Possible to change a Godhammer Landraider to a Redeemer?

[brainwashed]

I have an old original release almost finished Godhammer pattern Landraider that I was about to finally put the finishing touches on but then I saw on GW's online store that you can purchase the Redeemer's weapon sprue. Do you think it's possible to pull a Godhammer's TL Lascannon sponson's apart and replace them with the flame cannon's from the Redeemer sprue?

 

Here's a link to the sprue.

 

I have never built a Redeemer and don't know how similar the sponson's are between the two tanks but if it's a simple change out I think I'll try to convert my Godhammer over to it's newer model cousin.

 

Thanks!

[Res Ipsa Loquitur]

As in, how they fit to the LR itself? If so, they're identical and you shouldn't have any problem at all.

[brainwashed]

Now that I look at my assembled and base coated Godhammer, what I'm really hoping for it to use the existing mounting brackets that connect the lascannon sponsons to the tank itself. I'm hoping that the Redeemer's flame cannon's can just pop into the existing brackets that are on my old Godhammer.

 

I don't think I will be able to get the old brackets off with out causing some ugly damage to the tank. If I need to replace the old brackets I think that's a deal killer.

 

Will the new Redeemer bits go into the Godhammer brackets? I don't know of a way for me to get both tanks side by side to look.

 

Anyone out there have both tanks?

[striker8]

Now that I look at my assembled and base coated Godhammer, what I'm really hoping for it to use the existing mounting brackets that connect the lascannon sponsons to the tank itself. I'm hoping that the Redeemer's flame cannon's can just pop into the existing brackets that are on my old Godhammer.

 

I don't think I will be able to get the old brackets off with out causing some ugly damage to the tank. If I need to replace the old brackets I think that's a deal killer.

 

Will the new Redeemer bits go into the Godhammer brackets? I don't know of a way for me to get both tanks side by side to look.

 

Anyone out there have both tanks?

 

I'm not really sure what your refering to by bracket? Are you laking about the sponson door plug, or the top and bottom supports? Those parts are more or less the same between the two kits, the parts that differ are the pivot post. machine eyes, weapon parts, and gun shield

 

Im my experience the plastic Crusader/Redeemer parts aren't a dirrect swap on to a built LC sponson. The pivoting post is different between the two and you have to do a bit of trimming to get it to work. THe easiest thing to do is see if you can pop the LC sponsons out as an assembly and replace them with a complete Flame or Hurricane sponson with or without magnetizing them.

[Dark Bjoern]

Do you mean something like that?

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Grey%20Knights/GreyKnightsLandRaiderVictorium01.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Grey%20Knights/GreyKnightsLandRaiderVictorium02.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Grey%20Knights/GreyKnightsLandRaiderVictorium05.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Grey%20Knights/GreyKnightsLandRaiderVictorium07.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Grey%20Knights/GreyKnightsLandRaiderRedeemerWIP01.jpg

[brainwashed]

I mean the parts in this picture below. IIRC there are two brackets that come off of a door plug. I'm hoping that those brackets coming off the door plug are the same between both kits and I can pry them open and just pop in a new gun and then force them shut.

 

The problem for me is that I don't have the the guns or brackets in my hands or even unassembled and off the sprue, I don't recall what they looked like when I built the model 10+ years ago.

 

I think I can pull this off and not bother with magnetizing or destroying the original model that is built up.

 

(photo from a magnetizing thread by Dark Bjoern hopefully he doesn't mind me linking to it)

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Salamanders/SalamanderLandRaiderHephaistosmagne.jpg

[brainwashed]

Hey thanks for replying here Dark Bjoern. I was just plagiarizing one of your posts. :(

 

I'd love to do what you did but my model is assembled and I can't seem to get the door plug out. When I built it there was no such thing as a Crusader or Redeemer pattern Landraider and I must have used plenty of model cement.

 

Do you think I could open up one of the sponson assemblies and remove the lascannon and replace it with a Crusader or Redeemer gun assembly?

[brainwashed]

double post

[brainwashed]

In this image by Katubuki you can see the brackets before they are glued to the door plug. These are what I'm hoping the open up and replace the gun that is between them.

 

It's looking like the redeemer flame cannon or Crusader's hurricane's will pop in there if I can get them open.

 

My question is whether or not all the gun's have the same carrier between the brackets, and it's looking like they might. I've just never tried anything like this.

 

http://home.comcast.net/~kotobuki99/wh40k/Marines/lr-wip03.jpg

[Dark Bjoern]

No problem, i´m glad that someone likes my work.

 

The option from Katobuki is a bit more difficult to realize. The brackets will need a lot of rework to fit them plain on their frame. And you will have to magnetize the targeting arrays too. At all, if you wanna turn the sponson weapons the magnet version will be a bit instable. Lots of holes for the magnets that needs to be exactly in place to prevent that the magnets will cause a beveled look. I guess the correct english phrase is: Keep it simple stupid.

 

What glue have you used for your LR? Super glue or plastic glue? If super glue it´s possible to remove the sponsons carefully with a hobby knife.

[brainwashed]

I used plastic glue. :teehee:

 

What I'm hoping to do it pull the brackets apart and then remove the gun assemblies and replace them with either the Flame Cannon or more likely the Hurricane's. I'm not really looking to magnetize since I would prefer to do it with the door plug and not at the gun. i'm thinking of just changing the tank over to a Crusader.

[striker8]

OK now I understand what you're aiming to do. I don't see where it can't be done like that but you're going to take a risk of garfing the whole sponson if something goes wrong.

 

Have you tried poping the lascannons and gun shield off? You still take a risk but it would be one with less drastic repercussions. Hurricane bolters should fit on the stock las pivot post with minimal adjustment while the Flame cannons won't fit quite as well.

 

Another more involved option would be to cut the pivot shaft where it passes through the supports top and bottom. Then you can pull the existing weapons out as a whole assembly. If you didn't glue the pivot shaft into the upper and lower supports pop the little stubs out but hold onto them in you glued it in don;t worry about it. Trim the new pivot shaft to the same length as the one you removed after cutting, save these stubbs just in case. Put a short pin in the top of the pivot shaft and drill a coresponding hole into either the part still in support or in the top stub from trimming. Slide the weapon assembly into the sponson, you may have to flex things a bit to get the pin into the hole on top and it you may need to trim the pin a few time untill you can get it in place. Line the pivot shaft up at the bottom and drill from the bottom up into the pivot shaft and pin that to complete the swap.

[brainwashed]

OK now I understand what you're aiming to do. I don't see where it can't be done like that but you're going to take a risk of garfing the whole sponson if something goes wrong.

 

Have you tried poping the lascannons and gun shield off? You still take a risk but it would be one with less drastic repercussions. Hurricane bolters should fit on the stock las pivot post with minimal adjustment while the Flame cannons won't fit quite as well.

 

Another more involved option would be to cut the pivot shaft where it passes through the supports top and bottom. Then you can pull the existing weapons out as a whole assembly. If you didn't glue the pivot shaft into the upper and lower supports pop the little stubs out but hold onto them in you glued it in don;t worry about it. Trim the new pivot shaft to the same length as the one you removed after cutting, save these stubbs just in case. Put a short pin in the top of the pivot shaft and drill a coresponding hole into either the part still in support or in the top stub from trimming. Slide the weapon assembly into the sponson, you may have to flex things a bit to get the pin into the hole on top and it you may need to trim the pin a few time untill you can get it in place. Line the pivot shaft up at the bottom and drill from the bottom up into the pivot shaft and pin that to complete the swap.

 

That's a great idea! Thanks Striker8. I'll try that.