smellyfox Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Hi, sorry if this has been done before, but I couldn't find anything at a glance. Has anyone ever tried to use a small fineliner to do scroll and banner work, and if so what type of pen should I look for? Thanks in advance! Smellyfox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246923-using-pens/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellyfox Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 Further searching has revealed that some people use "micron pens". Sorry for not finding this before, the search function crashed when is searched "pen" but just searched "pens" and it worked fine, doh! Do I have to prepare the painted area before using, or are they ok to use ontop of the paint? Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246923-using-pens/#findComment-2988967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I use fine line pens for all sorts of things, and I can attest to how great they are for doing things like tiny script, tattoos, lining armour plates, pupil dots in eyes, etc.. Most brands come in a wide range of colours too, so you have some choice beyond Black. To get really fine pens you'll need to go to a well stocked Art Store, if you're looking locally. The brand I use is 'Pigma Micron - #1 Archival Ink', but naturally there are other brands. Be sure to get a permanent waterproof ink or you will have to wait much longer for it to dry, and it will be prone to rubbing off if it's not sealed with varnish. Also, make sure it's a 'felt tip' pen, and not a 'ball point' tip. Ball point tips need to roll to work well, and they will frustrate you on a miniature's hard surface. Odds are you'll be looking for a size 005 (0.2mm wide), size 02 (0.3mm wide), or size 03 (0.35mm wide). These are the sizes I have, but I use the 005 the most. Especially, if you're using 005's, be sure to get a few extra, and inspect them before you buy, if you can. As you can imagine, the tips on these pens are very small/delicate, and dropping it tip-down just once will most likely ruin the pen. A few other things worth noting; Waterproof ink uses a solvent to keep the ink liquid. That solvent can ever-so-slightly soften the paint your using the pen on. It won't be enough to harm your paint job, or anything nasty like that. But, it is enough to get the tip of the pen 'clogged' with a trace of paint residue. This will cause the pen to become annoying, and not draw consistent lines. Just keep a piece of paper handy, and when this happens draw a few long lines on the paper. That will 'wipe the tip clean' and get the ink flowing smoothly again. Finally, when you use one these pens on a non-porous surface (Read: acrylic paint) they will dry with a noticeable glossiness. Some Matt or Satin varnish will take that way, and get it to blend nicely with the surrounding surface. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246923-using-pens/#findComment-2988973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellyfox Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 Thanks for the help! Will give them a go. Smellyfox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246923-using-pens/#findComment-2989028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I use them. Here's what I use, Faber Castell EccoPigment 0.1mm Drawing Pen http://www.panelkirtasiye.com/ProductImages/91866/original/u151-1.jpg Here's the result Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246923-using-pens/#findComment-2989030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I use Deleter Neopiko-Line-2, acid-free pigment ink, water proof ink. As Subtle Discord said, there are different sizes but of course the finer you can get, the better. I use 003's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246923-using-pens/#findComment-2989053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellyfox Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 Just picked up some Faber Castell PITT artist pens. Had a quick go and they work great (much better than my small brush anyway)! Just got the black ones but they do a nice sepia too which I think Ill get too. Thanks for all the tips folks! Smellyfox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246923-using-pens/#findComment-2989066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmbattledSoul Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 edit... foot in mouth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246923-using-pens/#findComment-3004624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Further searching has revealed that some people use "micron pens". This is what I use. Pigma Micron the result: The entire sword/wing motif was made using one on the shoulder motif. They do have other colors, including sepia.I found that rather than actually "writing" the lines, you want to sort of dab and glide. Does the takes any sense? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246923-using-pens/#findComment-3006092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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