Grand Master Belial Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I will endeavor take up the vow for the glory of the Unforgiven. I will be painting up the following: - Masters of the Chapter 4 pack - Dark Angels Captain (as 9th Company Master) - Sammael on Jetbike (Finecast) - Chaplain in Terminator Armor - Librarian in Terminator Armor (Finecast) I have a squad of Successors to finish but they are nearly complete and won't count toward the vow but will be my secondary objective. Let's see if my skills are good enough for the Unforgiven Community. My biggest challenge will be Sammael I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Sharp Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Ooooh, that's a lot of ICs! I love it. I'll be watching this thread with much anticipation. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2979824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 As it Stands Photos of the IC's http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1738.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1739.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1740.jpg Secondary Objective Shadow Guard http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1742.jpg Angels of the Lion http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1743.jpg Guardians of the Covenant http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1744.jpg Angels of Vigilance - Test Model http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1745.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2979850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Looking good nice start. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2979881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Well, it wouldn't be complete if Grand Master Belial did not participate! Good start there GM, is the Master of the 9th a Zhurukhal Androcles "count as" maybe? He carries some cool rules! ;) And you can say that the model's power sword is a slow wielding huge broadsword version that count as a power fist... What? too much? :) Just remember to post the vow here or it won't count! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2979936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 I am trying to think of what skin tones to use for the different masters and Librarian. I want at least one Hispanic and one African marine. I thought African Librarian and Arsenal and Hispanic Master of Recruits and Watch Leaving Sammael and the remaining master as the two pale faces. (I haven't figured out a good scheme for Native American skin tones or he would be the Librarian in honor of Two-Heads Talking. Any thoughts / suggestions?) I am also thinking of changing up the white on gray on Sammael's ride to be bone on brown. If I do this, Sammael's cloak would become black with the Ravenwing logo on it. I have also made a change to the 3rd Company Master in that his cloak is red with a bone slash since I have Belial painted up with the black and red slash (see avatar). That should keep my palette small enough and still give these masters some flair. Thoughts? Ideas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2985691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 Photo update time. 3 Coat minimum has been achieved on 6 minis and these are just the base coats. Still need gray, brown and skin tones http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1840.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1841.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1842.jpg Finecasts are put together and primed. Now to get to painting.... http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1843.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1844.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2985756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Nice progress so far GMB! You actually have given me the idea to do the same at some point... What's the green you're using? Keep up! ;) EDIT: Regarding skin colors, I'm a bit of a consevative. DAs are worrior monks so I'd go pale all around... The African especially goes too close to the Salamander imagery. However if done to the Librarial (where the predominant armour color would be presumably blue) it'll be an interesting contrast. He will definately stand out! :lol:. Anyway, go for it, I'd love to see the Sammael interpertation! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2985788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhr Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I am trying to think of what skin tones to use for the different masters and Librarian. I want at least one Hispanic and one African marine. I thought African Librarian and Arsenal and Hispanic Master of Recruits and Watch Leaving Sammael and the remaining master as the two pale faces. (I haven't figured out a good scheme for Native American skin tones or he would be the Librarian in honor of Two-Heads Talking. Any thoughts / suggestions?) Thoughts? Ideas? I was thinking of adding most of human subspecies within ranks of my Dark Angels myself; but I saw an interesting discussion once about the skin tones and traits in general of the Space Marines; and it was concluded and generally accepted that since Marines are put under heavy duty gene engineering they in the end resemble their Primarch in most features. In our case blond Caucasian (fair tones in general). You could play more with skin tones with our recruits from the Scout Company... Of course, it is Your game, and You should do whatever You wish, and like; it is just my two cents on the topic... EDIT: Regarding Your models presented here; good job, I especially like Guardians of the Covenant... Keep up the good work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2985911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 I was thinking of adding most of human subspecies within ranks of my Dark Angels myself; but I saw an interesting discussion once about the skin tones and traits in general of the Space Marines; and it was concluded and generally accepted that since Marines are put under heavy duty gene engineering they in the end resemble their Primarch in most features. In our case blond Caucasian (fair tones in general). You could play more with skin tones with our recruits from the Scout Company... I did see that discussion and it was backed up by the recent incarnation of the Salamanders all being black with red eyes. My force dates back before then and I went with the thought of the Marines looking like they do because of the World from which they were recruited. The Dark Angels being the premiere fleet-based chapter and some of the stories therein (Plain's World) it gave me the idea that recruits would be varied and I've stuck with it. (My Azrael is hispanic with the black hair and Naaman will get the treatment too when I get a new model for him, being from a desert planet an all.) @ Captain Semper - I use Vallejo Model Colors for the Dark Angels (been using Vallejo for 10 years now, love the stuff). If you want, I'll provide the color numbers. I set up a recipe book so that they all match with the rest of the force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2986055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 Another update. I think I am about 20% of the way there now. Anyway on with the show! http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1879.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1878.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1871.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1876.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1872.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1874.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1873.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1875.jpg That is most of the base coat save on the Finecasts. I have a couple more decisions to make regarding the Master of Recruits cape and what to decorate the capes on the other Masters to give them some flair. It is really hard to keep straight lines on wavy cloaks. No Golden Daemons in this bunch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2989512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleshoes Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I really like the feathers on the helm's crest and the cloak patterns, nice to see such good groundwork :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2989517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Looking good so far GM! really like what you're doing with the robes there! I really look forward to see how sammy will turn out! Keep up! