Echoes from the Warp.

[Decoy]

Hail, Wolfbrethren. It has been an age and a day since I last graced the hallowed halls of the Fang, an age and a day longer since I made a thread here of any relevance. For those unfamiliar with me, I am Decoy.

 

 

I am oftentimes characterized as one of the Wulfenkind; I am loud and boisterous at best, and obnoxious and a nuisance at worst. I have taken great pride in my armies; I started with Space Wolves, then accumulated the 13th Company, and then to Wolves once more, but always Wolf I have been. Never has a day passed that I lamented my choice of army, and I remember fondly the first days when I stepped fairly timidly into the Fang here at the Bolter and Chainsword. I was new, fresh-faced and eager to learn. Alongside me were some of the greats of the time; Lord Rags, Spyrer, Grey Mage, Wolf Lord Lars, to name some from the top of my head. There was the venerable DepthCharge, who oversaw myself and the pack I ran with.

 

These were the people I signed up with, roughly. We learned together, we posted together. We helped one another, and we all grew. Yes, we grew distinctly differently, but we grew -together-. GM grew to become a valued member around the community, Spyrer fell by the wayside (your presence is sorely missed, brother), WLL I've heard nothing from here in the Fang, and Lord Rags... Well, he's still around, obviously. DepthCharge... Never found out what happened to him. I hope he's well.

 

We have watched as the Codex has changed, we watched as young up-and-comers have developed and become both good friends and positive role models (I'm looking at you, MaveriK and Forte. :lol: ). Likewise, we have watched as our "packmates", such as they were, have drifted by the wayside. I cannot speak for any of my Pack, but I can say that I have noted the passing, or inactivity, of my fallen brethren.

 

 

With that said, I would like to make a point. I offer this to the mods to do with at their discretion, and I do offer it with respect and understanding. I hope that they take the time to consider these words with the same respect and understanding that I give them. It is a rare day indeed when I genuinely speak from the heart.

 

 

The Fang, here in the Bolter and Chainsword, is a forum dedicated to Space Wolves. Not just "40K Space Wolf armies and gameplay", not just "WIP and list questions". The Fang itself is (or notably, was) a safe haven for Space Wolf players to be just that; Players. A community of like-minded individuals devoted to the Space Wolf ways, be it on the battlefield and perhaps a little bit off the battlefield. We can come here, unwind, relax, and generally enjoy ourselves with a bit of witty banter and some roleplay. This has always been the way of the Fang: When the Bar and Grill shut down, the Tavern opened. When the Tavern was closed, the Bar Brawls opened up. It is an inevitability, as sure as the sun will set and the moon will rise. To fight that is to try to fight the forces of nature themselves.

 

The Fang is fun because we -made- it fun. Original content, evolved from the minds of Wolfbrothers across the world, communicated through this very Forum. A Wolf can reach out across the surface of Earth itself and make another Wolf laugh. Friendships that develop here can endure through the lives of all involved, not simply during the span here on the forum. I lament that I wasn't here and active for the time of MavGirl and Arez's pack development. Do you know why? Because they're good people. They're fun people. They are people that I want to be able to relax with and joke around with. They are Wolves. Now, to be blunt, I am semi-seriously afraid to attempt it in my "Way", because apparently, my "Way" isn't acceptable here in the Fang any longer. People may feel "Excluded", and so for the good of those people's feelings, the whole other lot of us must suffer. While lurking during my recovery, I missed the actual "incident", but some happening here in the Fang resulted in an almost complete purge and annihilation of fluff-based interaction or discussion. B&C Fang-based projects ground to a halt. Creative writing and development ceased, some threatened with erasure. To me, this has become less about being a Wolf, and more about being human.

 

 

I know that I haven't made a worthwhile post in years, Mods. Perhaps some of you, and some of the residents of the Fang, may not see this as worthwhile either. More power to you; that's what makes this forum great. However, please do not casually dismiss this request.

