Qarassen Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 What timeline do you think "Know no fear" are in the HH? Below is my thougts about it, so spoiler warning! First, The facts that the ultramarines does not know anything about itsvann III or V, it must be relatively close in timeline to those "battles", And if you look at "Ravens Flight" and "Deliverence Lost" the word bearers leaves for calth just as Corax escapes. So from my point of view, "know no fear" takes place ~ 1 ½ - 2 years after Isvaan V. What do you think? Btw, Gav Thorpe did a great work with deliverence lost.. Easily top 5 in the HH novels. "Fulgrim, A thousand sons, The first heretic, Deliverence lost and Horus rising" is my top 5 for now. Of the limited editions i have to say that "Aurelian" is my nr 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247667-timeline-for-know-no-fear-spoiler-if-new-to-the-hhq/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Týr Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 It's old fluff and knowledge that the battle for calth takes place right after Isstvan V. In the end of First Heretic you see the Word Bearers departing for Ultramar. I would say it's about ½-1 year after Isstvan V. But I wouldn't be surprised if the event was closer to Isstvan in the timeline. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247667-timeline-for-know-no-fear-spoiler-if-new-to-the-hhq/#findComment-2999171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 At the end of Galaxy in Flames Horus says, " Sanguinous and the Blood Angels will not trouble us, and Kor-Phaeron sends world that the Ultramarines muster at Calth." That is just after Istvaan III as preparations are being made for Istvaan V. I was of the impression that Horus' strategy was to engage as many loyalist as possible all at once, but not all together. The Space Wolves at Prospero, the Ultramarines at Calth, the Blood Angels at Signus, and the massacre at Istvaan were to all be almost at the same time to prevent regrouping on the part of the loyalists. Divide and conquer the legioins, then strike Terra with only the Fists left to defend it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247667-timeline-for-know-no-fear-spoiler-if-new-to-the-hhq/#findComment-2999983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
isilvra Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Page 262 puts it 44 years after Monarcia which was 43 years before the Drop site massacre according to the prologue page of The First Heretic. A rough date of 640.007M31 based on all the other events. Below is a rough timeline based on the novels 143.007M31 The last survivors of the raven guard legion escape Isstvan V escape on board the Battle Barge Avenger/ The Warmaster forces deploy for the coming Crusade 522.007 The BB Avenger arrives in the Sol system carrying the last of the Raven Guard 552.007 The RG arrive on Terra 619.007 Omegon and Alpha legions operatives deploy to Keavar c643.007 The battle of Calth. The Word Bearers launch a surprise attack on the Calth orbital muster. Half the 13th legion and large portions of the fleet are destroyed out in the initial assault 719.007 RG acquire gene seed tech 600.008M31 The Warmaster forces nuke Gyges Prime from orbit. The rest of the system submits immediately Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247667-timeline-for-know-no-fear-spoiler-if-new-to-the-hhq/#findComment-3001311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Týr Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Page 262 puts it 44 years after Monarcia which was 43 years before the Drop site massacre according to the prologue page of The First Heretic. A rough date of 640.007M31 based on all the other events. Below is a rough timeline based on the novels 143.007M31 The last survivors of the raven guard legion escape Isstvan V escape on board the Battle Barge Avenger/ The Warmaster forces deploy for the coming Crusade 522.007 The BB Avenger arrives in the Sol system carrying the last of the Raven Guard 552.007 The RG arrive on Terra 619.007 Omegon and Alpha legions operatives deploy to Keavar c643.007 The battle of Calth. The Word Bearers launch a surprise attack on the Calth orbital muster. Half the 13th legion and large portions of the fleet are destroyed out in the initial assault 719.007 RG acquire gene seed tech 600.008M31 The Warmaster forces nuke Gyges Prime from orbit. The rest of the system submits immediately How do you calculate those events exactly? And how are you suppose to read 522.007 to 552.007 ? I belive 7 is the year, but is 522 and 552 the hours in that year? But great work. I salute you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247667-timeline-for-know-no-fear-spoiler-if-new-to-the-hhq/#findComment-3001406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Dating_System The Imperium divides years into 1000 parts, the first 3 numbers is the year fraction. Second 3 numbers are the year. Last part is Millenium. So with 522.007 and 552.007, they both happened in the same year, but were a few weeks apart. There is also supposed to be a check number at the start but i dont think they are used much, they just measure how accurate to Terran time the event being recorded is and seem to be pretty useless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247667-timeline-for-know-no-fear-spoiler-if-new-to-the-hhq/#findComment-3001514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
isilvra Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Page 262 puts it 44 years after Monarcia which was 43 years before the Drop site massacre according to the prologue page of The First Heretic. A rough date of 640.007M31 based on all the other events. Below is a rough timeline based on the novels 143.007M31 The last survivors of the raven guard legion escape Isstvan V escape on board the Battle Barge Avenger/ The Warmaster forces deploy for the coming Crusade 522.007 The BB Avenger arrives in the Sol system carrying the last of the Raven Guard 552.007 The RG arrive on Terra 619.007 Omegon and Alpha legions operatives deploy to Keavar c643.007 The battle of Calth. The Word Bearers launch a surprise attack on the Calth orbital muster. Half the 13th legion and large portions of the fleet are destroyed out in the initial assault 719.007 RG acquire gene seed tech 600.008M31 The Warmaster forces nuke Gyges Prime from orbit. The rest of the system submits immediately How do you calculate those events exactly? And how are you suppose to read 522.007 to 552.007 ? I belive 7 is the year, but is 522 and 552 the hours in that year? But great work. I salute you. All done based on time and date references assembled from all 19 novels. The full timeline is still a work in progress but I post it every so often with the updates. As for the dates, they are all quoted in imperial standard. each year split into 1000 equal parts so each day is about 2.73 segments. second part is the year of the millennium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247667-timeline-for-know-no-fear-spoiler-if-new-to-the-hhq/#findComment-3002095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qarassen Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Page 262 puts it 44 years after Monarcia which was 43 years before the Drop site massacre according to the prologue page of The First Heretic. A rough date of 640.007M31 based on all the other events. Below is a rough timeline based on the novels 143.007M31 The last survivors of the raven guard legion escape Isstvan V escape on board the Battle Barge Avenger/ The Warmaster forces deploy for the coming Crusade 522.007 The BB Avenger arrives in the Sol system carrying the last of the Raven Guard 552.007 The RG arrive on Terra 619.007 Omegon and Alpha legions operatives deploy to Keavar c643.007 The battle of Calth. The Word Bearers launch a surprise attack on the Calth orbital muster. Half the 13th legion and large portions of the fleet are destroyed out in the initial assault 719.007 RG acquire gene seed tech 600.008M31 The Warmaster forces nuke Gyges Prime from orbit. The rest of the system submits immediately Interesting indeed! This is a timeline that could be accurate, in "Know no fear" around page 100 you can read about a "sacrifice" done by the Word Bearers and how they offer geen seed from Salamanders, Luna wolfs/Sons of Horus, Word bearers, Raven guard and others from the Istvaan V massacre so this is evidence that Istvaan V is some time before the attack on Calth. The question is how far away in time Calth is, the traitors have increased warpspeed so "normal" traveltime is not in play here. So as for now i must agree that isilvra´s point is quite accurate, IF the word bearers can make it to Calth so fast. Btw, does anyone has a Starmap or something that is accurate? I have not found any map with istvaan on it :S Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247667-timeline-for-know-no-fear-spoiler-if-new-to-the-hhq/#findComment-3002349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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