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2989527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 I really like the feathers on the helm's crest and the cloak patterns, nice to see such good groundwork :) I never did like the banners on my marines, they were paper and the banners broke off easily. So when they had that metal backpack with cloak, I grabbed a bunch and my banners became the designs for the capes. When you have a Master leading from the front, a rear facing cape would inspire those who are behind the Master, his men. Only something that would strike terror and fear in an enemy should face them. That should be the Chapter flag, Sacred Banners, Relic or in my case a Force Flag. Anywho, I am hoping to keep bringing the Finecasts up to the others and start building on these base coats. For those following along, how is the color pallette in your eyes? Too much, too little, needs another spot color? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2989769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 For those following along, how is the color pallette in your eyes? Too much, too little, needs another spot color? About right I'd say. Each will have his own unique predominance of colour(s) depending on his company cloak/banner. I like that. Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2990137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Another Update! http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1960.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1959.jpg Sammael needs to kick it into Turbo! He's the farthest one behind and he is supposed to be mostly black! http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1957.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1958.jpg Sapphon (will get another one later) is coming along nicely for now. Skull will get a wash to dark it up a bit. As well as darkening the sword on the pad. I thought an interesting bridge into the Deathwing. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1954.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1955.jpg Librarian's skin tone is pretty dark even with a camera flash. Hope it looks decent to you all out there. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1950.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1951.jpg The Battle Company masters are coming along great and are about ready for a bit of a wash on the armor. I am still thinking up a design for the brown tabard that will most likely be in bone. I was thinking the Devastator Explosion with black skull within or sword from above. Being that he can call in Orbital Bombardments. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1952.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_1953.jpg Master of the Scouts cloak is to use subdued colors to mark him out. I am thinking the DA Green Chapter Logo so it looks like camouflage but it isn't. Master of the 9th will soon get his head in the game. This should put me around 25%. I still need to prime the four masters' backpacks and get sammy up to base coat minimum with the gray under the white. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2992226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 This is turning out great! As the cloaks become more and more closer to completion their effect becomes even more striking - great idea and beutifuly executed! Your inspiration certainly paid-off! Now take special care of the Master of Recruits! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2992284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 Another update, this time I tried to get as many of the cloaks done before my hand crapped out. CC is welcome as always. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_2038.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_2039.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_2036.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_2037.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_2034.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_2035.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_2032.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/IMG_2033.jpg I am unsure of how the Master of the 10th's cloak looks. The green was a little glossy but that is fixable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2995281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 They look fantastic GMB! Really like the 9th Master - must be my favorite of the lot! I think it was great to add the company heraly on the wings of the helmet! The colors are very vivid and pleasing to the eye! My only reservation is actually the 10th Master! ;) I think the brown robe does not provide enough contrast for the green detailing - it seems to be a be lost... Any chance on turning it to white (ish) like the rest of the guys? Or use another color for the details? Like white or red? Dunno... Anyway last time you were at 25% now at 50% - to me it looks like steady progress... Well done - especially as you only paint on weekends!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2995326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Maybe the 10th Master should've had a camo-patterned cloak with no insignia. Just saying :) . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2995404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skink Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Like how these are developing. It's a very simple and small thing, but the storm shield looks awesome!! Really striking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2995441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexagon Sun Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 All coming along really well and I love the cloaks, they just work really well with those bold shadows/highlights. Impressive that you're managing to do bits on each and keep them all moving forward together, keep going! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2995560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Maybe the 10th Master should've had a camo-patterned cloak with no insignia. Just saying :D . That was my first thought. But as he is in the not so quiet power armor and is adorned with things that make noise. I figured to make the cloak resemble camouflage but be made up of symbols. I thought of using black instead of green and it is still a contender otherwise I'll use the bone color. Perhaps, I should posit the question to you all. Leave the green, redo it in bone, black or red. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-2995812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Update time! with the buzz kill that was my last post. I went ahead and worked on my marines some more. This time I used my camera and not my iPhone. I hope you like them. I just need to finish the four backpacks for the masters and then this can be considered Vow Complete. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/P2265166.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/P2265169.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/P2265158.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/P2265159.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/P2265162.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/P2265163.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/P2265170.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/P2265172.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/P2265174.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/GMBelial/DA%20Minis/P2265177.jpg I need to add the Master of the 9th in here too but I didn't do anything with him this week, so I left him out for now. Plus I was worried about the Max number of pics in a post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-3002224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 An idea for Captain Semper, how about another thread showcasing the final products of all our work - Win or Lose. A person can add their own or they can be grabbed from the WIP threads with the latest photos available. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246277-lpc-2012-vow-grand-master-belial/#findComment-3002227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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