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Primarch: Konrad Curze

Legion: Night Lords

Reason Why (Primarch): Konrad Curze suffered from mental illnesses and visions of the future. This seems interesting and really cool. He depended on himself to survive on his planet and used fear as a tool, not a weapon. He became an ultimate badass just because he fought crime on his home planet.

Reason Why (Legion): The Night Lords decorate themselves in skulls and fear markings, making them appear scary. Thats just real cool and badass. They use tons of Jump troops and i find that appealing to me. I just love NL.

The Lion !!!!!

 

The First !!!!!

 

Because he snotted Russ, sparking a 10,000 yr grudge boxing match.

Originally (2nd Ed.), they were THE green space marines, which is my favourite colour, then I bought Codex: AoD then all their fluff was sweet and I've been with the 1st ever since.

 

Cheers,

Jono

Primarch: Corax.

Legion: Raven Guard. (although I like certain aspects of almost every Legion)

 

Reason (Primarch): Corax was the ultimate tactician, and because he also came from a humble beginning and was a man of the people. I also like his ability to adapt and overcome.

Reason (Legion): I like the surgical strike aspect of warfare, and to me, no one Legion personified this more than the Raven Guard. Their great use of tactics and no-nonsense approach to war appeals greatly to me.

Primarch: Alpharius

Legion: Alpha Legion

 

Cause the unknown and being all secerative gives things such awsomeness. Plus the whole Cabal conspiracy just adds another layer of cloaks and daggers. An who dosent like the one guy who turned bad, to destroy humanity and save the entire universe in the long run.

Primarch: Guiliman

Legion: Ultramarines

 

Why Guiliman and Ultras?:

I can't remember who it was but someone on here had a quote in their sig with something along the lines of: Being at the siege of Terra and holding in the face of overwhelming numbers is good, but being sent to the other side of the universe because you were feared is so much better. Blue > Yellow.

I know people hate Guiliman and the Ultras (I can sort of understand) but they appeal to my tactical sense, I love the way that they have rules about how to approch a certain situation and how they should go about it. Guiliman also had is whole 'stotic and unsmiling' thing going on, and I really like that. A great tactician/logistician who is not as emotional as his brothers (Logar comes to mind) and will just brush off anthing that is irrelevent.

Plus, the Ultras were based on the Roman Legions and I love the Roman Legions.

Primarch: Konrad Curze

 

Legion: Night Lords

 

Why: It's a legion made up of evil batman! What's not to love?

 

I agree. Nighthaunter FTW!!! oh and i totally think that they are based on batman. Explanation: Nostramo was taken over by crooks. Gotham was taken over by crooks. Batman fights crime. Konrad fights crime. They both use terror tactics. They both look scary. They are both totally dark and cruel. WIN!

The Dark Angels

 

Lionel Johnson

 

The Ultimate strategist, the best general. His Victories were only competed by Horus and Leman Russ. He was the Warrior King of old, a liege among knights. Honor was something he greatly respected.

 

The duality of the Dark Angels and their mysticism. The drive to accomplish the impossible task. They are the 1st, the sons of the Lion!

Primarch: Rogal Dorn

 

Legion: Imperial Fists

 

Why? I started with the fists back in 2nd edition when I started to build my first Marine army, I love the look of the Imperial Fists in the Epic stuff and nobody I played with played them. Then it became much more about their fluff and the fluff of Dorn himself, Stubborn, Brilliant, Defenders of Holy Terra itself!

Primarch - Vulkan

Legion - Salamanders

 

Why the Legion? The Salamanders doctrine has an emphasis on loyalty and self sacrifice. From this they try to look after the Imperial citizens during conflicts; One of the most famous examples being when they defended the supply convoys and refugees during the 2nd War for Armageddon.

As I'm partial to a bit of flambéed cultist, I like their preference for the close range firefights, using more flamer and melta weapons than the average chapter.

 

Why the Primarch? Although there's not really all that much fluff regarding Vulkan relative to the others, I tend to think of him as a taciturn Primarch; speaking only when necessary and having looked at the task from all angles.

Scattering his 9 relics across the galaxy to be found by his Chapter is a good challenge for them too. Dedication in their service, not giving up even under almost impossible odds...

It also brings to mind a Forgefather called Vulkan Anikaus He'Rice clambering in and out of a Thunderhawk following the mostly useless directions from a couple of Imperial Citizens on the battle barge. Oh, and a camera crew getting a good shot of his 'salamander hide' during said clambering. :P

Primarch-Magnus the Red

Legion-Thousand Sons

Reason Why (Primarch)- Magnus was the greatest Primarch- a supreme Psyker, an almighty warrior, and an even greater thinker. He had a great dream that would have been realised if not for Nikea. He planned for the future of Astartes post-crusade, and was generally just awesome

Reason Why(Legion)- A Thousand Sons, that's why.

Primarch: Konrad Curze

 

Legion: Night Lords

 

Why: It's a legion made up of evil batman! What's not to love?

 

I agree. Nighthaunter FTW!!! oh and i totally think that they are based on batman. Explanation: Nostramo was taken over by crooks. Gotham was taken over by crooks. Batman fights crime. Konrad fights crime. They both use terror tactics. They both look scary. They are both totally dark and cruel. WIN!

I think he's actually based more on the character of Kurtz from Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad. Better known as Colonel Kurtz from the film Apocalypse Now, obviously. Kurtz, especially in the movie, is seen as a character who became willing to take whatever means necessary and eventually succumbed to his own evil and became vicious, debased, and uncivilized. That's the short form description of the character, but I'll leave you to dive deeper into it on your own initiative. I think Curze would be my favorite Primarch if they did a really good book about him. So far, he seems a little too cartoonish at times; a mustache twirler.

 

I don't know if I really have a favorite primarch or legion. I find some of them more intriguing than others just because they are a little more three dimensional and don't just slot easily into a stereotype or cliche, but I feel like mentioning which invites too much contentious debate.

Primarch: Konrad Curze

 

Legion: Night Lords

 

Why: It's a legion made up of evil batman! What's not to love?

 

I agree. Nighthaunter FTW!!! oh and i totally think that they are based on batman. Explanation: Nostramo was taken over by crooks. Gotham was taken over by crooks. Batman fights crime. Konrad fights crime. They both use terror tactics. They both look scary. They are both totally dark and cruel. WIN!

I think he's actually based more on the character of Kurtz from Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad. Better known as Colonel Kurtz from the film Apocalypse Now, obviously. Kurtz, especially in the movie, is seen as a character who became willing to take whatever means necessary and eventually succumbed to his own evil and became vicious, debased, and uncivilized. That's the short form description of the character, but I'll leave you to dive deeper into it on your own initiative. I think Curze would be my favorite Primarch if they did a really good book about him. So far, he seems a little too cartoonish at times; a mustache twirler.

 

I don't know if I really have a favorite primarch or legion. I find some of them more intriguing than others just because they are a little more three dimensional and don't just slot easily into a stereotype or cliche, but I feel like mentioning which invites too much contentious debate.

 

Well I know that... but I still think his FIGHTING style, LOOKS, and HISTORY seem pretty batman-like...

I'm going to differ a bit, in that at present my favorite Primarch and favorite legion don't line up.

 

Primarch: As per the below, I suspect that if we get to see a bit more of Vulkan, he'll be my number one, I really like what we've seen so far. But as things stand, Guilliman. Supreme intellect, vision, sense of duty, and ability to implement plans. Or maybe Horus. Or Alpharius. Or Sanguinus. Or....

 

Legion: The Salamanders. Liked them the most since I read that they were a chapter who valued craftsmanship, and their connection to the human race. That they live amongst the people of their planet and go out of their way to protect civilians. The contrast of their being the most humane legion and looking the most inhuman with their pitch black skin and red eyes is ace. That they like burning stuff, have a cool quest-for-relics theme, and cracking color scheme seals the deal.

Primarch: I can't really pick one since they were all great at certain aspects and wouldn't feel right to pick one.

 

Legion: Raven Guard, because of their stealth tactics and plus how awesome they are in the books. My only beef with them is their Native Americany feel, which I don't see fitting in with their style.

Primarch: Sanguinius

 

Legion: Blood Angels

 

Why Sanguinius? Horus himself said Sanguinius should have been warmaster. He has the most of the Emperor, he is humble, he grew from humble beginnings, he has angel wings, he can see the future, he knew he would die, and still fought on, and during that fight:

*He broke a greater daemon's back.

