Prince of Ecstasy Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I've got a question regarding the size of bases in tournament settings. Say I wanted my Marshal or Emperor's Champion to really stand out from the rest of my army and put them on 40mm bases with themed terrain. Would artistic choices like that might affect gameplay to a degree be acceptable in tournament play? Both models are 25mm-sized models, but mounted on larger bases. I've never competed in a tournament, so I was curious if there was such policy on matters like that. You'd probably be best consulting with a tourney's higher-ups, but what would the consensus be for tourneys in general? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247785-base-sizes-in-tournaments/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 As far as tournaments are concerned, the general rule is models must be on the GW supplied base. My suggestion is to magnetize the 25mm base to 40mm base so you get best of both worlds. You can have the 40mm diorama base for friendlies, then you can remove the 25mm base from the larger one for tournament play. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247785-base-sizes-in-tournaments/#findComment-3000932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droma Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 The full rule is that the smallest size base you can put them on is the one they come with. It's perfectly ok to put special characters on slightly larger bases to make them stand out. If anything it puts you at a disadvantage because larger bases are more easily hit by blasts/templates and you can get hit by more guys in CC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247785-base-sizes-in-tournaments/#findComment-3001421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 You could also try something like this: http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18214 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247785-base-sizes-in-tournaments/#findComment-3006096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The full rule is that the smallest size base you can put them on is the one they come with. Nope it has to be the base supplied as per the rule book. Last edition you could up scale character bases. If you could put them on a larger base all BA players would put Seth on a much larger base and make him far far better. Insta-hitting all models in base contact at ST8 rending means on the small base he's hitting a max of 5 models making that base larger makes for much more pain! Wolfbourn could do the same. For competitive play changing base size is cheating, but for friendly games no one is really going to care. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247785-base-sizes-in-tournaments/#findComment-3007839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doshin Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 There are a bunch of GITs at the Hero Complex in Wichita, KS who intentionally hunted down the original release Obliterators to gain a competetive edge from their smaller bases. That is silly. Those GITs should have to put them on Terminator Bases like they belong. I replaced all of my 2nd Ed pewter Termies with the Newer Terminator sized bases because I'm not a prick. Don't know how scum sleeps at night. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247785-base-sizes-in-tournaments/#findComment-3052547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty1109 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Flip side of that is the people who have brought their beloved armies through multiple editions! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247785-base-sizes-in-tournaments/#findComment-3052580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_giles Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 So what about making a display tray for your whole army, with themed terrain for everyone? It'll also make carrying your army from table to table a lot easier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247785-base-sizes-in-tournaments/#findComment-3052598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doshin Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 No. There is no flipside. I've been playing since 2nd Ed. Don't care when you bought your stuff. If you bought those horrible 1st release obliterators I feel sorry for you but not that sorry. Fix them and play right. ...like I said My Rogue Trader termies have the proper bases. Being old doesn't make me special. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247785-base-sizes-in-tournaments/#findComment-3053796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker8 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 No. There is no flipside. I've been playing since 2nd Ed. Don't care when you bought your stuff. If you bought those horrible 1st release obliterators I feel sorry for you but not that sorry. Fix them and play right. ...like I said My Rogue Trader termies have the proper bases. Being old doesn't make me special. You're whole argument revolves around other overly competitive players going for any percieved advantage they can. To be honest they're just sad individuals and will atempt to bend rules no matter what so this isn't much of an issue since by the rules it is legal even though well outside the spirit of them. You can do your bases how ever you want, that's you're choice and perogitive to rebase old mini's. There are a good number of us out here that see no reason to destroy a nice base and possibly screw up a paint job just to satisfy those that can't stop thinking competitively and worried they may or may not give an advantage. The fact there are just as many disadvantages to small bases as large ones evens things out anyways. The proper base for a RT era termie is a 20mm round base, that is what they came on for around 20 years. You "CAN" use a larger base to be in sync with the current versions but by the rules is not required. Personal likes and dislikes have no weight for anyone but the individual. No being old doesn't make you special, but you're trying to impose you're idea of propper makes you special in a very different way when others are within the rules of the game. For me being old means my army is painted and based already and I don't give a flying rat's posterior if you don't like my termies on small bases or not! You don't have to play me, and if that bothers you so much I doubt I want to play you either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247785-base-sizes-in-tournaments/#findComment-3053836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Reanimation Protocol It also works for threads Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247785-base-sizes-in-tournaments/#findComment-3053844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doshin Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 . You don't have to play me, and if that bothers you so much I doubt I want to play you either. Yeah, I know. You sound just like the pricks I was referring to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247785-base-sizes-in-tournaments/#findComment-3054453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 . You don't have to play me, and if that bothers you so much I doubt I want to play you either. [/quot] Yeah, I know. You sound just like the pricks I was referring to. You are the first person I have ever seen that has a problem with this. I have 10 metal chaos terminators and have never had anyone say anything more that comment on their weight. No one else even bats an eye. I really do not know the people you play with and I only know you from the few posts you have done lately but in my humble opinion, if there is a prick in any of your games it is the one you took with you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247785-base-sizes-in-tournaments/#findComment-3054640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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