Wolfstanus Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 So fare this is what I have. Can't think of a name Possible names Crusaders Fists Void Knights Knights Vigilant Astral Hands Malevolent Knights Thunder bearers Chapter name ???? Badge is going to be of a open hand or fist Around 900 battle brothers Founding chapter Imperial Fists They venerate all Primarchs Recruits from Random planets they visit or ships including the Imperial Guard. Their colors are. Dark red with gold trim. Black shoulders, head, fists and lower legs/feet 400 marines remain with the main fleet that has their monastery Litany of Hate. The main fleet handles all major crusades. Specialize is ship boarding. bombardments. Their armor is mostly made up of mk2-6 armor and vehicles are of the same era. They find new parts and gear by boarding space hulks and ancient battle sites. This has given them a reputation of grave robbers Current size is around 900. A strike cruiser carrying 22 brothers was lost in the warp and company and a half being lost in the current black crusade and various battles. Chapter Hates the Ordos Hereticus and believes most of them to be incompetent fools. and since they stay on the very edges of Imperial space the Ordos Hereticus largely leaves them alone. They are a ???? founding chapter and have inherited most gene flaws of their parent chapter but somewhat are corrected. These corrections are heavily guarded secrets. Betcher's Gland works but is limited in potency. Omophagea does not work. Sus-an Membrane Functions but will sometimes react to the smallest of injury but this is a rarity Chapter Master Quote "Be proud of your chapter and your brothers be they with us or not. Be proud of those who came before you. Have pride in the fact we all share this heritage" Battle cry "For the Emperor and those who have fallen." Current Crusade is the Purgation Crusade in witch they are currently fighting Orks and Eldar on a Grave World. a full company was sent to eradicate them but lost the strike cruiser Emperors Justice in the warp getting there. Pilgrimage site is an ash world. That used to be vibrant unroll the heresy. Neophyte are required to survive a week on the planet and find a relic of the past be a weapon, armor or a shell. If they survive the week and bring something identifiable the get their final implants. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246842-my-chapter-im-working-on/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Have you considered the possibility of making this a Cursed Founding (21st) Chapter that corrected the gene-seed deficiencies of the Imperial Fists? The downside of using that founding is that the lore establishes that all Chapters from that founding have some sort of gene-seed mutation and that they are slowly dying off. As far as names go, I'd personally avoid using the names that include "hands" or "fists" as that just seems so obvious. The counter to that is that most Chapters that use badges with those images tend to incorporate the words, so I'm just being iconoclastic. I like Knights Vigilant and Thunder Bearers, though the latter would require some explanation given the lack of relevant imagery in the Chapter badge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246842-my-chapter-im-working-on/#findComment-2988083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfstanus Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 I thought about it but don't really like the bad luck all the time after a. Major victory. Also BA OR SW codex for the chapter? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246842-my-chapter-im-working-on/#findComment-2988637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Another vote for Knights Vigilant as the Chapter name. It's got a nice ring to it, while still retaining some Imperial Fist feel by way of the Black Templars. They'd actually be a good way to connect your Chapter to Rogal Dorn and his gene-seed, to be founded from the Black Templars. As for Codex, that's really up to you and what you'd have the most fun playing. Only thing I'd suggest is that you come up for some fluff reasoning behind your choice. Each Codex has Codex-specific units, like the Death Company or Fenrisian Wolves. You could either not field any of those kinds of units, or you could give some sort of explanation for why your Chapter fields units that could counts-as. Like maybe you have Kennelmasters who field modified mastiffs that could count as Wolves, or maybe you have a glory-hungry cult that's grown to such eminence in your Chapter that they're fielded together as a counts-as Death Company that charges blindly to battle. As for which Founding, you can choose whichever you want, really. The Cursed Founding was one specifically designed to tweak gene-seeds, so it's an easy one to choose if you have corrected or altered gene-seed. However, you could always say yours was just a fluke, that the pool of gene-seed used to create yours was in the most part more pure than the majority of Imperial