Warsmith Aznable Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 its not a question of size . a contemptor is not one of the units listed as ones that can be transported by a claw , that is why it cant ride in it . I agree, but I recall the logic for wanting a Contemptor to be able to ride with a Storm Raven was that since Storm Raven's carry Dreadnoughts, and the Contemptor is a type of Dreadnought, there were those players who didn't want to make the distinction, as may be the case with the Dread Claw for some here. And I don't remember while you might, was it FAQed or clarified by GW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Aren't Dreadclaws also a Fast Attack choice now, instead of just being a transport option? A Dreadclaw is a Fast Attack option for a Chaos Space Marines army. Someone also mentioned dropping a Contemptor with it. I remember a discussion where someone had said that Contemptors were too large to be carried by Storm Ravens, there may have been a rules clarification or this might have been speculation, but it brings up whether or not a Contemptor would fit inside a Dreadclaw based on the same logic. This here alone is an issue for me. The Dreadclaw takes up a Fast Attack slot, which means A) you can only take 3, and :rolleyes: takes a slot I otherwise need for my Blight Drones. FW really screwed the pooch on these new rules, IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmimellows Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I may be able to get a bit more involved in this thread in a few days and actually half some clue as to the benefits and weaknesses of the dreadclaw and contemptor (and the actual points costs), without just speculating. Im just waiting for my copy of Apoc 2 to arrive from the nice men at FW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 In the latest rules, the Dreadclaw "has a transport capacity of 10 or can be used to transport a single dreadnought". That means havocs are no longer barred from entering it, and it could be argued that since the Contemptor is a Dreadnought of the Contemptor Pattern, it can be transported as well as the "Chaos Dreadnought" from the CSM codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 This here alone is an issue for me. The Dreadclaw takes up a Fast Attack slot, which means A) you can only take 3, and ;) takes a slot I otherwise need for my Blight Drones. FW really screwed the pooch on these new rules, IMO... That's true, but I never thought the day would come that people complained about filling up the CSM Fast Attack choices, at least not before a codex change. If you have points left, remember that you can always take the horde of spawns. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Okay, so ive got some kind of unofficial confirmation right here, as well as telephone calls to my local GW and the larger gaming club in Sydney. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...p;#entry2983602 - Contemptors are dreadnoughts and therefore have there transport options. So, once again its GAME ON!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanct Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 read the chaos contemptor options a few times and i have 1 question: What FoC slot are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 read the chaos contemptor options a few times and i have 1 question: What FoC slot are they? It doesn't say that I can see, but the Imperial version is clearly stated to be an Elites choice. I imagine the Chaos version is also an Elites choice based on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 Max is right, there is no official FoC designation yet - he is however usually played as an elite choice. Also, the effects for the reactor are cumulative with cover saves and it CAN ride in a dreadclaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 they probably not flaging it because contemptors end up in the hyv slots when the new dex comes out . them the defiler and some other thingy will make the 3 demon engines we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Oh man, I'd love for the Contemptor to be in the actual codex... but GW / FW has said before that they probably won't be porting anymore FW units over to the main line anymore. Kind of sad, I'd love to see my Blight Drones made "official" for all those uber-tourney players to accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchort Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Max is right, there is no official FoC designation yet - he is however usually played as an elite choice. Also, the effects for the reactor are cumulative with cover saves and it CAN ride in a dreadclaw. It was stated on Forge World's facebook page that the Chaos Contemptors are an elite choice. Not sure if a facebook post would pass muster for most who want official declaration though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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