 

 

 

Let the Fang be what it is. Let us be -us-. Since I have started lurking again, all I feel is an atmosphere of tension, coldness, and to be blunt, mild fear of posting anything that might possibly be construed as "Pack-esque." (Fun word to type, by the way.)

 

Don't shut down the insane creativity of those of us here in the Fang. The Brawls, the writings, the stories, the sagas, the history of the army and the history of the people, the laughter and the joviality, the debate and the consideration. It took me a long while to realize what makes the Fang so dear to my heart, close enough where I would consider it a home: The people. We, the denizens of this forum, and our interactions, make the Fang great in all the best of ways.

 

 

Let us continue to do so.

 

 

 

Adam D. Bruno

 

~DECOY~

[Mac the knife]

Welcome back to the fang brother. I remember your posts fondly. Was curious where you'd disappeared to. /slides a flagon of mead across the table.

 

I'm sure you remember where the ork keeps the chow. Bolter babes are, as always, near the hot tub.

 

May your ale horn be overflowing and your sagas resound through the halls of our humble mountain.

[MaveriK]

Your words and wisdom far echo what my lips dared to speak weeks ago. I guess it's only appropriate that someone like you, step up and have their voice (howl) heard. Spoken like a true wolf at heart! you have been missed wolf brother.

[Russ Brother 92]

Adam (if I may call you such) - Decoy, I myself am much younger in years on B&C and probably in RL - but much like many of those you mentioned I see them as builders and architects of the forum and especially of the Fang.

 

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I was present for the 'incident' and expressed my views then and there, as you've said above the weird and wacky activities are what kept me coming back here - yes I joined for the combined knowledge of what was at the time my first Space Wolves army (I was a green orkish xenos before) but I kept coming back because with the knowledge came acceptance. For me after the initial 'hello/hi/here have a pint' that are the usual welcome to the Fang notes and the expertise of my brothers here, I started looking at other areas, the Sagas, the variety of Painting Challenges, and more than anything the Brawls (tyvm MaveriK & Mav_Girl) as they were incredibly entertaining, hell because of the sheer scale I'd be reading page X when pages YZ1245... etc. went up, did it make me feel excluded that I wasn't part of the Brawl itself hell no! it showed me that we wolves are creatures not of habit, but of passion and of character. We are all creatures of skill and knowledge, yes some things come across the wrong way - but hey everyone's using a laptop/computer/smart phone etc. so our feelings shouldn't be hurt by what someone says or how they feel unless it's designed to be personal (at which point Hendrik or Lord Rags would step in) so I honestly do and don't understand the closure of -our- greatest work.

 

Obviously this isn't getting at you in any way - being supportive <_< - as I agree with all you have said, thank you for speaking truthfully and from the heart brother.

 

All The Best,

 

Tom/Russ Brother 92

[Jonas Stromclaw]

Decoy my brother, welcome back! I was starting to wonder if you'd gone and died on us <_< .

 

I am in support of all you said; it was the brawls of Firenze, Tuditanus, and Fellblades, that first attracted me to space wolves. Without the craziness that is this forum, I would never have gotten involved in this wonderful hobby. When I first joined up, veterans such as OID and Vassakov made me feel instantly at home, and I have tried to communicate that same feeling to others as they arrive. I am not the most prolific or insightful poster, but I would like to think that I have made friendships in this place. Lets not let the activities that led to those fall by the wayside.

 

:passes tankard to Decoy:

 

Raise 'em, sink 'em, and let's have another!

 

Joshua H.

 

Jonas Stormclaw

[hendrik]

this made me pink away a tear decoy!

but it should be noted that it was not one of the mods that toned down the roleplaying part but members like me and maverik. only WE are responsible for the change in the atmosfere here and not any of our beloved mods!!!! we did so on purpose because certain people took offensence to it and the roleplaying had reached a point where it had gone to far. i blame myself for this largely by making topics such as "the fangs packs" and heck, even a secret project i was about to launch together with the other storywriters of the sagas of the fang!

perhaps in time the role playing part will appear again and people will once more embrace it for the fun it brought to the forum but for now no more mighty sagas or heroic tales about our members of the fang.