Fist gene-seed. Gene-seed impurities aren't universal, anyways, as far as I know. Not all Imperial Fists have these problems, just the vast majority of them. When the gene-seed was selected from the tithed stores, maybe they chose only from those that were more pure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246842-my-chapter-im-working-on/#findComment-2988773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfstanus Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 Ok going with Knights Vigilant Guess I will have to work out rules later on. http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/7241/63524476.jpg I cuttently have have a rhino, a terminator squad, 4 tac squads, assault squad, scout squad. terminator Chaplin, terminator librarian, librarian, chaplain, 2 captains, Emperors champion, a dreadnaught, and venerable dreadnaught I was going to use these forge world models. MKIC DEIMOS PATTERN RHINO, MKIIB LAND RAIDER, DEIMOS PATTERN PREDATOR both variants, MKIC DEIMOS PATTERN RHINO various patterns, RELIC CONTEMPTOR DREADNOUGHT, MkIV dreads and the various MK2-6 squads Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246842-my-chapter-im-working-on/#findComment-2989352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Impressive sir! It sounds like you need to get to painting! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246842-my-chapter-im-working-on/#findComment-2992022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfstanus Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 This is my 3rd Marine I ever painted. Wanted to do my own chapter so Knights Vigilant is the Chapter. First 2 were Imperial Fists. But shelved the marines because money among other things. As you can see hes not pretty at all. But I tried a few things that im not used to doing. Also need to thin the paint . http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/470/image1ax.jpg My other 2 are way better me thinks. (can't find my scout) http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7821/seargentmk82.jpg http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1613/seargentmk83.jpg http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8576/seargentmk84.jpg http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9944/seargentmk85.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246842-my-chapter-im-working-on/#findComment-2992369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfstanus Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 This is more fluff I'm making while at work. Chapter believes that the emperor will make a return. They don't know when or how but they believe the time is coming. They also believe the primarchs that stayed loyal to the emperor will also return. So they Re preparing the only way they know how. By keeping the hordes at bay and securing as many relics as they can to prepare for his return and to save what's left of the past. (think of them like the knights Templars in the way they searched for holy relics) in doing this they preserve the past to prepare for the future so to quicken the imperiums recovery and to prevent repeating the past. Because of their preservation of the past they have amassed a large amount of pre heresy weapons, aircraft, ships armor from all legions. They mostly return armor and weapons to their respective chapters. But they keep things from the legions that went traitor. Thus the hatred of the hereticus comes to play. Since they collect everything they can they end up collecting records. The records told them not all from the traitor legions where traitors. But the hereticus want all relics from those legions destroyed. This blatant dire guard for the loyalists of those legions smacks at their beliefs and a number of relics they have seen be destroyed by inquisitors has made the chapter view them with distrust, and hatred for them. Thus they have killed many hereticus when the agents get in the way of their relic hunting. They claim enemy action or traps to be the agents cause of death ( they would do this when they other have the inquisitor alone or when he's engaged with the enemy. Their librarians are known as "ancient hunters" as they are the ones who guide the chapter to relics other usefully to the chapter or imperium. If a item is found to be corrupt they try to purify it and if that fails a chaplain will other destroy the item or in some classes the librarian. They tend to refrain from using scouts in most combat situations and instead use them for recon only and are not to engage enemy forces unless they have to. Chaplins are used pretty much like standard. But tend to lead crusades and are keepers of the relics. The oldest Chaplin is given the title is known as the keeper. His duty is to guard the relics and speak litanies over all the relics of the chapter. Along with his apprentice. Tech marines keep extensive records or the spare parts and what they go to. So they can other repair/rebuild or put it together when they have enough parts for it. They