ANCIENT FALOR Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Just wanted to post a few things James Swallow mentioned concerning the novel. 1) there will be word bearers in novel. 2) the Red Angel will be explored. 3) Amit, founder of the flesh tearers, plays an important role in novel. as well as other successor characters. 4) the story will cross many worlds in the Signus cluster besides Signus Prime 5) Roldoron will also play a major role. 6) The BA libarians will have plenty to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Please say Azkaellon is totally ignored and retconned out entirely? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANCIENT FALOR Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Please say Azkaellon is totally ignored and retconned out entirely? There was no mention of that. I think it is. As its in the BA codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 6) The BA libarians will have plenty to do. Now that is interesting. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANCIENT FALOR Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 6) The BA libarians will have plenty to do. Now that is interesting. WLK Yes it is interesting. It's like Mhotep vs Wsoric times a hundred. Makes sense as some of the BA had to have inherited their primarchs psychic potencial. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Just wanted to post a few things James Swallow mentioned concerning the novel. 1) there will be word bearers in novel. 2) the Red Angel will be explored. 3) Amit, founder of the flesh tearers, plays an important role in novel. as well as other successor characters. 4) the story will cross many worlds in the Signus cluster besides Signus Prime 5) Roldoron will also play a major role. 6) The BA libarians will have plenty to do. Maybe the Word Bearers convert a couple of Blood Angels Librarians to Chaos who have to be put down by the loyalists lest they bring dishonour to the Blood Angels probably not but then again I reckon it could be awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Týr Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 That sounds good. I'm really looking forward to this novel, I fear it's not going to be as good as Know no Fear (simply because Swallow is not as good a writer as Abnett in my opinion). But I still feel the whole thing is completely open. Another thing I fear is how the action in the novel will be. Flight of the Eissenstein had okay action but far from what I would want. Nemesis was a bit better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Rawl Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Please James, you owe us all a decent Blood Angel novel after the crapfests you have given us. Fear to Tread does sound interesting from that list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Finally something about the Red Angel, this should be interesting. Here's to hoping his origins are tragic, I want that Blood Angel corpse to have belonged to a meaningful character. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Please James, you owe us all a decent Blood Angel novel after the crapfests you have given us. Fear to Tread does sound interesting from that list. I actually like the Swallows Blood Angels, canon/fluff conflicts aside. They give the Astartes a face that is rarely seen. Granted, he actually manages to "humanize" them, but I think that it adds more flavor to them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I thought Roldoron died on 'Murder'? Am i just getting confused? Who was the BA commander at 'Murder'? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Can't remember the name, but it was the other captain that accompanied Sanguinius at Nikaea - along with Raldoron. Edit: Hopefully, we'll see why Raldoron was said to be as famous as Abaddon among the Space Marine Legions. At Nikaea Ahriman didn't recognize him, he described the Blood Angel as having a white "face of a killer". In "Horus Rising" (I think), when Sanguinius joined Horus over Murder, Raldoron accompanied the Primarch, identifying the slain, but nothing special as mentioned about him. It was ADB who made him a legend - or rather, stated him to be so - when he wrote that Sevatar was as famous as Abaddon or Raldoron, in "The First Heretic". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviox Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Finally something about the Red Angel, this should be interesting. Here's to hoping his origins are tragic, I want that Blood Angel corpse to have belonged to a meaningful character. By Red Angel do you refer to Sanquinius? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 The Red Angel is Angron... Also the Blood Angels will seemingly break the Nikea pact.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 This is the Red Angel http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs186.snc1/6214_258861690098_706275098_8110390_839730_n.jpg A Daemon possessing a Blood Angels Space Marine's body/corpse. On a personal note, while he is indeed called so, I very much hate the title Red Angel for Angron. The World Eaters Primarch has nothing about him that either links him to angels or makes him a twisted parody of one. He's as down-to-earth (bad choice of words, but it changes nothing) as they come. But I guess that's subject to opinions, so... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviox Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 This is the Red Angel http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs186.snc1/6214_258861690098_706275098_8110390_839730_n.jpg A Daemon possessing a Blood Angels Space Marine's body/corpse. On a personal note, while he is indeed called so, I very much hate the title Red Angel for Angron. The World Eaters Primarch has nothing about him that either links him to angels or makes him a twisted parody of one. He's as down-to-earth (bad choice of words, but it changes nothing) as they come. But I guess that's subject to opinions, so... Where is that picture from? It looks strangely familiar and yet unknown :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 It is from the Horus Heresy Artbooks http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/H...ed-Visions.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviox Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 It is from the Horus Heresy Artbooks http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/H...ed-Visions.html Right.. I've had that book for years. Better check up that again. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curuf1nw3 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 On a personal note, while he is indeed called so, I very much hate the title Red Angel for Angron. The World Eaters Primarch has nothing about him that either links him to angels or makes him a twisted parody of one. He's as down-to-earth (bad choice of words, but it changes nothing) as they come. But I guess that's subject to opinions, so... I completely agree with you, every time i read red angel i think of Sanguinius. I dont know why they implemented it on Angrod, one would think of red bucher/devil as a better fit :blink: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Good to know Raldoron will play a big part Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Thanks for the info, definitely interesting stuff. The Successor part did make me cringe a little as I had a brutal vision from the past Blood Angels books, something that would make even Talos cry. I'm affraid Swallow will make Sanguinius look like a chump when compared to his own home-brewn future Chapter Masters. Buuut anyways, we all know the past BA books weren't that great so I'll leave it at that. Hopefully this will rock! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 On a personal note, while he is indeed called so, I very much hate the title Red Angel for Angron. The World Eaters Primarch has nothing about him that either links him to angels or makes him a twisted parody of one. He's as down-to-earth (bad choice of words, but it changes nothing) as they come. But I guess that's subject to opinions, so... I completely agree with you, every time i read red angel i think of Sanguinius. I dont know why they implemented it on Angrod, one would think of red bucher/devil as a better fit B) When you're a Primarch, I imagine you're free to choose any title for yourself except for Warmaster or Emperor. Maybe ol' Angy picked it just to ruffle Sang's feathers :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I just really hope Swallow brings his A game. Loved 'Flight of the Eisenstein', but the Blood Angel novels were so meh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curuf1nw3 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 On a personal note, while he is indeed called so, I very much hate the title Red Angel for Angron. The World Eaters Primarch has nothing about him that either links him to angels or makes him a twisted parody of one. He's as down-to-earth (bad choice of words, but it changes nothing) as they come. But I guess that's subject to opinions, so... I completely agree with you, every time i read red angel i think of Sanguinius. I dont know why they implemented it on Angrod, one would think of red bucher/devil as a better fit :P When you're a Primarch, I imagine you're free to choose any title for yourself except for Warmaster or Emperor. Maybe ol' Angy picked it just to ruffle Sang's feathers :P Rofl!!! nice one!! I just really hope Swallow brings his A game. Loved 'Flight of the Eisenstein', but the Blood Angel novels were so meh Loved flight of the eisenstein as well, tbh i didnt expect to like it as much as i did. back to topic: I gues by the cover of the novel it will say how Sanguinius got his back broken by the demon?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curuf1nw3 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 On a personal note, while he is indeed called so, I very much hate the title Red Angel for Angron. The World Eaters Primarch has nothing about him that either links him to angels or makes him a twisted parody of one. He's as down-to-earth (bad choice of words, but it changes nothing) as they come. But I guess that's subject to opinions, so... I completely agree with you, every time i read red angel i think of Sanguinius. I dont know why they implemented it on Angrod, one would think of red bucher/devil as a better fit :P When you're a Primarch, I imagine you're free to choose any title for yourself except for Warmaster or Emperor. Maybe ol' Angy picked it just to ruffle Sang's feathers :P Rofl!!! nice one!! I just really hope Swallow brings his A game. Loved 'Flight of the Eisenstein', but the Blood Angel novels were so meh Loved flight of the eisenstein as well, tbh i didnt expect to like it as much as i did. back to topic: I gues by the cover of the novel it will say how Sanguinius got his back broken by the demon?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247175-hh-fear-to-tread/#findComment-2992671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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