adamv6 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Had a bit of an argument at the weekend, my opponent said that enabling NFW's counted as using a psychic power, and wouldn't allow me to use Hammerhands as well. I said that the RAW do not list the enabling of NFW's as a physic power, they just have to pass a single psychic test (god bless Brother of Psykers) for the squad to enable them, however Hammerhands is listed as a physic power. We had the same argument about using Holocaust and Hammerhands in the same turn as well. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247920-can-you-enable-nfws-and-use-hammerhands-together/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 If it requires a psychic test, it is a psychic power. Activating force weapons is your power for the turn, no hammerhand. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247920-can-you-enable-nfws-and-use-hammerhands-together/#findComment-3002444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Pg 50 of BRB makes it clear that activating a force weapon is a psychic power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247920-can-you-enable-nfws-and-use-hammerhands-together/#findComment-3002448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 We had the same argument about using Holocaust and Hammerhands in the same turn as well. They are both Psychic Powers. You would need PML2 to cast both in the same Player turn with a single unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247920-can-you-enable-nfws-and-use-hammerhands-together/#findComment-3002461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamv6 Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Pg 50 of BRB makes it clear that activating a force weapon is a psychic power. Yep, makes it perfectly clear. Thanks for that. Ref the Holocaust question, as if is only cast from one member of the squad, can the rest of the squad use hammerhands or NFWs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247920-can-you-enable-nfws-and-use-hammerhands-together/#findComment-3002505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Ref the Holocaust question, as if is only cast from one member of the squad, can the rest of the squad use hammerhands or NFWs? no becuase they are squad wide, which mean the one chap would have used 2 powers.. = against the rules Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247920-can-you-enable-nfws-and-use-hammerhands-together/#findComment-3002514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 What GC08 said. The Brotherhood of Psykers special rule makes it clear that the entire unit is casting the power, even though it is resolved from one model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247920-can-you-enable-nfws-and-use-hammerhands-together/#findComment-3002604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikel Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 If you have an ic attached to the squad, it does seem possible that he could cast hammer hand, and the squad could then activate their forceweapons. The ic couldn't activate his own forceweapon unless he was able to use 2 powers per turn though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247920-can-you-enable-nfws-and-use-hammerhands-together/#findComment-3002963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Correct. And the activation of Hammerhand by an attached IC does indeed affect himself and the attached squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247920-can-you-enable-nfws-and-use-hammerhands-together/#findComment-3003418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Important to note (why I jumped in here) and graciously covered by Arikel and SomeWyck. :angry: ICs attached to the unit can use Hammerhand for the unit as a whole, allowing the unit to use their one-power-per-turn to activate their NFWs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/247920-can-you-enable-nfws-and-use-hammerhands-together/#findComment-3006100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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