BloodTzar Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Well , I am modeling few additional models for a next tourney and I do plan on making some new units I would not field otherwise, however I found few questionable units. First of all, I wanted to make a HG out of combined bits from DC and SG sets, where i would like to use SG banner with the hand they have modeled for it (Banner+ angelus bolt gun), while claiming its banner with bolt pistol, because in the HG entry there is nothing that makes the banner to replace any wargear. Do you think this is gaining a benifit I should not be able to get? On the other hand, I would like to make a 2 blood champions, one would be using the original SM HG set, where he uses the shield with the bolt pisto, however I do not own another shield wit BP, if I use one from Assault SQ. box (w/out BP) do you think Ishould not claim BP or should I ? Thanks ~BT P.S.:Sorry for typos but I wrote this on I pad... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 dude- you're over thinking. In a big way. HG cant get angelus bolters- so having your banner bearer's angelus counts as a pistol is soooo fine ! As for the shield issue, a holster solves it all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3003702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnaeph34rn473 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 As Morticon said, pistol holsters are great for any models that are holding something else but equipped with pistols still. On my VV I have a couple models holding either grenades or melta bombs, and just glued a pistol holster to their waist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3003712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 Thank you, but sometimes this is stuff i have to deal with ... WAAC players... I am still curiouse about other stuff,just like Sword of Sangunius duration, Baal pred's smoke for 1st turn after scout move..etc. But i would ask in another thread :blush: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3003713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguinarian Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Thank you, but sometimes this is stuff i have to deal with ... WAAC players... I am still curiouse about other stuff,just like Sword of Sangunius duration, Baal pred's smoke for 1st turn after scout move..etc. But i would ask in another thread :) *Firstly IIRC, WYSIWYG only applies to upgrades ie "replace 'this' for 'that'." AFAIK, all of our BAs have Bolters and/or Bolt Pistols so you don't have to model it on your HG Standard Bearer unless you replaced one or the other for let's say a Plasma Pistol, Infernus Pistol, Meltagun or Hand Flamer, etc., etc. **[sanguine Sword] lasts all game "as written" and per latest FAQ. ***Baal Preds can - in most cases - deploy 12" onto the board, then after Deployment make their Scout move up to 18" and pop smoke. If you steal the Initiative and go first, now you can move another 12" and shoot everything!!! However, no more smoke, so make your shooting count!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3004256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 **SoS lasts all game "as written" and per latest FAQ. I am sorry for bothering, but would you be so kind and link/quote me the scource? Baal Preds can - in most cases - deploy 12" onto the board, then after Deployment make their Scout move up to 18" and pop smoke. If you steal the Initiative and go first, now you can move another 12" and shoot everything!!! However, no more smoke, so make your shooting count!!! However, I would dissagree on this one, as according to this (i am sorry i cannot paraphrase it as i am in work, hope you dont mind) Anyways thank you for help, ~BT Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3004264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The Sanguine Sword (not SoS which would be Shield of Sanguinius) does technically last all game once cast. Many players view this as an abuse but it is correct in RAW. If you're looking to avoid an argument I would recast it whenever you want to use it. Not sure what FAQ ruling Sanguinarian was referring to though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3004282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 There is no FAQ to say that. Additionally, its a highly, highly contentious issue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3004584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenExxes Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Just going back to the problem of having the HQ banner bearer and their weapons load out, mine has a power fist and I want him to carry a meltagun. Any suggestions on how I can achieve this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3004983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Just going back to the problem of having the HQ banner bearer and their weapons load out, mine has a power fist and I want him to carry a meltagun.Any suggestions on how I can achieve this? Have the meltagun strapped around his shoulder? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3005013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malatox Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Just going back to the problem of having the HQ banner bearer and their weapons load out, mine has a power fist and I want him to carry a meltagun.Any suggestions on how I can achieve this? If I'm pushed to make a model WYSIWYG and I'm feeling too lazy to convert it, I place the weapon on the models base. I mean, it is still attached to the model and it makes the base a bit more interesting. I'm sure many a Marine has dropped his weapon in the heat of battle. Malatox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3005050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenExxes Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Just going back to the problem of having the HQ banner bearer and their weapons load out, mine has a power fist and I want him to carry a meltagun.Any suggestions on how I can achieve this? If I'm pushed to make a model WYSIWYG and I'm feeling too lazy to convert it, I place the weapon on the models base. I mean, it is still attached to the model and it makes the base a bit more interesting. I'm sure many a Marine has dropped his weapon in the heat of battle. Malatox That's a pretty good idea. But what I've done now is butchered a plastic meltagun and attached it to the side of the power fist. I just have to fix the back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3005090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Why not try something like this? (not mine) http://lh4.ggpht.com/_-HZLorI1B0w/TDEKeg0Qq-I/AAAAAAAALrk/QB4FgzuVE0o/Storm%20Wardens%20banner%20bearer%20front%20view.jpg ...and swap the chainsword for a meltagun. To me the fist holding the banner is larger than a normal fist and therefore a power fist... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3005121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I saw a guy at the local hobby store here with the banner pole extended and mounted to the base and the model had two special weapons. I guess you could do it too. Looked pretty tight, like the guy was getting ready to be over run and was defending the banner. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3005610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Legion Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 That sounds awesome Daryl...might just try that.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3005621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefireinferno Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 You could try something like my banner bearer. http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af31/Litany_of_hate/40k%20other/001-3.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3009355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodTzar Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 Lord I suck at qouting ... But its an amazing flag bearer! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248015-ba-and-wysiwyg/#findComment-3009656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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