Vodunius Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I believe there is an Epic scale Rhino Avenger that served as an AA variant before the Whirlwind Hyperios (FW'S AA kit). The Hyperios replaced the Avenger, according to fluff, because the Avenger fell below expectations for performance and reliability. You're thinking of the Hunter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3011106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazleuk Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 This is worth a look.... http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...p;#entry2163952 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3011121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 This is worth a look.... http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...p;#entry2163952 Well well, guess it wasn't just invented after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3011199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 That said, the unfailingly negative reaction is silly, and pointlessly derisive. I find it next to impossible to be anything but negative and derisive when it comes to Black Library books. I've given them chance after chance and have always come away disappointed. I guess it's an aspect of 'the hobby' that I'll never get. No personal criticism intended, I haven't read any of your books. First Heretic is next up. Gotta wonder why you keep forcing yourself to read the BL books then, if it's so disappointing and aggravating. Your choice I guess, and all tastes are personal, but you'd be better to read something you enjoy. Same probably goes for conversations threads online about something you know you hate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3011392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru2012 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 To be fair, I'd love a variant of land raider that can carry a dreadnought. I would fit the background hole that there is when a marine army needs to travel 10km quickly to the next target and there is no thunderhawk support available due to ongoing battle for air dominance. Could you imagine a dread trying to waddle along behind everyone, "Wait up guys, I've only got a waddle speed!". Maybe ABD ca squeeze one in in his next HH novel, then hopefully peoples problems with it can be solved! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3011493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 This was one of the reasons why back in the day White Scars were retconed so that they didn't use dreadnoughts as they couldn't keep up with a biker heavy force. I like the idea of a stretched Rhino though, very cool concept although I wouldn't make it as long as the picture in the link for practical reasons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3011821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Keyaetus Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Maybe its a double decker bus style variant :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3011843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I noticed it as well, its an interesting concept. I can't remember though, does it say what's in it? it could be a supply transporter rather than an APC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3011852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennisBall Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 To be fair, I'd love a variant of land raider that can carry a dreadnought. I would fit the background hole that there is when a marine army needs to travel 10km quickly to the next target and there is no thunderhawk support available due to ongoing battle for air dominance. Could you imagine a dread trying to waddle along behind everyone, "Wait up guys, I've only got a waddle speed!". Maybe ABD ca squeeze one in in his next HH novel, then hopefully peoples problems with it can be solved! I don't see why a specialist rhino couldn't carry a dread rather than use a "rare" Land Raider chassis; it would be like a flatdeck truck though isn't that what storm ravens are for? If marines are trapped on the ground for long periods without access to their ships then they'd run out of ammo and other supplies quite quickly as they don't tend to deploy with machine shops, armouries etc. Look at what happened to the Raven Guard on Isstvan V and they were still able to use the weapons and armour of the traitors they killed, I don't know if 40k marines can use potentially tainted gear, xenos gear they likely would. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3013514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 It would depend on the individual Marine. And what Chapter they are from would most likely add to it as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3013517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
esinhorn Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I would say a six stacker not eight and you are cooking with gas B) I would not be surprised to see FW put one out. I for one would love a Marine support vehicle Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3015152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Stacius Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I think the advancer would be a more heavily armoured assault rhino. Maybe with a nice juicy assault ramp? Also, as regards a raider carrying a dread, I can see it happen in the same way a stormraven could. With some form of magna grapple maybe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3021415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techmarine Data007 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I seem to recall an assault ramp fitted to a Rhino, way back when. Though it could have been a conversion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3021461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru2012 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 This was one of the reasons why back in the day White Scars were retconed so that they didn't use dreadnoughts as they couldn't keep up with a biker heavy force. I like the idea of a stretched Rhino though, very cool concept although I wouldn't make it as long as the picture in the link for practical reasons. Heh! mod some bikes to attach to a dreads feet like skates, or just simply have a tracked dread, I think that would make more sense! But yeah, A rhino chassis would work better than a LR one for definite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3022517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Well back in the day you used to be able to fit a dread in a standard rhino, or 5 termies. But I'm old :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3025354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Those open topped stretch rhinos would have been very welcome in the new chaos codex, were we can have large units, and do have significant issues getting into assault. I don't suppose there's any rules for them, I've searched but not had much luck. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3212144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pall Ironbear Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 The HH collected visions book also has open topped rhino's, called Thunder Rhino's?, shown full of Space Wolves and skimmer Rhino's being used by the Custodes and Sisters of Silence, when they battled the daemons in the webway. I think that is a puntuation error in the caption for the picture. I read the caption as a Rhino named Leman's Thunder. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3212228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Those open topped stretch rhinos would have been very welcome in the new chaos codex, were we can have large units, and do have significant issues getting into assault. I don't suppose there's any rules for them, I've searched but not had much luck. :) I think that's a point of balance there. 15 Space Marines in a squad gives you some what of an advantage in certain situations - not being able to easily transport them takes some of that advantage away. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3212299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Traben Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Here's a pic from the HH: Collected Visions book. I assume that it's a Rhino Advancer, but i'm not a 100% sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3212358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count the7 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I realy enjoy DBs Books though its Dan Abbnet who seems to add Forge World "sneak peeks" in to his books (take the last Gaunts ghost book, a blatent trawl through the FW catalogue). The Rhino Advancer seems the logical way of moving large 20man squads around the battle field, other than paying out for a Spartan whith its 25man capacaty. Also mentioned is an old friend the Rhino Sabre with its masive main armourment (fluff has it that some times it was fitted with a vanquisher Cannon) With my Pre herecy army i havnt missed Razorbacks one bit, especialy as Rhinos can now have a Heavy Bolter/Multimelta/Havoc Launcher as well as the twin linked Bolter and still carry 10 Marines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3214452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hwarang Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Here's a pic from the HH: Collected Visions book. I assume that it's a Rhino Advancer, but i'm not a 100% sure. To me that just looks like a regular rhino with the top hatch all the way open. But I'm not 100% sure either. -CH Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3214592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Angel Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 No its obvious the top armor is gone. Also the bolter mounts have been changed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3216057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I believe it was supposed to be a normal rhino, with marines firing from the top rectangular hatch - I wouldn't take the flaw of the drawing showing it open all the way to the front seriously, since the Collected Visions artwork as cool as they are, they were created to the card game, not to really illustrate the game canon. I prefer to see them as iluminations adorning those old 30K books, being read by the 40K people ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3216106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It looks like there are 20ish dogs... err I mean wolves packed into the rhino It could be a larger open top variant (like a Gorgon is a giant open topped Chimera). Or artistic lisence Or wolves don't understand maimum transport capacity (it is a number above 3) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3216442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pall Ironbear Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Its a number above two. We count in one.....two......many.... So there are many wolves in a Rhino :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248556-rhino-variant/page/2/#findComment-3220984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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