*He faced down his own favored brother and refused to give in. He fought him knowing he would die.

*Beside the Emperor, he has the greatest monuments and even has a holy day named after him.

He is also said to be one of the only equals to Angron in combat.

 

Why the Blood Angels? They, like their father, are a humble, noble people. During the Great Crusade they fought with Sanguinius, and after they had the toughest war of all.l They had to fight themselves, their very own souls to survive. They have to fight against the rage that holds them, and they must overcome it. They are heroic, and they lead by example. They also adopted Guilliman's codex, seeing it as the new future. They are understanding.

I'm going to differ a bit, in that at present my favorite Primarch and favorite legion don't line up.

 

lol... Actually that was the point of the thread... I wanted people to write down their FSVORITE Legion and FAVORITE Primarch and i didn't say anything about them lining up or anything... People just took it that way

I think he's actually based more on the character of Kurtz from Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad. Better known as Colonel Kurtz from the film Apocalypse Now, obviously. Kurtz, especially in the movie, is seen as a character who became willing to take whatever means necessary and eventually succumbed to his own evil and became vicious, debased, and uncivilized. That's the short form description of the character, but I'll leave you to dive deeper into it on your own initiative. I think Curze would be my favorite Primarch if they did a really good book about him. So far, he seems a little too cartoonish at times; a mustache twirler.

 

I don't know if I really have a favorite primarch or legion. I find some of them more intriguing than others just because they are a little more three dimensional and don't just slot easily into a stereotype or cliche, but I feel like mentioning which invites too much contentious debate.

 

Well I know that... but I still think his FIGHTING style, LOOKS, and HISTORY seem pretty batman-like...

 

But Konrad Curze lacked that one thing that made Batman Batman, and that's a relentless dedication to his code. Batman never breaks or bends, and Curze does. What Batman never ceases to fight, Curze eventually succumbs to. Wolverine or the Punisher would be a more appropriate similarity to the Night Haunter. Maybe if it was just Konrad Curze, and there was no Night Haunter, he'd be more similar to Batman.

 

As for my own favorite . . . I have no favorites. It was the Ultramarines and their Roman Legion style that first drew me to 40k, and it was the Space Wolves that kept me interested enough to explore it, but at this point I love all the 18 Primarchs and their Legions for all their virtues and faults. In general I'm a Loyalist fan, but thanks to the Horus Heresy I've had a growing appreciation for the other Legions. Including the Emperor's Children and the Death Guard, though I find Slaaneshi/Nurgle aesthetics rather unpleasant to look upon.

Which goes to show why all my DIY stuff is all over the place. Instead of having a favorite I can modify for my own interests, I have a desire to apply my own personal touch to everything.

 

 

Legion: Raven Guard, because of their stealth tactics and plus how awesome they are in the books. My only beef with them is their Native Americany feel, which I don't see fitting in with their style.

 

I thought the Dark Angels were the ones with the Native Americany feel? What with the Deathwing and all.

Primarch: Leman Russ

 

 

Legion: Space Wolves

 

 

Why? Beer, Fun loving attitude! But also their belief in what's right and what's wrong within the Imperium This is seen quite well in Tales of heresy

 

 

Of the others I liked were Horus and Dorn

The Lion !!!!!

 

The First !!!!!

 

Because he snotted Russ, sparking a 10,000 yr grudge boxing match.

Originally (2nd Ed.), they were THE green space marines, which is my favourite colour, then I bought Codex: AoD then all their fluff was sweet and I've been with the 1st ever since.

 

They were only green because someone cocked up the artwork on the box art for the Space Marine game. Before that they were always black and IMO looked infinitely better that way. When Rogue Trader was first published I painted up a small squad of Dark Angel beaky marines but ended up going with the red of my beloved Blood Angels and have followed them ever since. Hence...

 

Primarch: Sanguinius

Legion: IX

Reason (Primarch): Noble, pure, beautiful, the closest thing to the Emperor short of the Big E himself. Plus he was a badass with angel wings!

Reason (Legion): Love the mix of nobility and bloodthirst. Having to keep a tight rein on themselves to prevent slipping over the edge.

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