White Stars

[Razblood]

The White Stars

Vanguard Veteran

Founding: M36 (Unconfirmed)

Geneseed: Dark Angels (According to tithing samples)

Homeworld: Record missing

Motto: Timere non Obscurum, Consurget

Background

Primarily a fleet based Chapter located mainly to the Galactic Northwest of the Veiled Region, the events having led to the loss of their homeworld if they ever had one have been lost to history.

Their fleet is comprised of vessels which even within the technologically stunted Imperium would be considered obsolete. These include 2 Grand Cruisers of [Record missing] class, which have been extensively modified to make them a match for anything up to and including a Space Marine Battle Barge. The rest of the fleet is made up of various classes of Cruiser and Light Cruiser vessels which are individually deployed on an as needed basis, with the smallest being able to carry at least 50+ Marines to wherever they may be called.

Each Company is alternately sent on “long patrols” across the Southern edge of the Galaxy, in an apparent effort to encounter as many varied enemies as possible. These then return and share what they have learned of enemy tactics and weaponry in order that the Chapter will be ready to face whatever they may encounter.

Specialists in Planetary Insertion, often the last thing an enemy will see are the Drop Pods and Thunderhawks of the White Stars bearing down on their command positions and supply lines, thereby cutting the heart out of their forces with the minimum of collateral damage.

Perhaps unusually among the descendents of the Dark Angels they make every effort to assist Imperial Forces when called upon, whilst at the same time seemingly attempting to avoid any contact with their forbears or any other successors of the Lion’s line.

Also of note is the fact that they do not refer to themselves as “The Unforgiven” as many successors of the Dark Angel seem to, which also may explain their massive divergence in organisation from their antecedents.

Organisation

The White Stars are a Codex divergent Chapter with a very unusual organisation.

They are split into 3 Grand Companies of approximately 250 marines, with 100+ Veterans and an indeterminate number of Initiates spread throughout the 3 main Companies.

Squads are arranged along Codex lines, with the traditional Assault, Tactical & Devastator formations, with each marked accordingly by the colour of their helms – Blue for Tactical, Red for Assault & Green for Devastator.

Veterans are denoted by the addition of Black to their respective specialisation colour.

Each Company houses it’s own Librarium, Armoury & Reclusaium, however there is one Master of each of these disciplines who are denoted with the title of “Guardian”.

For the Librarium there is the “Guardian of Hope”, a position currently held by the oldest Librarian in the Chapter – Orlandu Ramza

The Armoury is headed by the “Guardian of Steel” - Ancient Severus Trask.

Finally the Reclusaium is in the control of the “Guardian of Retribution” - the Crimson helmed Janus Schmidt.

These 3 act as advisors to the Chapter Master Cuchlainn de Camaris.

Beliefs

In another departure from their forbears and for that matter many Chapters of the Adeptus Astartes the White Stars do not seem to venerate their Primarch at all.

They do however still, in common with the majority of other Chapters, see the Emperor as the pinnacle of Mankind and prosecute war in his name alone.

Beyond this there is not much known about the Chapters rituals or beliefs.

Incidents of note

Brethrens Bond

A “long patrol” under the stewardship of Orlandu Ramza encountered a badly mauled Crusade of Black Templars under attack by Eldar Pirates on a small moon on the Western edge of the Segmentum Tempestus, upon offering assistance they were initially rebuffed with the Marshal leading the Crusade stating that they “didn’t need the assistance of a filthy witch”. The White Stars bowed to his statement and kept their distance.

Eventually however the Marshal relented and requested whatever aid they could provide, at which point Ramza told him “Our previous offer was so rudely refused that I feel that we deserve some recompense for our time and ammunition” and demanded one of the three Land Raider Crusaders under the Marshal’s command as the price, which the Marshal with his back to wall agreed to.

Thus the White Stars gained the Land Raider “Brethrens Bond” as well as the eternal enmity of the Black Templars.

[NightrawenII]

I think, you should read THIS - the thing is... he was not serious. :P

 

~NightrawenII.

