting out with dust on the bottom :lol: So anyway, here are the pictures of it. C&C is highly appreciated from you folks! Thank you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246105-looking-for-feedback-from-the-da-crowd/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I don't have a problem with how it looks. But. when spraying dust/mud from below as I think you have done, raised areas leave green 'shadows' where the dust/mud colour can't go (see image 3 front view with dozerblade). You maybe need to vary your spray angle so it gets to all the nooks and crannies and surface facings that the dust would get to naturally in the real world. Great model by the way. Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246105-looking-for-feedback-from-the-da-crowd/#findComment-2977659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin .44 Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 I don't have a problem with how it looks. But. when spraying dust/mud from below as I think you have done, raised areas leave green 'shadows' where the dust/mud colour can't go (see image 3 front view with dozerblade). You maybe need to vary your spray angle so it gets to all the nooks and crannies and surface facings that the dust would get to naturally in the real world. Great model by the way. Cheers I I noticed that after I painted it. Good thing it's just a test model lol. I originally did that on the sides then realized it as I was doing it, but I just spaced out on the front dozer blade. Otherwise, you think it looks pretty decent? I guess not too bad for a first run of dust/mud and shading. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246105-looking-for-feedback-from-the-da-crowd/#findComment-2977671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I think the green is not dark enough... looks a bit Scorpionish. If that was your intended shade fine, but I'd say a darker tone would be more appropriate. Then again it could be the shining from the flash. Which I think it is actually because your mud shades look pretty well defined instead of a more realistic gradual overlap... Maybe try a couple of pictures with natural light? I think it would be more telling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246105-looking-for-feedback-from-the-da-crowd/#findComment-2977675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengo Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I agree with semper, although I'd say the colour is more reminiscent of snot green than scorpion. The dust does look more like a well acgieved rust effect than dirt and dust, if you want it to look more like dirt, then get messy, heavy drybrushes, stippling and sponging with all manners of brown, and go heavy with the inks. But nonetheless, I'd be proud to have that on my side of the table :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246105-looking-for-feedback-from-the-da-crowd/#findComment-2977698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 For the dust effect, that looks really good. My only issue with the mud is that mud is usually heavy (thick) and it cakes onto a vehicle. This could be to use a textured paint brushed on that would cover some detail like the road wheels in the track assembly. Not sure if there was a way to go thick with an airbrush. Another idea is to brush paint the mud with a uniform color that has a bit of contrast to the green (Bestial Brown for me). I also think the green is a little bright in the photos. Not quite Salamander bright but a little cheery for a dark and brooding chapter. Again it could be the flash, they do tend to over highlight a miniature. Just my thoughts and suggestions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246105-looking-for-feedback-from-the-da-crowd/#findComment-2977701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin .44 Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 I do agree on the brightness of it, but it was also before I coated it in a Matte Varnish. Darkened it a wee bit. But also there is an industrial shop light overhead in the photos :P Even without it, I did think it could use some darkening, but I wanted to see how the black underneath constrasted with shading the vehicle, even with a somewhat dark color like Dark Angels Green. If there's a thickening method with airbrushing, I sure don't know about it. It would have to be with a paintbrush and stippled on, or a cut piece of foam. It gives a good base for the mud though, but without a thick treatment, it's just rusty. Thanks for every bit of your input everyone. Perhaps I won't give it back to my friend just yet and advance on it some more. I'll post up some pics after I screw around a little more with it. I think the last time I tried stippling mud on it came out pretty bad, but no time like the present. Thanks again! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246105-looking-for-feedback-from-the-da-crowd/#findComment-2977713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyfish Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 One thing to bear in mind with it is the fact that the mud wouldn't just have come up from the bottom - it's likel to have a direction to it as it splashes onto the side of the vehicle as it moves. So the direction to spray from might be from just below the vehicle but facing back along it. It depends whether it's supposed to be dust kicked up or just mud splashed along it (or both!). Dust will collect in recesses, so you might want to brush on some paint to fill those areas or use pigments, if you prefer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246105-looking-for-feedback-from-the-da-crowd/#findComment-2977735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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