 

together we have started a fire, a mighty fire so bright and fierce it enlightened these sacred halls. but like with all fire people got burned and so we dimmed it, untill only small flickering coals remained. and we will keep them that wyay, untill the burns are healed. perhaps then, once more we shall unleash the icy breath of fenris into these coals, and with it, light this mighty fire once more, untill it enlights these halls once more!

 

Hendrik

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[postal105]

decoy i am not much of a writer and it is hard for me to put my thoughts into words some times but this is not one of them times you my wolf brother made a tear rise in my eye and i also hope that some day soon the fang's tavern will be full of wolves drinking and brawling and others telling tales of epic deeds that was once done or that they had seen done by another wolf brother.

[Decoy]

this made me pink away a tear decoy!

but it should be noted that it was not one of the mods... (snipped rest of post)

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I was waiting, Hendrik. I saw you posting, and figured I could wait. If you'll give me but a moment, I will reply to you.

 

 

 

Others, before Hendrik: Mac. I remember you vaguely, though not because of inactivity on your end; I simply have a semi-poor memory. But remember you I do. It is good to see you again, brother. *salutes smartly*

 

Russbrother. I am unfamiliar with your sagas, Wolfbrother, but I am anxious to hear them over a roaring fire! Such sagas are best told, however, in places other than this. I thank you for your understanding and support. It is good to know that my message is not lost on the tender ears of a whelp! *grins, winking wryly*

 

Mav. As always, my friend, it's good to hear from you. Though you've already made quite a name for yourself in my absence, and I can only assume that my own fame has been far diminished by your own! I am a huge fan of your work, though, and have never had the opportunity or time to mention it. Well done, brother.

 

Jonas. My comrade in arms more often than I would care to admit! Nay, it takes more than being hit by a truck to lay this Wolf low for good. Close, perhaps, but not quite. My fate awaits me on another battlefield than a busy street corner. *raises the tankard high* Raise 'em high, drain 'em low, old friend.

 

 

 

All right, Hendrik.

 

Firstly, let me assure you that I know you and yours voluntarily withdrew your writings. I understand that real life, among other things, often far supersedes that of an online forum. It is a truth, unfortunate though it may be. What made me address the Mods in particular, however, was their (admittedly well-reasoned) response to the closings of particular threads regarding the "incident". However well-meaning they may have been, there was a significant backlash and resultant Fang-wide echo of the events that unfolded, not the least of which was your own response to the "incident", meaning the closings of your writings. In no way am I accusing the mods of being unfair, nor of directly censoring the writings of our packmates here in the Fang. However, as with all actions, the reaction stemming from their relatively benign action resounded, and have affected the Fang as a whole, if only in subtle ways; ways that ultimately affected how some, perhaps many, of us posted here.

 

I have no doubt that the fires of Fenris will burn again, and burn anew. I have said as much. What I worry for, however, is the ability or inability of those tender embers to spark once more and blaze as brightly as they have always done. I wish to make it clear, directly, that the fires that each of us stoke should not be suppressed in the name of potentially upsetting someone. Rather, if someone -is- upset, why not let that person take up issue with the opposing poster directly? Civilly, of course, for we are men before beasts.

 

The long and the short of it is that I wish to make sure that the atmosphere is still correct to -enable- such things. To make it clear that creativity, innovation, and most importantly, direct interaction between the players, are not only permitted, but encouraged. Please do not mistake me.

 

As always, old friend, greatness will burn. It's only a matter of when.

 

 

 

ON EDIT: And to you, postal. It's good to see you again, brother. I remember fondly when you first joined with us. I hope you are well, and I look forward to once more hearing your sagas over an ale and the hearth!