also take care of the relics to make sure each is in proper working order no matter it's age. (only the forge master does the last and only with the high Chaplin and their apprentices.) I have decided that the pigllgramage world be made their home planet. Their fortress monastery is a ancient crashed forge ship from the crusade. They have various fortresses around the planet that are the remains of other ships. The planet is coverd in ash and glass. The glass areas are called the glass lands the rest is called the wastes the north and south poles are somewhat livable and the northern pole is where the forge ship is. I also changed the chapters crusade method. They separate into into normal 1 company crusades lead by the chaplains and librarians in a never ending quest to gather lost records and other relics. They keep the crusade era armor to remind the imperium of the past unfortunately it has gotten them confused at times. As for founding 2, 12, 15, or 26, only because today's my birthday and these foundings match my birthday witch was on the 15th Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246842-my-chapter-im-working-on/#findComment-2993897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Hello and welcome in the Liber. The bellow are my thoughts on the matter, I'm bit a lot harsh in my responses, but I'm not doing this with evil intention. Because of their preservation of the past they have amassed a large amount of pre heresy weapons, aircraft, ships armor from all legions. They mostly return armor and weapons to their respective chapters. But they keep things from the legions that went traitor. Thus the hatred of the hereticus comes to play. Since they collect everything they can they end up collecting records. The records told them not all from the traitor legions were traitors. But the hereticus want all relics from those legions destroyed. This blatant dire guard for the loyalists of those legions smacks at their beliefs and a number of relics they have seen be destroyed by inquisitors has made the chapter view them with distrust, and hatred for them. Thus they have killed many hereticus when the agents get in the way of their relic hunting. They claim enemy action or traps to be the agents cause of death ( they would do this when they other have the inquisitor alone or when he's engaged with the enemy. Eh... I sort of don't get the talk about loyalists from traitor legions. Yes, there were loyalists, but these guys are already dead for long time. :huh: Ordo Hereticus (and Ordo Malleus) hunts and destroys (well... :unsure: ) relics of Traitor Legions, because these things are most likely tainted by the Chaos or possessed by daemon. It's not exactly smart to keep such thing in your closet. In all honesty, leave the Inquisition out of this. There is thread in Amicus about Inquisitorial philosophies, it will give you good idea in what messy situation you are getting yourself. Their librarians are known as "ancient hunters" as they are the ones who guide the chapter to relics other usefully to the chapter or imperium. If a item is found to be corrupt they try to purify it and if that fails a chaplain will other destroy the item or in some classes the librarian. Hypocrisy too much? They tend to refrain from using scouts in most combat situations and instead use them for recon only and are not to engage enemy forces unless they have to. Eh, the Space Marine Scouts are like Alamo Scouts from WWII. Chaplins are used pretty much like standard. But tend to lead crusades and are keepers of the relics. The oldest Chaplin is given the title is known as the keeper. His duty is to guard the relics and speak litanies over all the relics of the chapter. Along with his apprentice. ChaplAins for the Emperor's sake! Chaplin was english comedy film actor and director. They also take care of the relics to make sure each is in proper working order no matter it's age. (only the forge master does the last and only with the high Chaplin and their apprentices.) ... and the Apothecaries take care of the health of the relics and ensure they are in good physical shape. Wait... what?!?! :blink: I also changed the chapters crusade method. They separate into into normal 1 company crusades lead by the chaplains and librarians in a never ending quest to gather lost records and other relics. They keep the crusade era armor to remind the imperium of the past unfortunately it has gotten them confused at times. Hmmm... these traits resemble the Blood Ravens with a little of Consecrators for good measure. It's not bad thing, just that you should know. + If they are so concerned with the past, then they should feel... not hate, hatred is something which takes root over time... something fresh like anger, fury or grief. In their minds, they are still here, when the fires at Terra are still burning, the Dorn has returned with broken body of Emperor just yesterday and now it's time to seek absolution and repentance. It should be battle with hounds of ancient sins in order to break from the chains of the past, instead of "Let's be Indiana Jones in Space" deal. What I'm trying to say; Mix here a little of Dark Angels. As for founding 2, 12, 15, or 26, only because today's my birthday and these foundings match my birthday witch was on the 15th It's 16th around here already, but happy birthday! ~NightrawenII. