VAGABOND Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 @Brother Landrain and VAGABOND: He bought the Baneblade specifically to use it in regular 40k games. Not for Apocalypse sized games. I should have been a little clearer in my previous post. This is the same guy that wouldn't let you see his codex when a rules question comes up. He was an incessant irritation, thankfully he's vanished for now. There's always a guy like that in the hobby, I'm pretty sure there was someone similar in my local GW who was exact same. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2985901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
krewl Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Yeah I know the type... Not just a bane blade but also one equiped with the Armoured company anti meltagun armour-upgrade.... I told him to drop the meltagun paint as thats just illigal and then I would playhis baneblade army. With my Ravenwing... with 8 Multimelta's and 3xdual meltagun. That did not survive T2. He got the message that bringing an apocalypse tank to play unexpecting normal 40K games is not very sporting, and that a not very sporting opponent does not feel very good. (as my RW was pretty much tailored versus his superheavy (or any mech heavy army). As for rumours, GW just seems to have really locked down. Marshal Learoth on the BT forum seemed to also have some insight but "nice people" seemed top have mailed GW that him knowing more was unfair and thus another trickle of info has dried up. Brilliant, what else could one expect but GW responding by leaking everything to everyone! I could not have forseen this :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2985987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martink Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 A Placeholder for Dark Angels Found on GW Site: http://natfka.blogspot.com/2012/02/placeho...ound-on-gw.html May 2012: New Codex for DA?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2989833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Cool beans. Other factors are also pointing to a DA release. It makes sense -- why bring out a 6th Ed box set containing Space Marines with a sub-par codex? How is that going to entice people into the game eh? Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2989883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatchCaptainAzrael Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Could be there's simply no new codex in the making and they're trying to force a switch over to the C:SM for the Unforgiven through this new starter box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2989940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CovertToaster Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Well if past history tells us, when a new codex is about to be released, GW stops selling it on their website. From what I know, DA is not "pulled" off the GW website for sale, at least the DA codex. It's still being sold, so to me, this is a strong indication that we will not be getting a new codex anytime soon, espically not in 6 months. Unless GW wants to go agasint history, I am sure it was done for SW/IG/Tyranids/BA(ok it was a PDF so could be wrong there, can't remember if the PDF was taken down or not)/DE/GK(Deamon Hunters)/Necrons. So since DA codex is still for sale, no DA codex on the horizon. Now can't remember if the BT codex was pulled or not. I looked this up and the only codex I couldn't find on the website was C:SM. Whether that means that there is going to be a new version of C:SM with 6th ed; I doubt that personally as the current dex hasn't been out that long. The only other things of note is that the Tau and BT codex's are for sale for exactly the same price as the old cron dex, almost half the price of every other codex, so perhaps GW are trying to sell out their stocks of these dex's before the new ones are released! Also if you read the BT rumour round up thread on the B&C the rumours are that a new BT dex is in the playtest stage but won't be out anytime in the couple of months. Just to add fuel to the fire you all do realise that there are new January 2012 FAQ releases for everybody on the games workshop website EXCEPT Templars and Tau .... and of course SOB who got one in Dec 2011. Now I really see a pattern forming! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2992320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyon Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I choose to believe its true, and we weren't the last codex of 4th edition, there was at least chaos, orks, and daemons released after our codex, so I don't much mind being the last of 5th edition if that's true. And besides, the last marineish codexes to come out were blood angels and grey knights, would they really take a step down from that to nerf us again? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2992442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddles Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 see every dark angels codex ever written? there's your answer. i'm sitting on the cautious side of the fence. GW has been taking our cool stuff for years. The picture that started this malarky (the whitedwarf spines) could easily be a chaos marine, or cultist, or a templar. until the codex is printed, or credible rumour sources say7 its happening (which to me is my own sources or one or two of the warseer guys), i'm not getting hyped up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2992469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyon Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 A credible source on warseer has all ready said that there is a new plastic chaos dreadnaught, and that dark angels will be released and part of the starter box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2992589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddles Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 This I already know. But all we know about a Dark Angels codex is that there may or may not be a dark angel on the spine of white dwarf, which could easily be the 6th ed box art. No rumours on the codex itself. We could easily be rolled into the space marine codex, for all intents and purposes. this would cut down on GWs codex updates, no need for additional sprues, and still get a space marine release early in 6th ed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2992614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 GW wont roll us into the SM dex, really, money is the major factor. make us different, give us more toys and then they can sell more codexes and more boxed sets. DA sales are high, and a new dex only means they will be higher. From a purely monetary perspective the chances of us not getting a dex are slim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2992757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Turok Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 "...the whitedwarf spines could easily be a chaos marine, or cultist, or a templar" Not sure why people on many different forums still debate this. Whether or not the DA actually get a codex, I have the white dwarf issues and it IS a dark angel. There are no other chapters with green armor and tan robes at this point in time, - period. I have played DA, own every codex there is, and have drooled over art for many years now. Templars don't have tan robes and green armor. The armor is also not chaos-y at all. There are no arrows, excessive spikes, chaos trophies, etc. I think people are wishlisting because of that guy on warseer that made up all the Templar rumors. It doesn't fit cyphers' art or the armor he wears either. Remember our DA backpacks have skull vents too. Not sure when we will get a codex as the credible source on warseer said it would probably be latter this year even though it seems the evidence points to mid 2012. I personally hope it is sooner than later. All I can say is it is nice that the DA are getting some attention, even if it just new models/bits in the starter! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2992882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Actually, because being vanilla is uncool GW has decided to turn the Dark Angels into the vanilla marines and give awesome terminators and bikes to the Ultramarines because their geneseed is that of the Big Blue Boss. Seriously, I enjoyed the 3rd edition redux. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2993376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I haven't personally touched my Dark Angels since early 2010, so I'm pretty stoked if we end up getting a new 'dex this spring. The Emperor knows we need one. This would, however, cause me to go more or less bankrupt and cause a serious strain to my marriage. :cuss I have a very sizable BA army with a lot of stuff still under construction, in addition to my Dark Angels. I can only shudder at the thought of trying to take care of both 'em simultaneusly. But dammit it's a prize I'm willing to pay! B) And the dude forming up in the back of the White Dwarf is definitely a Dark Angel, no doubt about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2993383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatchCaptainAzrael Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 That's what you get for abandoning the darkness so you can sparkle in the sunlight like a Twilight vampire. :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2993388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 That's what you get for abandoning the darkness so you can sparkle in the sunlight like a Twilight vampire. :cuss Hahaha! B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2993392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casperatis Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Personaly I think the rumors about having DA and Chaos sounds great!!! I can see GW pulling the same thing they did with fantasy. High elves and skaven. Giving high elves new models and going all out with skaven. I can see this happening to our great chapter. Where Chaos gets a new book and new models, we will only get new models. Yes, I play high elves and am kind of mad that still there is no new codex for them. As for being a DA player... I would welcome the new models, as my wife would say "you already have to many models as it is. You have so many projects for just one army. Why do you need more models." I could easily let her know that new models are what I have been looking for for me to complete all the "projects" that I have. Either way, just hearing rumors about DA getting anything is a good sign. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2993932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyfish Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 my wife would say "you already have to many models as it is. You have so many projects for just one army. Why do you need more models." This sounds very familiar... I think a Dark Angel Codex is likely either shortly after the 6th edition release or early in the New Year. The main factor on which one it is is whether there are any problems with our moulds and whether it fits neatly into the GW release schedule. If there's a slippage with 6th (rulebook or boxed game) then the Codex could be pushed back until the following 40k release slot. It is interesting that they haven't plumped for the Ultras again, and I wonder whether that indicates that they have run out of ideas for new models for Codex marine lists? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2993961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddles Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 GW wont roll us into the SM dex, really, money is the major factor. make us different, give us more toys and then they can sell more codexes and more boxed sets. DA sales are high, and a new dex only means they will be higher. From a purely monetary perspective the chances of us not getting a dex are slim. DA sales are high? evidence? At this point in time the specific DA kits are: - chapter upgrade sprue - veterans box (which is the upgrade sprue + bases + the sargeant tactical marine kit) - Sammael finecast - chapter master finecast - metal ezekiel - metal azrael - ravenwing battleforce - ravenwing bike box (do they even sell this anymore) The ravenwing battleforce sells well because it's good for any biker marine army. the upgrade sprues/veterans make great alternatives to sternguard. the rest? unless you're making dark angels, i can't see them selling as well as other marine kits. most of which are compatible with dark angels anyway. however, if we get a solo dex, expect at least 2 unique units for the Dark Angels. i'd be ok with us being the new poster boys for C:SM. ravenwing with biker command squads would be sickeningly good, as would turboboosting in the scout move in combination with deathwing assault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2993986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 the number of sets you point out show that the DA are probably going to receive an update. Really, I mean, why would they not. They want profits, will they make more money from 2 'dexes or one? I collect both SM and DA armies, so, thats 2 codexes. If they roll into one, thats less money they get of me. In addition, we have a lot of cool stuff that they wont want to lose in the edition, Company-vets box, RW battleforce, etc. No, I can see an expansion of sets in a new codex rather than a reduction as they roll us into the SM codex. It makes more sense to release DW boxes and plastic Jetbikes for our codex as well as more special characters rather than limiting to Azrael and possibly Belial in a SM codex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2994309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatchCaptainAzrael Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I'm fine with us being in C:SM, provided a few conditions (some are general ideas, mind you) are met. - All 1st Founding Chapters (and a few notable successors) get at least one Chapter Master IC and as many ICs as possible to minimize the effects of retcon. Space Wolves need not be counted amongst this group for obvious reasons. - Armies may pick one rule of a set of Chapter Rules if they take a generic HQ. - Customization of units according to Chapter doctrines. - Retconning the "Spiritual Liege" fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2994354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 which probably wont be met, they wont put Belial, Sammael, Asmodai and Ezekiel in there as well as Azrael, then you have the BA, who could also easily be folded into C: SM. Even Wolves could be, and BT, if they tried it out. No, we will receive a codex with more characters, more fluff, more special rules and more units Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2994361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatchCaptainAzrael Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Who says I wasn't putting BAs in the basket? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-2994371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Here's some more grist for the rumour mill. A leaked photo of the new 40k paint set with five generic marine models that are painted as Dark Angels! :cuss Click me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-3021174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Hmmm, white "tactical" double headed arrows... I like this very, VERY much! EDIT: not least because of my Disciples... :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246306-da-book-coming-up-on-first-half-of-2012/page/7/#findComment-3021178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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