Noctus Cornix Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Ok, so I'm not exactly on for painting (I loathe it with a passion) but lately I've been trying to break the fear and paint my horde of grey plastic models. So first I wanted to start with a Marines Malevolent model, primarily because my dear friend Heathens got me into making an army of them *shakes fist towards him in rage* Damn you Heathens!!!! So anyway, the weathering and battle damage is inspired by Heathens and his army. I know it's not very good but I tried my best. Please give me some feedback, brothers. http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/HPIM1547.jpg http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/HPIM1548.jpg http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/HPIM1549.jpg http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/HPIM1550.jpg http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/HPIM1551.jpg http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/HPIM1552.jpg Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Been in the wars, ain't he?! I really like the pose. The look on his face, a bit (very?) bedraggled and tired but determined to ram that knife into one more gut. The ammo bandoleer is really nice too. He does look dirty as hell, but from Heathen's MMs I get the idea that that's how they should be! In which case I'd say it's a good start. With this kind of thing you'll only get better as you do more and get a better idea of what you want and what you can do. Looking forward to more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacekeeper Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I really like the face. I think its a great start, keep em coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Looking good, nice use of the beserker torso as well! Hurry up and do more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I like the face... Not a fan of how the dirt has been executed. In some areas it seems to think while in others it seems to lack 'focus'. This might be one of those weird and subjective things but the distribution doesn't seem natural to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellos05 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 The yellow looks great, however the battle damage looks abit to much theres to much going on (if you know what i mean) love the face looks like hes taken a glancing blow from a melta blast. How did you do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 As mentioned, the face looks great; almost as if a bolter round took off a chunk of his face, very brutal, man. The pose looks great as well, love it. As for the filth / rust, to help it bleed out into realism, I'd suggest painting the armour as if the paint has been chipped away. It helps take away from the filth as much, but helps reinforce that he's taken a hell of a beating. The sponge method works well, or (tootin' my horn a bit here, heh) you could follow the method I use in my MM thread. Again, love where you are going with these guys, bro. Glad you finally got crackin' on this project too, lol. Can't wait to see more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxyogi Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Nicely done in a Heathens style!! face looks good to!! Keep em coming,wanna see more of the Emperors finest!! Glory and Hate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Kierdale- Thanks man I really appreciate the support. I know its not the best weathering, but you're right. I just need to put more practice into it and I'll get it down eventually. Peacekeeper- Glad you like it. I have to admit I am pretty proud of his face, if anything else. :) Keith- Will do! Hellios- Well actually it's supposed to be like rust more so than mud, but I get what you mean. I agree it doesn't seem very natural but I'll try to get better at it with time. Tellos05- Appreciate the support man. I know, the battle damage might have been a bit much. I'll try to work on that some more too. The flesh scaring is not too hard actually. All you need to do is start with just wrecking the scarred part with a hobby knife. Make sure the lines flow with where the impact moved through or exploded from. Then start with a base coat of watered down beastial brown, then a nice coat of blood red. One good wash of Baal red, then a thick wash of devlin mud (make sure it gets in the lines), hightlight the inner area with beastial brown than the last touch up of a little bit of black to show burn marks. I also added in a dab of watered down white over the eye and just a hint of varnish to give it that glassy look to make it look like he's blind in that eye. 1000heathens- I actually did go for your method, but it didn't turn out so well. I think I'm gonna give the sponge method a try next. also..... Answer my PMs! I was worried! :P zxyogi- I won't let you down. ;) Thank you guys once again for all the wonderful feedback. I'll make sure my next marine will learn from the mistakes and take the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Looks good. :tu: However, that doesn't look like mud, exactly... ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 .... Was that tasteless comment really necessary?..... -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Very good, but it could use a point of contrast. If his base was pristine by comparison, it'd make him look even better, but usually a chapter symbol or something would be given extra care not to be damaged? I dunno. Maybe a trickle of blood coming down from his hairline would work too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Looks good if a little over the top with the toxic/Corrosive look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Was that tasteless comment really necessary? Depends. Do you want people to warn you when they think the dirt on your miniature...doesn't look like dirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Was that tasteless comment really necessary? Depends. Do you want people to warn you when they think the dirt on your miniature...doesn't look like dirt? No, especially when there's no dirt on the model. Its rust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empty choke Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Honestly, I love the grittiness of this model, But maybe just do a tad bit of clean up. They don't need (or do I want to) see it perfect, but just a few touch ups. But ultra lovely! -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 No, especially when there's no dirt on the model. Its rust. So you don't want feedback, then? Might want to change the first post... Anyway, if that's supposed to be rust: 1) It doesn't look like rust (has the wrong texture). Some stippling might help. 2) It's the wrong color for rust. Should be more red. Assuming it's iron-based, anyway. 