afrodude112 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've got a bug player that I play on a regular basis with my Grey Knights and was wondering if the Doom of Malantai counted as a psyker. I say yes because its ment to be a super zoanthrope and psyker in all the fluff. He says no because it never has to pass a psychic test and "apparently" isn't a psyker in rules. So, what do you guys think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Yes, it is. Quite clearly on its bestiary and army entry page it says it's a psyker, that is the only criteria for being one. It doesn't matter if you don't take the test of not, if it says psyker in its special rules then its a psyker. Eldar Warlocks auto-pass their psychic tests, they're still psykers because they have the psyker special rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2980119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Carmine Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Tell your opponent to turn to page 58 of his codex and read out loud the list of keywords next to special rules. Then give him that look, you know the one that says "you really should fully read your armies rules before you play." <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2980123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 like this you mean? http://image.qpicture.com/image/t/artist-the-rock/the-rock-198236.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2980171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 aditionaly cataclism is a psychic shooting attack and does require a test. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2981344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGABOND Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Beat him to death with his own codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2981423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Beat him to death with his own codex. Nid Codex doesn't have enough substance for this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2981566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Beat him to death with his own codex. Nid Codex doesn't have enough substance for this. Alright, use one of the old metal Carnifexes instead then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2981868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Beat him to death with his own codex. Nid Codex doesn't have enough substance for this. Reinforce it with the BRB hardcover. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2981883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Tell your opponent to turn to page 58 of his codex and read out loud the list of keywords next to special rules. Then give him that look, you know the one that says "you really should fully read your armies rules before you play." :)This, it is right there, plain as day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2981892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Doom has Shadows in the Warp. G ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2982250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Doom has Shadows in the Warp. G :P So? Doesn't mean it's a psyker, Trygon Prime has Shadow in the Warp but it's not a psyker. Same with Tyranid Warriors, Shrikes, Prime etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2982464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Doom has Shadows in the Warp. G :lol: So? Doesn't mean it's a psyker, Trygon Prime has Shadow in the Warp but it's not a psyker. Same with Tyranid Warriors, Shrikes, Prime etc. It has psyker in his special rules, its list above the shadows thing (page 89). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2982948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Doom has Shadows in the Warp. G :lol: So? Doesn't mean it's a psyker, Trygon Prime has Shadow in the Warp but it's not a psyker. Same with Tyranid Warriors, Shrikes, Prime etc. It has psyker in his special rules, its list above the shadows thing (page 89). I think we've already established that but the point was that SitW does not mean that a model is a psyker. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2982958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Doom has Shadows in the Warp. G :P So? Doesn't mean it's a psyker, Trygon Prime has Shadow in the Warp but it's not a psyker. Same with Tyranid Warriors, Shrikes, Prime etc. It has psyker in his special rules, its list above the shadows thing (page 89). I think we've already established that but the point was that SitW does not mean that a model is a psyker. This, I even argued that Doom is a psyker in the first reply to this question, I'm not contesting it. What I am contesting is the idea that having Shadows means you are a psyker, which is clearly incorrect if you look at the Codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246305-doom-of-malantai/#findComment-2983012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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