Mr. Bleak Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Hey all, here's a question regarding Grand Strategy and Combat Squads. So first, setting up the hypothetical: My army includes a Grand Master, one unit of 10 Paladins, and 2x 5 Marine Strike Squads. I roll for Grand Strategy and get 3, so I give all of my units Counter-Attack. Now, I intend to Combat Squad my Paladins. As far as I can tell, Grand Strategy is rolled BEFORE deployment, and Combat Squading is done DURING deployment. Therefore, both Combat Squads of 5 Paladins each would get Counter-Attack as well as both Strike Squads, as the Paladins received Counter-Attack before splitting. Am I correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247700-grand-strategy-and-combat-squads/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Yes. Grand Strategy, on p22, specifically says "before forces are deployed" and Combat Squadding occurs at deployment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247700-grand-strategy-and-combat-squads/#findComment-2999576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 From the FAQ: Q: If a unit is the target of Unyielding Anvil, from the Grand Strategy special rule, and it splits into combat squads, can both combat squads claim objectives?A: Yes. So, basically, your answer is yes- any rule you grant units from Grand Strategy will apply to both Combat Squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247700-grand-strategy-and-combat-squads/#findComment-2999584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bleak Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Alrighty then, thanks guys! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247700-grand-strategy-and-combat-squads/#findComment-2999593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Using that ruling as precedent, could you also apply that to Cato Sicarius's "Battle Hardened Veterans" special rule? Select one Tac Squad with a veteran skill (Tank Hunters, for example) and have each resulting Combat Squad have the ability? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247700-grand-strategy-and-combat-squads/#findComment-2999686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 At what point in the game is "Battle Hardened Veterans" applied to the Tac Squad? It would need to happen at the same time or before when The Grand Strategy is applied. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247700-grand-strategy-and-combat-squads/#findComment-2999703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Using that ruling as precedent, could you also apply that to Cato Sicarius's "Battle Hardened Veterans" special rule? Select one Tac Squad with a veteran skill (Tank Hunters, for example) and have each resulting Combat Squad have the ability? I believe that the +OR+ answer would have to be - "FAQs for other codexs do not apply to yours". :( That said, I think it's pretty self-evident that it was true in Codex: Grey Knights before the FAQ, and it's equally true for Codex: Space Marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247700-grand-strategy-and-combat-squads/#findComment-2999705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 At what point in the game is "Battle Hardened Veterans" applied to the Tac Squad? It would need to happen at the same time or before when The Grand Strategy is applied. It doesn't say explicitly, so I would (and have) assume that it's done when you build your list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247700-grand-strategy-and-combat-squads/#findComment-2999709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 If the selected Tac Squad has the ability simply by virtue of being in the same list as Sicarius, then they have the ability at or before deployment- and both Combat Squads should receive it :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247700-grand-strategy-and-combat-squads/#findComment-2999715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 If the selected Tac Squad has the ability simply by virtue of being in the same list as Sicarius, then they have the ability at or before deployment- and both Combat Squads should receive it :rolleyes: Yeah, I'm down with this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247700-grand-strategy-and-combat-squads/#findComment-2999927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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