3) How the hell would he get that rusty? And why would half his knife be rusty and the other half be fine? 4) Space Marine armor is made of ceramite. Ceramite is a ceramic. Ceramics don't rust. Oh: and a note on the wound. When I originally spotted it, I thought it was more dirt. I think a bit of bone poking through might highlight the difference a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Yes I should have said corrosion instead of rust. That was an error on my part 1. Ya it doesn't have the right texture. Its a thing I need to work on 2. Corrosion of yellow paint would look brown and the staining through would have a slight orange in the mix, but it wouldn't look red. That's magnetite. 3. Years of constantly using the same armor and equipment in battle and not bothering to clean it but the knife was an accident. 4. No you are right ceramics don't rust, but paint corrodes and any corrosion of the metal beneath the ceramite can bleed through cracks and stain the ceramic. See this is feedback. This is what I wanted to get. Not some sketchy one line with a wink emote that leads me to believe you are insinuating the model looks like its covered in ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 1. Ya it doesn't have the right texture. Its a thing I need to work on Like I said: stippling. I'm not 100% sure it's the best option, but it'll make it look less like dirt. 2. Corrosion of yellow paint would look brown and the staining through would have a slight orange in the mix, but it wouldn't look red. That's magnetite. More red, not all red. Reddish, if you will. And I consider orange to be reddish. ;) 3. Years of constantly using the same armor and equipment in battle and not bothering to clean it but the knife was an accident. He doesn't clean his armor? Have the Techmarines been told? 4. No you are right ceramics don't rust, but paint corrodes and any corrosion of the metal beneath the ceramite can bleed through cracks and stain the ceramic. Plausible enough. :P ;) See this is feedback. This is what I wanted to get. Not some sketchy one line with a wink emote that leads me to believe you are insinuating the model looks like its covered in censored.gif. I was (though I mean it entirely in the technical sense). :P It's the color you chose. If you wanted it to be dirt, I'd go with something more black, more red, or more grey. As is, it looks...un-dirtlike. Of course, since it's not supposed to be dirt, the color's less of an issue. So don't worry about it. Some metal around the edges of some of the corrosion might help make it look more, well, corroded. Stippling a lighter brown or an orange on might also work well. Or both. Or add some fine-grained sand. Or going with metal, then stippling the brown on top. Or you could try stippling metal on top of the brown (or perhaps have a few metallic scratches in it) to look like it corroded, then got scraped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 That is one beast of a face wound, nice one! How did you do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 I Appreciate the support man. The flesh scaring is not too hard actually. All you need to do is start with just wrecking the scarred part with a hobby knife. Make sure the lines flow with where the impact moved through or exploded from. Then start with a base coat of watered down bestial brown, then a nice coat of blood red. One good wash of Baal red, then a thick wash of devlin mud (make sure it gets in the lines), highlight the inner area with bestial brown then the last touch up of a little bit of black to show burn marks. I also added in a dab of watered down white over the eye and just a hint of varnish to give it that glassy look to make it look like he's blind in that eye. And now you have yourself a lovely little scar to show off to all the ladies. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Thanks, I'll give that a try at some point. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 So, as many people said, there were some issues with my corrosion and battle damage, and while I am proud of the overall job on the model, I can't help but agree with them on this matter. So this is Marines Malevolent paint scheme 2.0, using Heathen's more refined system as seen on his command squad. I'm way happier with how this version came out. Feels like it has more depth to me. Note, I tried to make it look as though the right eye lense is dulled and darkened out to show that it is no longer functioning properly. Thoughts, brothers? http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/HPIM1552-1.jpg http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/HPIM1553-1.jpg http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/HPIM1550-1.jpg http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac352/Noctus-Cornix/HPIM1551-1.jpg Enjoy. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Yup, I like this one more. Cleaner -not the best choice of words, I admit- than the first one. Good stuff. I like the damaged lens. I think you got it looking just right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Much, much better, bro. I like it a lot. More. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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