Khine Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Since all these topics have popped up about current and past wolf lords, i've decided to do my own take on the Wolf Lord Engir Krakendoom. Heres a description of how i see him when he is in terminator armour * Wields a two handed shaft weapon in his right hand. One end is a straight spear/spike type of blade while the other end is a slightly curved long blade that represents the mix of a harpoon and a hook. * In his left hand, He would have some sort of buckler type shield or a wrist mounted storm bolter. * He wouldn't have the normal wolf pelt but instead have a scaled pelt from one of the sea prey he's killed. * He may have an oil treated fur collar around the back of his neck. * Would appear as a battle worn aging man probably with long single braided chin beard and vastly receding hair line ( Based off the marauder head i posted in another thread for someone else, will get the picture for here later) * On his personal banner or somewhere on his armour or power pack, has the Octopus head from the dark elf corsairs banner. possibly even on his shield. Action pose wise, i imagine him standing on top of a rockie out crop that has the sea splashing at the base. Tentacles would be arching up out of the water, one of which would be in the process of being severed by the blade. Now what i need help with. Besides the stuff i have mentioned, does any one know of similar items to what i have mentioned above. What are peoples thoughts on this portrayal of the WL ( before anyone says anything, yes i know this is my own model and i should be happy with it ). Does anyone have any ideas about how to do the tentacles and the ocean crashing against rocks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphariusomegon20 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Let me give you a few ideas. * Wields a two handed shaft weapon in his right hand. One end is a straight spear/spike type of blade while the other end is a slightly curved long blade that represents the mix of a harpoon and a hook. I can see this, though I'd do one end as a harpoon, and the other end as a boarding hook. Look to the DE Corsair sprues for both end pieces. * In his left hand, He would have some sort of buckler type shield or a wrist mounted storm bolter. I'd go wrist mounted Storm bolter myself. * He wouldn't have the normal wolf pelt but instead have a scaled pelt from one of the sea prey he's killed. * He may have an oil treated fur collar around the back of his neck. I'd go both personally. The fur collar could be wolf, while the cloak itself is scaled wyrm. If done right, it could work. * Would appear as a battle worn aging man probably with long single braided chin beard and vastly receding hair line ( Based off the marauder head i posted in another thread for someone else, will get the picture for here later) Sounds good. * On his personal banner or somewhere on his armour or power pack, has the Octopus head from the dark elf corsairs banner. possibly even on his shield. I'd go some sort of wyrm serpent instead. Now what i need help with. Besides the stuff i have mentioned, does any one know of similar items to what i have mentioned above. What are peoples thoughts on this portrayal of the WL ( before anyone says anything, yes i know this is my own model and i should be happy with it ). Does anyone have any ideas about how to do the tentacles and the ocean crashing against rocks. Sounds like a good concept in theory. Now let's see the first workup of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3003877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Thanks for the input alpharius. Just had a look at those corsair bits you mentioned .... WOW they do look fairly impressive. They only problem i can see with using them both on one weapon is that it would be notoriously hard to wield it effectively. the hook would be more something i would expect to find attached to his hip with the chain attached to his armour beneath his cloak, sort of like a fishing line. what i was going for with the slight hook was something more like the below image. http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1250431_99060201174_ColWHMountedChaosSorcerorMain_873x627.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3003893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardiel Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Maybe it's just me, but I always saw him as a sort of grizzled sea captain, albeit, one in tactical dreadnought armour. And as we all know, nothing says grizzled sea captain better than a hook for a hand. I'm picturing a sort of new age aquaman style, angled and generally mean looking. Could always count it as either a claw or a frostblade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3003965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 iIrc, Krakendoom's people use both harpoons and long axes.... The octopus on top/shield works because of Krakendoom. He is my favoured Wolf Lord, tbh. I look forwards to a job done well -_- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3003976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 PEG LEG...GIVE HIM A PEG LEG, EYE PATCH AND A PARROT! On second thought, don't. Really like your ideas. Good ways to add charactor. Harpoon and cloak of a sea beast just spells win to me. Defo look at the DE Corsairs for parts or even just ideas. And post for all to see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3004027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 PEG LEG...GIVE HIM A PEG LEG, EYE PATCH AND A PARROT! On second thought, don't. Really like your ideas. Good ways to add charactor. Harpoon and cloak of a sea beast just spells win to me. Defo look at the DE Corsairs for parts or even just ideas. And post for all to see. Oh i shall definitely do so when i get the money to afford all of this .. it's looking like im going to need .. two three box sets .. two independent blisters .. and then parts from ebay ... and with the new models coming out too .. as well as a secret project i have in the works :x i feel sorry for my bank balance. Thanks heaps for all the eydeas -chuckles to self- and support brothers! Ps.. i was actually giving him a scar / ghost eye, but then i thought eh.. he would be too odin / pirate ish then and most marines would just get a bionic then. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3004050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I like the scar across the eye maybe he keeps it for the fear factor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3004068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 A scar picked up fighting beasts. As for bionics, he's a Wolf Lord, if he doesn't want the un-natural metal work and rely on his own abilities then that's up to him. Some from other chapters would see it as a weakness. I think the Wolves would respect it. A sure sign of a fruitful if violent at times life. As for the eBay parts, shop around on bits sites too. Get your best price. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3004112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphariusomegon20 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Thanks for the input alpharius. Just had a look at those corsair bits you mentioned .... WOW they do look fairly impressive. They only problem i can see with using them both on one weapon is that it would be notoriously hard to wield it effectively. the hook would be more something i would expect to find attached to his hip with the chain attached to his armour beneath his cloak, sort of like a fishing line. I wouldn't imagine it would be any harder to wield than a GK Nemesis Force weapon or a Sang Guard Glaive Encarmine is, especially considering the SB would be out of the way on the back of the wrist, like GK or Sang Guard do. Both hands would be free then. If you went this direction, you could use Termie Njal as a basis for the conversion. He's already set up for it. But I do get what you mean about the belt area for the hook. I do like the eye patch idea Forte had. Matches up well with one of the heads from the WG Termie kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3004127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Thanks for the input alpharius. Just had a look at those corsair bits you mentioned .... WOW they do look fairly impressive. They only problem i can see with using them both on one weapon is that it would be notoriously hard to wield it effectively. the hook would be more something i would expect to find attached to his hip with the chain attached to his armour beneath his cloak, sort of like a fishing line. I wouldn't imagine it would be any harder to wield than a GK Nemesis Force weapon or a Sang Guard Glaive Encarmine is, especially considering the SB would be out of the way on the back of the wrist, like GK or Sang Guard do. Both hands would be free then. If you went this direction, you could use Termie Njal as a basis for the conversion. He's already set up for it. But I do get what you mean about the belt area for the hook. I do like the eye patch idea Forte had. Matches up well with one of the heads from the WG Termie kit. Hmm.. i hadn't actually thought of using it two handed.. In my mindseye hes holding it one handed, hook side up and outwards slicing through a tentacle while he aims to plunge the harpoon end into the beast. Not sure what pose to do the SB arm though, i do however know i want it to be discharging a casing out the side and having a massive reactive shell going off in one of the thicker tentacles infront of him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3004139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 just a reminder that the wolf guard TDA box has a head with an eye patch in it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3004261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmande Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Actually, considering his preference for void combat, I got the impression he'd keep a suit of void-hardened armor around, maybe counting as Runic Armor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3004412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yeah.. uhm no, the eye patch thing is definitely not happening. Though the scar plus ghost eye will be. Only thing is if the entire original pigment of an eye is red.. would the eye go completely white or turn a very dilutred red .. ie -shudders- a faint pink? *edit* i just took a closer look at the head, don't know how i missed it but there is already a scar over the eye anyway o.o Heres the head im going to be using, its the one with no helmet. http://images.frpgames.org/products/product_65094.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3004477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 They only problem i can see with using them both on one weapon is that it would be notoriously hard to wield it effectively. Yet chainsaw-swords are ok? :lol: It doesn't have to be realistic, this is 40k! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3004481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphariusomegon20 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Actually, considering his preference for void combat, I got the impression he'd keep a suit of void-hardened armor around, maybe counting as Runic Armor? Agreed. Now thinking about it, it seems unlikely that a "seafarer" would have the most cumbersome armor possible. Seems he'd want the most "flexible" armor he could lay his hands on. Perhaps a belt of Russ also. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3004493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 I will be doing a runic armour version later down the track, but for now this is the variant i am working on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3004533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Glad your not doing an eye patch. It was a joke after all. The scar idea is much better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3004782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Kravin Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Does anyone have any ideas about how to do the tentacles and the ocean crashing against rocks. How about these: http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/wyrd-bas...ccessories.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3005286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Does anyone have any ideas about how to do the tentacles and the ocean crashing against rocks. How about these: http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/wyrd-bas...ccessories.html I definitely like the smaller tentacles and the large straight up one. Thanks heaps for that Krayin! Only thing i am not entirely sold on are those suction cups. would need a bit of reworking to make them more realistic .. ie larger at the base, almost invisible at the tip. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248025-engir-krakendoom/#findComment-3005383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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