[hendrik]

i cannot argue your words decoy, since i feel 100% about it like you do, however it was the taking it up directly when one took offence that has caused all this. newer players that had contributed far more then lurkers took offense when the newer players called them whelps, and vice versa the lurkers didn't like not getting the same title as other players that had joined before or with them but posted here more actively. much like the thrice cursed thousand sons we found ourselves betrayed by our every act we had done for good. every saga we had told about the whelps suddently became a dagger that stabbed us in the back and had lifted them above the lurkers. every time we mentioned the greybeards and not the lurkers or the not so known older members we left them out it the dark and instead lifted ourselfs in recognition, albeit unwanted.

this is the sole reason why i decided not to write any sagas anymore, evnen when my head was flowing over with ideas of mighty deeds for the members on here to perform. i have already caused harm to others even when it was not my purpose but therefore i will not do it any time soon. our first duty lies with helping the members here in the fang, the things like brawls only add character while doing so and apperently caused harm to some.

 

you should know me and mav decided to stop these activities even before the mods intervened and so once more it is ourselves we should blame, in fact, we should honour our mods for not already having acted harder against this role playing which even goes against the board rules!

[Decoy]

i cannot argue your words decoy, since i feel 100% about it like you do, however it was the taking it up directly when one took offence that has caused all this. newer players that had contributed far more then lurkers took offense when the newer players called them whelps, and vice versa the lurkers didn't like not getting the same title as other players that had joined before or with them but posted here more actively. much like the thrice cursed thousand sons we found ourselves betrayed by our every act we had done for good. every saga we had told about the whelps suddently became a dagger that stabbed us in the back and had lifted them above the lurkers. every time we mentioned the greybeards and not the lurkers or the not so known older members we left them out it the dark and instead lifted ourselfs in recognition, albeit unwanted.

this is the sole reason why i decided not to write any sagas anymore, evnen when my head was flowing over with ideas of mighty deeds for the members on here to perform. i have already caused harm to others even when it was not my purpose but therefore i will not do it any time soon. our first duty lies with helping the members here in the fang, the things like brawls only add character while doing so and apperently caused harm to some.

 

you should know me and mav decided to stop these activities even before the mods intervened and so once more it is ourselves we should blame, in fact, we should honour our mods for not already having acted harder against this role playing which even goes against the board rules!

 

I was, briefly, torn on how to respond to this, Hendrik. Your clarity and summary are most appreciated.

 

My sentiment stands, however. I believe that what you have said only furthers my point: You performed these acts in the name of goodness and interaction between players, trying to coax other Fanggoers out of the shadows and allowing them a chance, so to speak, to make a name for themselves. For others, more active others, your posts allowed for room to get to know lurkers and those whose Sagas have yet to be fully told. You gave every person who dwells within the Fang a chance to make their mark. You stepped up to the plate and did something good for the whole of the Fang. It is not, nor will it ever, be your fault that people were "harmed", as you describe it.

 

Let me say this, to both the Lurkers and the Whelps, the Blood Claws and Grey Hunters, the Wolf Guard and the Wolf Lords. We are a community. We are, first and foremost, brothers (and sisters) of the Wolves. Our first and primary objective, here in this forum, is to help one another, to lift one another and to guide one another. If you are greater than someone in one aspect (I forever will refer to Mav when it comes to modeling, and Grey Mage when it comes to rules), turn to them for help. If you, in turn, are more wise in certain ways than others, assist them. Aid them.

 

Hendrik, you are a storyteller, a saga-maker, a skald of unquestioned worthiness (among your other varied talents.) The -entirety- of the board was uplifted, elevated through your actions and your selfless contributions to the board. I, and I am fairly certain I may speak for most of the Fang here, thank you from my soul itself. When my body was broken and healing in the confines of a hospital, I turned to your threads, and those of Mav, for entertainment and encouragement. Though I would never burden the board itself with my problems directly, I relied on you (ALL of you reading this) to help me, whether you knew it or not. I drew strength knowing that though I knew not a single one of you in person, we were allies, comrades. I did, in part, heal by continually reminding myself that I had yet more to contribute to this board, and to its members.

 

We are, in our own way, a family. Hendrik, the goofy, storytelling grandpa. Myself, the uncle that everyone tells their kids to avoid. Jonas, the Emmett-Brown-style weirdo. Lord Rags, the stern father. Mav-Girl, the awesome, nerdy sister-in-law (or... cousin, or something.) Arez, the younger cousin who's just damned funny.

 

And you know what? That's okay. We're -not- all equal here. As people? Yes. We are equal. But we all have our archetypes, and we all have our packs, a brotherly bond to those we grew on this board with. And that's okay.

 

 

I guess what I'm driving at is... I understand, Hendrik. I don't agree, but I understand. I do not think we should let the actions or inactions of a few result in the death, however temporary, of such a good thing (or things.) I don't -want- to be afraid to post things such as my own OP, simply because certain people aren't mentioned. I don't -want- to have to second-guess myself, wondering whether I'm allowed to greet a newbie in typical Wolf fashion without someone popping up and saying "why didn't I get a greeting like that?" And ultimately, whether or not that happens is -completely- out of my hands. It shouldn't be.

[Forté]

"I love you Decoy....who....GREENHORN! STOP SPIKING MY ALE!!!!"

 

It's difficult putting a truly sensible comment when you have a 3 year old on your shoulders.

 

I have to say I miss the sagas and tales more than the brawling. Ramses writing for the solo brawls in the Tavern were hilarious and showed so much promise for what was never to come.

 

The main thing I personally feel we need to do is change the way we greet new people. I have promised myself that I won't attack on sight and to introduce myself back so they know I consider myself a claw and invite them to visit other threads.

 

I'll leave it there for now as the little one is falling asleep...oh dear!

 

And thank you Decoy for the honour of a name drop :)

[Mr. Danvers]

I'll chuck my 2p in if it's permitted? :)

 

If not, it can always be doused in promenthium!

 

People won't know who I am, and it's actually part of the point really. As you can see from my join date and post count I've not been one for vocalising myself that much on B&C, despite a fair few years spent as a lurker with no account before I joined. I think hendrik has sounded out a lot of how I felt about the forum for a while. I've been playing with Wolves since 2nd ed, so I'd say I'm possibly more long in tooth than a few on here, but I've often felt quite alienated here in a sense and always been put off by people suggesting that I'm somehow less valued in opinion etc. Surely our kindred spirit for the warriors of Fenris should (help) bind us together? Not sure when I got the impression, but it's been quite a while and I've often felt like to post would be like trying to force my way into a very cliquey (if that's a word) group (Googled it, yep it's a word ;)). I don't think people self stylising themselves with a rank is a good plan really; you're just going to end up offending people in the long run. Like hendrik said, going about calling people 'whelp' based upon their post count is hardly going to endear you to other board members or make people want to stay here. I've only started to throw out my creative ideas now as the place has seemed a lot quieter since the whole 'incident' that's been mentioned. I think I saw the back end of it, but I don't know the ins and outs. I'm not going to ask about it, I don't really want to know if I'm honest either. I've only really felt that I could happily put up my ideas recently. I hope we go back to what it used to be where things were a bit more open to newer posters/lurkers.

 

Welcome back Decoy. You won't know who I am, but I remember you :D.

[Decoy]

I'll chuck my 2p in if it's permitted? :)

 

Welcome back Decoy. You won't know who I am, but I remember you :D.

 

You underestimate me, Danvers. I remember reading something of yours. While my memory is far from perfect, I do remember your name.

 

 

You raise valid concerns. I understand your point completely, brother, and regardless of your post count, a brother you are. Too many of us rely on post count to determine "rank", and certainly, I do not believe that such is the greatest of ideas. However.... Hm. You give me an idea.

[postal105]

oh no duck and cover some one gave Decoy an idea.

[Mr. Danvers]

I'll chuck my 2p in if it's permitted? :)

 

Welcome back Decoy. You won't know who I am, but I remember you :D.

 

You underestimate me, Danvers. I remember reading something of yours. While my memory is far from perfect, I do remember your name.

 

 

You raise valid concerns. I understand your point completely, brother, and regardless of your post count, a brother you are. Too many of us rely on post count to determine "rank", and certainly, I do not believe that such is the greatest of ideas. However.... Hm. You give me an idea.

 

Whenever someone utters the phrase 'You give me an idea.' I always get a sudden feeling of dread..... ;)

[Forté]

oh no duck and cover some one gave Decoy an idea.

Forget ducking...where's the exit :lol:

 

Good points Mr Danvers. As a relative newcomer, I can whole heartedly say that anyone dismissing others ideas and posts on the basis of post count deserves a long time out locked with the squigs. I'm a prime example of 'post count'. Mine is high because I love the banter and also feel that if someone posts something which has entertained or inspired me or even in the very rare occasions, something I could possibly help with...I'll post. Other don't and neither should they feel any pressure too.

 

I myself hate it where someone posts up a list that they're thinking of trying and then they get told to take more ML long fangs and never to use Bloodclaws. The best thing is variety and standardizing everything becomes sterile and boaring (like a Dark Angel birthday party). Unfortunately, anything you do could offend someone somewhere. That's what apologies are for when needed.

[Jonas Stromclaw]

. Jonas, the Emmett-Brown-style weirdo.

Aww shucks brother, thanks, although I'm wondering exactly what it was that earned me that epithet. Hey, anyone know where I can find a model Delorian? I have a conversion idea for a Rhino!

 

@ Mr. Danvers: brother, I hope I have not in any way made you feel alienated here, and if I have, I apologise.

[Decoy]

. Jonas, the Emmett-Brown-style weirdo.

Aww shucks brother, thanks, although I'm wondering exactly what it was that earned me that epithet. Hey, anyone know where I can find a model Delorian? I have a conversion idea for a Rhino!

 

@ Mr. Danvers: brother, I hope I have not in any way made you feel alienated here, and if I have, I apologise.

 

 

Oh, epithet nothing, Jonas. The Revered Doctor Brown is, in my humble opinion, one of the finest scientific minds of the 1980s and 2010s 1950s and the 1880s to ever have lived! (Quite honestly, he's like my most favorite movie character ever. :lol: Quirky yet a genius.)

[postal105]

Hey, anyone know where I can find a model Delorian? I have a conversion idea for a Rhino!

i found you one on ebay check it out here :lol: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BACK-FUTURE-III-De...3-/200553908630

[commander alexander]

I myself am trying to take a more active role in greeting newcomers, and I agree with much of what you have said Decoy. As far as lurkers being miffed, I can understand being an older, silent member and being miffed about being called a blood claw by other members. In fact I said in another topic relating to..... "THE Incedent", that this is a fictional game world, and we can be whatever we want. In the fluff and stoires, it might be worth considering shooting members a PM before you portray them as something their not. This is something I'm trying to do right now to include some new characters in my additions to "More Tales From the Fang". However, I do not in the least understand why someone will get upset for being left out if they make no effort to actively participate themselves. Members need to meet halway for involving others, and trying to be involved.

[MonSTeR]

I’m going to jump in here, I’m one of the ones who posted on what others would say was the “other” side during the ”incident”.

 

And what I find most interesting is that the actual point seems to have been missed by a lot of the members in this thread.

 

Firstly what I said was not meant to divide the forum, it was meant to unite it. The problem lay in the fact that certain members (regardless of how long they’d been here, or how many posts they had made) felt it was appropriate for them to be able to dictate to other members how “the Fang”, in other words the “Space Wolves subforum”, runs and throw around terms such as “earn rank” and “true wolves” and that therein is the problem.

 

The more active members do not have the right and should not have the right to, in effect, bully other members by excluding them, telling them they have to “earn” their rank and so on. The exclusion doesn’t come from members not being written into someone else’s fanfiction, it doesn’t come from them missing out on a deadline to join a “tavern brawl game” it doesn’t come from them not taking up a painting challenge. The exclusion comes from posting outside those specific threads in a fashion that should be within them and letting what happens in those threads spill out into the rest of the forum, and in such a way as to suggest that those threads have actual bearing on the rest of the forum. Because quite simply they don’t. I’m not saying they’re not fun for those involved, but they’re nothing to do with the subforum as a whole.

 

If folks want to role-play then that’s fine, but those same folks have to realise that they are not the rule book, they are not the games-master, they are not in charge. It’s not ok to say “you can’t be *insert wolfy term here* because you haven’t been in our club long enough, because you haven’t done the secret initiation, because you aren’t in the clique”.

 

Basically, “you can’t pretend to be a Space Wolf unless you pretend by our rules...”

 

It’s not for any members to determine a hierarchy here as has been done, whether intentionally or not.

 

 

So I would ask this of the forum, if folks want to role play which some do and that's great, then set up a dedicated sticky topic here, and have the stories, have the brawls, have whatever, but don’t let it spill out into the rest of the forum. If you’re a “blood claw” in the brawls or the stories that’s fine, but in the rest of the forum try to remember that you’re just another member, like I am, like anyone else is.

 

We are a community, but not all of the members want to play a role playing game in the forums, not all of the members want to write or read fanfiction, not all of the members want to pretend to be characters from a game. Some folks just want to discuss a wargame with players who collect the same army.

 

And NEITHER side should try to stop the other from doing what they want, there’s room for both, here but don’t try to force the two to overlap. Frankly speaking it’s very rare for games mechanics to interfere with people posting about passing each other imaginary flagons of ale, but until recently it was not uncommon for folks to take the RPG aspect a bit too far and let it spill over into other perhaps less imaginative threads.

 

In closing I say this. Everyone here loves WH40K and loves the chapter. But not all of the members have any desire to take that outside of the game itself, so just like you wouldn’t pretend to be a Space Wolf in front of your teacher, or your boss, or your girlfriend’s USMC veteran father, don’t pretend you’re a Space Wolf in front of the rest of the forum and don’t go around telling other members can’t be one either unless they play by your rules in your special club house.

[Crimson Devil]

Speaking from my own experience. I've been on the B&C for quite awhile, but I don't post all that much. So it wouldn't surprise me if none of you recognized me.

 

While I don't have any problem per say with the role-playing threads, I even did some lite RPing in the Fang myself. The tone of the SW forum was getting rather obnoxious. Which led me to ignore the Fang for almost a year now. Consequently I missed this incident you speak of. If the role-playing could be kept confined to properly labeled threads or even a sub-forum so those that wished to join and participate could, and those that wish to avoid it can. I don't think this is really an either or situation.

[commander alexander]

On the particular note of fan-fiction or fluff, should it be allowed to stay? Should it only be allowed if it doesn't include members? What say you on this topic?

[Forté]

On the particular note of fan-fiction or fluff, should it be allowed to stay? Should it only be allowed if it doesn't include members? What say you on this topic?

Fiction is still a form of creativity and if it wasn't for the stories in Codexes and Black Library books then I doubt there would be so many people playing GW games. These can often lead to modeling opportunities too and the desire to add a unit or even just get a game in.

 

As for other comments re stickied sub forum. I don't believe this is needed as most tales/ rpg descriptive stuff is usually well labled. I do agree with the other view of not letting the RP spill over to other topics and I know I have been guilty of this and for it I apologise.

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Hi decoy good to see you back