bloodhammer13 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 hey new here but i have been in the hobby for 3-4 years on and off after my nids got crushed i took the plunge into a adeptus astartes army....3 months later a genral colour scheme an background emerges an id like help to see if its plausable :) chapter name : Heralds of Destruction chapter symbol : flames founding chapter : Iron warriors - after Barabas Dantioch comanderered the traitor vessel he made it to terra and was allowed to live by the inquistion and the chapter is a decendent of his geneseed this is known only to the chaplins and chapter master the chapter enjoys heavy use of high powered weapons such as hvy bolters and lascannons and perfer ranged combat overall and also enjoy heavy armor use they were taken under the wing by the blood angels and are 'technicly their succesors supossedly drawn from the deavastators and aromored remenants of the leigion . they are a space-bound chapter currently on patrol around the eye of terror they have a heavy hatred for chaos in all forms this isnt finished but is all i have time to put up for now ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I suggest reading the DIY guide first to quote.. :) Don’t claim your chapter is founded using traitor gene-seedThere is simply no reason for the Imperium to do this; they have a massive stock of loyalist gene-seed. Yes, they do have traitor gene-seed in storage, but it is locked in stasis fields. You can have your chapter not know its gene-seed origin and hint at the idea of traitor gene-seed, but at no point say it. OT: your chapter needs some fleshing out. I like the name, and the symbol. It needs a pic or two. Maybe a color scheme etc. would be nice to see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2992809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodhammer13 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Thanks for tht some amendments are in order :jaw: Chapters gene seed orginates from unknown sources to all bar the inquisition however the chapter has served with destinction since its founding engaging in seek and destroy missions in the area around the eye of terror serving in supporting roles currently The chapter is engaged in destroying the minor warbands supporting abaddon as well as actively engaging the chaos fleets around the eye . The chapters is space bound however their recruiting planets tend to produce warriors who have an affinaty with technology and with their good ties with the adeptus mechanicus the produce a higher ra normal of technically minded marines . This also means that the marines rarely go into battle without the weapons or ships they require . Infact on of the heralds most valued possessions is the forgeship 'hammer of fate' witch produces the weapons ammunition and armor they need . Part of the chapters creed is that the warriors look to their own equipment and customize it to suit their needs which means they are more likely to produce sternguard veterans as well . The combat doctrine of the the chapter follows the codex closely , with a preference for ranged firepower an void fighting, however they don't always follow the codex word by word more as guidence . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2992839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Thanks for tht some amendments are in order :jaw: Chapters gene seed orginates from unknown sources to all bar the inquisition however the chapter has served with destinction since its founding engaging in seek and destroy missions in the area around the eye of terror servin in the battles for cadia in the 13th black crusade an sending armor in the 3rd war for Armageddon in supporting roles currently Tje chapter is engaged in destroying the minor warbands supporting abaddon as well as actively engaging the chaos fleets around the eye . ^ I would try to avoid having your chapter included in any GW santioned fluff. GW stuff is ultimitely the no-go. And it is written common knowlege who was there fighting at Cadia, and at Armageddon. If you looking to the tech minded/ ranged marines then you might wanna go with Vulkan, or Ferrus's gene seed. As far as crusader fleet that's ok. I would take out the link to Blood Angels unless your claiming that gene seed. As all BA chapter have black rage, and are not a ranged style army, they are heavy mech, but most first founding's are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2992858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodhammer13 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Thanks for the advice vulkan seems a good bet due to the amount of heat based weapons in the army an I will edit tht. Soon aha I'm using ba codex an have a storm raven an two Baal preds so nt sure how to explain tht away yet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2992865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 The 3rd War and Black Crusade are actually open-ended: the GW fluff is pretty clear that the officially listed chapters aren't the limit, and they were both player campaigns. Personally, I don't like including your chapter in them unless you actually participated in them, but I'm old school. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2992867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachymike123 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Thanks for tht some amendments are in order :P Chapters gene seed orginates from unknown sources to all bar the inquisition however the chapter has served with destinction since its founding engaging in seek and destroy missions in the area around the eye of terror servin in the battles for cadia in the 13th black crusade an sending armor in the 3rd war for Armageddon in supporting roles currently Tje chapter is engaged in destroying the minor warbands supporting abaddon as well as actively engaging the chaos fleets around the eye . ^ I would try to avoid having your chapter included in any GW santioned fluff. GW stuff is ultimitely the no-go. And it is written common knowlege who was there fighting at Cadia, and at Armageddon. If you looking to the tech minded/ ranged marines then you might wanna go with Vulkan, or Ferrus's gene seed. As far as crusader fleet that's ok. I would take out the link to Blood Angels unless your claiming that gene seed. As all BA chapter have black rage, and are not a ranged style army, they are heavy mech, but most first founding's are. well said DeathKnight2000, i was thinking sounds like salamanders successor (but was ninjad). maybe, bloodhammer13, you could have them founded on the teachings of a sallies veteran who despises the iron warriors because of the istvaan drop site massacres? this could then explain their affinity with customising their wargear, the flames chapter symbol, etc. any ideas on a colour scheme geezer? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2992870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodhammer13 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 The sallis idea is pretty awsome tbh an I'm workin on getting some photos up thanks guys for the input Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2992881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachymike123 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 also, using the blood angels codex is actually a pretty nifty idea (i know no one has critisised your decision to use it so far but just in case...) as they are technologically capable this explains their fast engines - the ability to redeploy rapidly in most circumstances; stormravens - these may be added in a new sm codex in the future but is purely speculation atm but in the mean time same as fast engines; if you run with this list i would choose strenguards only when choosing your list; black rage can be explained by those shamed brothers who have sinned against the chapter (re:sisters repentia), or who go into a fit when hearing of heresy/rebellion, or just a genetic quirk. its just a case of using your imagination really, they're your models geezer. happy gaming innit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2992890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 the codex you use should have little to no impact on an IA. Just because you have a Baal Predator doesn't mean you need to explain, in the IA why you have one. However, you need to explain the Red Thirst rageness in some detail, why do they suffer from rage? Is it implants? (as the WE had/have) or is it due to a hatred of traitors? Being sons of Vulkan can easily explain faster tanks and more Landraiders easily, something along the lines of 'as all Sons of Vulkan, the Heralds of Destruction forge all their own equipment and often modify the Tanks from within their armoury' Or something like that, anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2992923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 the codex you use should have little to no impact on an IA. Just because you have a Baal Predator doesn't mean you need to explain, in the IA why you have one. However, you need to explain the Red Thirst rageness in some detail, why do they suffer from rage? Is it implants? (as the WE had/have) or is it due to a hatred of traitors? Actually, that does need to be explained fairly well. Baal Predators or BA and BA Successor dependent, and they share it WITH NO ONE, including the Ad Mech. I mean, their might be a reason they might have let it end up in his hands, but that should be very well explained. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2993154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Im talking about in his army list, if he has an actual Baal Predator in the IA, then he has to explain it. But who says his chapter didnt just make a better engine and shove a twin-linked assault cannon on it? :) But yes. If the chapter actually uses baal Predators, then that would have to be explained. Not if it is just a unit choice. Its like explaining why you dont have a LandRaider in your army list or your collection. You dont need to explain that. Hope this clears up what I mean ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2993246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Im talking about in his army list, if he has an actual Baal Predator in the IA, then he has to explain it. But who says his chapter didnt just make a better engine and shove a twin-linked assault cannon on it? :P But yes. If the chapter actually uses baal Predators, then that would have to be explained. Not if it is just a unit choice. Its like explaining why you dont have a LandRaider in your army list or your collection. You dont need to explain that. Hope this clears up what I mean ;) Oh, I apologize :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2993747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Im talking about in his army list, if he has an actual Baal Predator in the IA, then he has to explain it. But who says his chapter didnt just make a better engine and shove a twin-linked assault cannon on it? :P But yes. If the chapter actually uses baal Predators, then that would have to be explained. Not if it is just a unit choice. Its like explaining why you dont have a LandRaider in your army list or your collection. You dont need to explain that. Hope this clears up what I mean :) Oh, I apologize :sweat: No problem, next time I need to be clearer :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2993933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodhammer13 Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 k thanks guys for ur input when i have five mins i will put pics up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247210-diy-chapter-constructive-crit-required/#findComment-2998958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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