brainwashed Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 First off I want to apologize for the all of the little dumb questions I've been posting. I get great replies and help in this forum and don't want to wear out my welcome. Hopefully no one is getting sick of my questions. :) I'm painting up my Blood Claws for my newly re-started Bran Redmaw Great Company and realized that I don't like the yellow/red shoulders for the Blood Claws or Ywllow Black Wolfguard. (I'm old enough to remember a band named Stryper. Yes. I saw them live. More than once. I'm not proud of the fact. The yellow / black screams that band to me. In a bad, bad way.) It just looks too circus clown for me with the white great company shoulder and the yellow squad shoulder and multiple squad members in a unit type. Anyway.... I was thinking of using red and black for the Grey Hunters and Blood Claws squads and then white and black for the Wolf Guard and Long Fangs as that looks stellar with the opposing White Great company shoulder. But that leaves the Grey Hunters with a potentially confusing shoulder... Red Squad shouldered Grey Hunters along side the Blood Claws also red might be too confusing on the table. I was thinking of perhaps painting the Blood Claw's helmets and hands red in addition to the shoulder to differentiate them as the Blood Claw units. Maybe a totally different style of packs stripe or chevron on the shoulders between the two units? One with small dags, and the other with large sweeping triangle stripes? That coupled with the red helmet/hands chain swords/Powerfists might be enough. What do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248095-alternate-bloodclawwolfguard-squad-shoulder-colors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphariusomegon20 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 First off I want to apologize for the all of the little dumb questions I've been posting. I get great replies and help in this forum and don't want to wear out my welcome. Hopefully no one is getting sick of my questions. :) I'm painting up my Blood Claws for my newly re-started Bran Redmaw Great Company and realized that I don't like the yellow/red shoulders for the Blood Claws or Ywllow Black Wolfguard. (I'm old enough to remember a band named Stryper. Yes. I saw them live. More than once. I'm not proud of the fact. The yellow / black screams that band to me. In a bad, bad way.) It just looks too circus clown for me with the white great company shoulder and the yellow squad shoulder and multiple squad members in a unit type. Anyway.... I was thinking of using red and black for the Grey Hunters and Blood Claws squads and then white and black for the Wolf Guard and Long Fangs as that looks stellar with the opposing White Great company shoulder. But that leaves the Grey Hunters with a potentially confusing shoulder... Red Squad shouldered Grey Hunters along side the Blood Claws also red might be too confusing on the table. I was thinking of perhaps painting the Blood Claw's helmets and hands red in addition to the shoulder to differentiate them as the Blood Claw units. Maybe a totally different style of packs stripe or chevron on the shoulders between the two units? One with small dags, and the other with large sweeping triangle stripes? That coupled with the red helmet/hands chain swords/Powerfists might be enough. What do you think? How I got around a similar issue was I picked a set of symbols to represent that unit type. It's somewhat an old SW 2nd ed convention, but it works, so it should also work when using similar color sets on different models. Wolf's head = Grey Hunters Wolf Claw = Blood Claws Fanged Skull = Long Fangs Wolf Skull and Knife = Wolf Guard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248095-alternate-bloodclawwolfguard-squad-shoulder-colors/#findComment-3004896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Maybe do it this way Blood Claws = Grey back with red icon Swift Claws = Grey back with black icon Sky Claws = Pure red Grey Hunter = Black back with red icon Wolf Scouts = Leave it how it is in the codex Long Fangs = Black with white icon Wolf Guard = Pure Black or Cream with black icon or White with Red icon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248095-alternate-bloodclawwolfguard-squad-shoulder-colors/#findComment-3004901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainwashed Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 These are both good ideas. I'll look at my decal sheets. Which icons are you referring to Khine? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248095-alternate-bloodclawwolfguard-squad-shoulder-colors/#findComment-3004925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I would go with the versions that alpharius mentioned. They should be in the colours that i mentioned if not you could just paint on geometry shapes, since im sure you have more than one of each squad types. The last page of the colour pages has good examples of the icons/geometry Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248095-alternate-bloodclawwolfguard-squad-shoulder-colors/#findComment-3004935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainwashed Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Thanks for the reply's guys. I'll play around with a combination of the above. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248095-alternate-bloodclawwolfguard-squad-shoulder-colors/#findComment-3005305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I keep it even simpler. I paint my WG with a red shoulder pad, my GH with grey shoulder pads, and I don't run BC. I also notate the ranks by helmet color. WG I paint Space Wolf Grey, GH Codex Grey. Keeps it simple for a novice painter like myself. HAHA!! I've saw Stryper too!! Not my favorite show... End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248095-alternate-bloodclawwolfguard-squad-shoulder-colors/#findComment-3005337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainwashed Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 I keep it even simpler. I paint my WG with a red shoulder pad, my GH with grey shoulder pads, and I don't run BC. I also notate the ranks by helmet color. WG I paint Space Wolf Grey, GH Codex Grey.Keeps it simple for a novice painter like myself. HAHA!! I've saw Stryper too!! Not my favorite show... End of Line I'm leaning towards the red helmet and red pad for the Blood Claws, Grey or Khaki for the Grey Hunters and White or White/Black combo for the Wolf Guard/Long Fangs. I painted a test model last night and liked the red on the Blood Claws. But then I run nearly all of my wolves with helmets so it works for me. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248095-alternate-bloodclawwolfguard-squad-shoulder-colors/#findComment-3005362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 You're going with Redmaw's company, why not take advantage of it? I know they're featured in FW's latest IA book, but it's not like you absolutely have to follow their scheme, right? I'd use the company mark on both shoulders, and denote rank with their helmets : BC : grey, red faceplace GH : grey, black faceplate LF : grey, white faceplate WG : black, red faceplate (Bran's company marking) Or something along those lines maybe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248095-alternate-bloodclawwolfguard-squad-shoulder-colors/#findComment-3005412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainwashed Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 I was toying with that as well. But then what color do I make the squad shoulder? White like the Great Company shoulder? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248095-alternate-bloodclawwolfguard-squad-shoulder-colors/#findComment-3005446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I was toying with that as well. But then what color do I make the squad shoulder? White like the Great Company shoulder? I would most likely go with a mix of red, white and black (depending on rank) since those are the colors found on the other shoulder? Maybe something along the lines of (Helmet / Pad): Blood Claws : Grey&Red / Red&White Grey Hunters : Grey&Black / Black&Red Long fangs : Grey&White / Black&White Wolf guard : Black&Red / Redmaw icon on both shoulders So the Wolfguard show their alegience to the Lord by bearing his mark on each shoulder and on their helmet (although that might end up being a bit overwhelming?), the bulk of the force, the greyhunters, share the mark's colour - red and black - on the right pad, and the other two ranks have a different mix of colors to denote rank... Hmm, the more I think about this the more I'm tempted to try it :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248095-alternate-bloodclawwolfguard-squad-shoulder-colors/#findComment-3005921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainwashed Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 I was toying with that as well. But then what color do I make the squad shoulder? White like the Great Company shoulder? I would most likely go with a mix of red, white and black (depending on rank) since those are the colors found on the other shoulder? Maybe something along the lines of (Helmet / Pad): Blood Claws : Grey&Red / Red&White Grey Hunters : Grey&Black / Black&Red Long fangs : Grey&White / Black&White Wolf guard : Black&Red / Redmaw icon on both shoulders So the Wolfguard show their alegience to the Lord by bearing his mark on each shoulder and on their helmet (although that might end up being a bit overwhelming?), the bulk of the force, the greyhunters, share the mark's colour - red and black - on the right pad, and the other two ranks have a different mix of colors to denote rank... Hmm, the more I think about this the more I'm tempted to try it :teehee: Good advice, I'll play with some test models this weekend. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248095-alternate-bloodclawwolfguard-squad-shoulder-colors/#findComment-3006240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphariusomegon20 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 If you're wanting to color those pad symbols, I'd use the convention shown with the Pad Runes in the color pages of the Codex. Grey Hunters = Red Symbols Blood Claws = Yellow Symbols Long Fangs = White symbols Wolf Guard = Black Symbols Wolf Scouts = Black Symbols Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248095-alternate-bloodclawwolfguard-squad-shoulder-colors/#findComment-3006408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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