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246842-my-chapter-im-working-on/#findComment-2993983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfstanus Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 Hello and welcome in the Liber.The bellow are my thoughts on the matter, I'm bit a lot harsh in my responses, but I'm not doing this with evil intention. Its all good. Actually like honest and to the point. Rather than "Oh this is cool awesome job" I do allot of brainstorming at work because there not much to do when you get everything done as early as you can. Eh...I sort of don't get the talk about loyalists from traitor legions. Yes, there were loyalists, but these guys are already dead for long time. ;) Ordo Hereticus (and Ordo Malleus) hunts and destroys (well... :lol: ) relics of Traitor Legions, because these things are most likely tainted by the Chaos or possessed by daemon. It's not exactly smart to keep such thing in your closet. In all honesty, leave the Inquisition out of this. There is thread in Amicus about Inquisitorial philosophies, it will give you good idea in what messy situation you are getting yourself. More renegade I was thinking. (colors of armor and how old it is.) and righto will try to keep them out of it. Generally they are but not all. Hypocrisy too much? Was supposed to be chaplains a cases. stupid phone I swear. In my head I had worked it out as saying destroy what you can't save just to keep it out of xenos/heretics etc hands. If you can't destroy it seal it. Eh, the Space Marine Scouts are like Alamo Scouts from WWII. From what I see and read of the scouts they get thrown around like cannon fodder... So I have grown to think... maybe keep them away from major fighting that would see most of them killed needlesly. I pretty much have the thing in my head. If they are your future etc to the survival of your chapter why have them fight impossible odd that will most likely see them all dead? ChaplAins for the Emperor's sake! Chaplin was english comedy film actor and director. Damn phone again. replacing words with other things sorta kinda not related. ... and the Apothecaries take care of the health of the relics and ensure they are in good physical shape. Wait... what?!?! ;) Nah they take care of the head. :P No but the chaplains basically make sure the stuff is clean what not with help from the techmarines. I swear this stuff made since when I was at work. now im home and tired im thinking... The heck I put this down. Hmmm... these traits resemble the Blood Ravens with a little of Consecrators for good measure. It's not bad thing, just that you should know.+ If they are so concerned with the past, then they should feel... not hate, hatred is something which takes root over time... something fresh like anger, fury or grief. In their minds, they are still here, when the fires at Terra are still burning, the Dorn has returned with broken body of Emperor just yesterday and now it's time to seek absolution and repentance. It should be battle with hounds of ancient sins in order to break from the chains of the past, instead of "Let's be Indiana Jones in Space" deal. What I'm trying to say; Mix here a little of Dark Angels. Was not thinking about ether chapters. I just think preserving as much of the past is a good thing. Learn from it so it helps prevent it from repeating. Disregard of the past is a thing that generates hate. "Oh this was bad delete it" "Or oh hey look this is really old throw it away or its just a piece of a old engine." Or hey thunderhawks are new lets use those instead of the better sturdier stormbirds. Or mechanicus way of doing things lets horde all the things we know and to it so well we actualy forget it even exists" Basically thought of it like this. They hold back the hordes at the border go on crusades to kill orks and take what's no longer secure when they get there they secure and keep it so its not a face palm moment latter when suddenly out of the blue a xenos or heretic ends up using it against the Imperium. Also some of this stuff can be reversed engineered by the mechanicus or techmarines. simpler stuff that is. Penance for slowly ever so slowly for failing in protecting the Imperium. Its a fare cry from what it used to be and its crumbling. Ill have to read up on dark angels some more its been a year or two since I read anything about them. Was thinking about using their codex anyways. Thanks for the honesty in your post. Will rework this later then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246842-my-chapter-im-working-on/#findComment-2994029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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