[ScottishSmurf96]

No need to pick on Templars... Pick on someone else like.. Blood Angels?

[Razblood]

@ NightrawenII - I'm not sure why you provided that link? I mean it was an entertaining read, albeit better written and with a better layout than my attempt, but I fail to see the connection?

 

Thanks for the comment though :)

 

@ ScottishSmurf96 - Everyone bags on the BA (some would say with good reason) other than Necron loving BA players ;)

 

I just have always felt that my Chapter would have an issue with the BTs, and what better issue than an extorted LR Crusader ;)

 

 

Heres hoping for more comments/criticism because I would like to flesh this out and make it half decent :)

 

Rather than just the tired ramble of an insomniac mind ;)

[Arkangilos]

I think what Nightrawen is trying to say is that you have too much of the conspiracy stuff going on. Both with your large usage of quotations and "Unconfirmed" and "According to" items.

[NightrawenII]

I think what Nightrawen is trying to say is that you have too much of the conspiracy stuff going on. Both with your large usage of quotations and "Unconfirmed" and "According to" items.

QFT

The mystery is good, when it has some purpose, but the point of Liber Astartes forum is to develop your Chapter and present it to wide community. Leaving things in obscurity is just... paradox?

 

 

Edit: To be more constructive...

 

Why did you choose the DA's gene-seed, if you don't want them to have any business with DA? "Long Patrols" - that's why the Chapters are fleet-based in first place, to go a kill anyone in their path. "These then return and share what they have learned of enemy tactics and weaponry in order that the Chapter will be ready to face whatever they may encounter." - This is fairly unusual, you could build upon it. "Specialists in Planetary Insertion" - as you can tell from my responses in other thread, that's what Space Marines do in general. It's nothing new or special. "The White Stars are a Codex divergent Chapter with a very unusual organisation." - you will be surprised, how is this a common organisation for non-codex Chapters especially these DIY ones. :sweat:

 

To be honest, this article reads like "Do or Don't" session. You are either totally divergent or totally in the line. Okey, make a outline or at least list of Want and Don't Want.

This will give people more food for thoughts and comments. Also, try to insert some kind of personality into Chapter. People have different tastes, preferences and opinions so no Chapter character is the same.

 

 

~NightrawenII.

[Brother-Sergeant Bohemond]

If you are DA, then you share our shame, no exceptions.

 

How would you be DA and not share in it? An Unforgiven Chapter would/should have supplied the cadre to train the chapter, including staying on to serve as the new leaders (most likely) and so why would they not be?

 

And I agree with Nightrawen, too much conspiracy in the chapter (not that it is a bad thing). If you will do it, then it needs to be done really well, and at the moment it reads too much like 'We are loyalist fallen'. This is simply not the case, you cant be as the DA would have captured you by now. They are really, really really good at catching fallen. Insanely good. The only one who can escape is Cypher. You can live for a hundred years or so in hiding, but you will be found. One day. Theres no way that a Chapter of them would be formed. If there was, then the DA and all their successors would have crushed them regardless of =I= protection. Why? Becuase the DA control Inquisitors, they control so much of the Imperium through their networks. Its one of the reasons why they are so good at finding Fallen.

 

My advice would be to read the DIY guide stickied at the top of the page.

[Razblood]

Fair points, which I cannot disagree with :lol:

 

I'll take onboard what you have said and see if I can come up with something more suitable (In other words I'll avoid just splurging out whats bubbling inside my head during a bout of insomnia B) )

 

Thanks for your comments :P

 

I'll be back ;)

[Reyner]

Don't be discouraged :) as others said there are some good ideas here!

[Brother-Sergeant Bohemond]

Don't be discouraged :cuss as others said there are some good ideas here!

 

agreed, its a solid start, but, stay away from any idea of a Fallen chapter. The basic reason is that the DA and their successors would wipe them out as soon as they gained knowledge of them. Whenever fallen congregate, the DA fall on them and kill them. There is no such thing as safety in numbers where the Fallen are concerned. :lol: