frostclaw222 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I've been through all my old books, looking for this, because I know it's there, but cannot seem to find it, so I thought I'd ask the board at large, and since it's painting-related, I figured this was the best place to pose it on the forums.... I have a few Space Wolves minis that I want to mark with symbols from the first Armageddon War, where Angron and company got curb-stomped by Logan Grimnar and a host of Grey Knights at the climax. Now, somewhere, I remember seeing a figure with a knee-pad with a symbol marking him out as a veteran of that conflict, but for the life of me, I cannot find it now. Can anyone lend a hand with either telling me where to look or tossing up an image? I literally spent the better part of an evening looking for the damn thing, with no success. Thanks, Frostclaw Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246413-1st-battle-of-armageddon/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostclaw222 Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 Going to bump this once in the hopes someone knows something, rather than repost. Mods, if it goes unanswered, then I shan't do it again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246413-1st-battle-of-armageddon/#findComment-3114022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Can't say I've ever seen such a marking on a Space Wolf, are you maybe thinking of the Salamanders Librarian in the Librarians IA? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246413-1st-battle-of-armageddon/#findComment-3114029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostclaw222 Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 Probably. It's literally been years since I've seen the article. I think at the time I must've assumed all chapters would take the same mark for the same warzone, I guess. Any idea which WD/IA book it was in? I think I might still have most of my books and mags here on the island, but that's a lot of stuff to plow through. BTW: Thanks a metric ton. I thought I'd dreamed it up, and nobody knew what the heck I was talking about. EDIT: Nevermind, found it. Thanks so very much Vodunius! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246413-1st-battle-of-armageddon/#findComment-3114032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 If that was the marking you were thinking of then bear in mind the Salamanders weren't present during the 1st Armageddon War, so the marking must be 2nd or 3rd (presumably 2nd), of course it is one of the coolest campaign badges GW has ever shown so you could always claim it was resurrected during the 2nd War from some ancient planet-wide conflict no man remembers.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246413-1st-battle-of-armageddon/#findComment-3114246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Can you show that Salamander pic? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246413-1st-battle-of-armageddon/#findComment-3116242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostclaw222 Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 No cam with me, Cyrox, but it's pretty easy to describe: Appears on left lower leg of a Sally Codicier. It's a flame (think straight-down descending fireball or really wavy matchstick) surrounding a black diamond (square with one tip pointed up). Within the square are four white triangles, equilateral, pointing inward, offset so that their tips are off from the tips of the black diamond by 45 degrees. Not sure which of the Armageddon conflicts it's supposed to represent. I know the Salamanders were there when Grimaldus fought in Helsreach (Armageddon III), but they may have been there other times. Since it isn't an obvious ork or World Eater's/Khornate insignia, I'm not sure what else I can tell you. Given the descending fireball motif surrounding it, I'd think it was Armageddon III, given the massive amount of troopships that descended on the planet once the defending fleets withdrew, but it could just as easily be some simplified rendition of a Dreadclaw assault pod, too. At any rate, hope this helps. Sorry for the delay; didn't see your reply til just now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246413-1st-battle-of-armageddon/#findComment-3129584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/khromash/w40k_ia_sml_m3.jpg The third armageddon war IA article had pictures of the 24 chapters present during the initial stages of the conflict - none bore this marking, most - including the Salamander - lacked campaign markings but the Blood Angel, Flesh Tearer and Celestial Lion all bore badges for different Army Groups (Battlezone Tempestora, Delta 9 and Fire Wastes Army Group North respectively - the latter two presumably being an error since the Flesh Tearers were in the Fire Wastes and the Celestial Lions were at Hive Volcanus) suggesting there was no Armageddon-wide campaign badge for that war. The White Scar in said article did have a reference to his typical White Scar jagged red 'foot' markings being 'Armageddon Campaign Markings' but that could be yet another error, or else different Chapters each had their own campaign emblem, in which case the firey emblem could be Salamander specific - but the fact the Salamander in the article isn't shown with said marking to me suggests it was 2nd Armageddon War. If it is generic not Salamander specific it would make more sense for the 2nd War since Armageddon was in flames before the Astartes arrived, during the 3rd War the Astartes were there before the orks so you'd kindof expect the general badge to be something defensy like a shield (the 3rd War IA article was entitled 'The Emperor's Shield) or a castle or somesuch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246413-1st-battle-of-armageddon/#findComment-3129723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 According to The Battle for Armageddon, the badge shown on the Salamanders Librarian is a variant of a mark that was commissioned after the first war on Armageddon (Angon's incursion). That would make it suitable as a campaign badge for the Second War for Armageddon (Ghazghkull's first invasion). It could just as easily have been used as the official campaign badge of the Third War for Armageddon, too, though. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246413-1st-battle-of-armageddon/#findComment-3130252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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