Blackadder Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Nickeled and Dimed: Another FW tease displaying tantalizing bitz and pieces of the forthcoming Warlord titan. No Hollywood starlet ever received better hype regardless of the size of her guns. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/Blogs/NIM3DFG4D8_1EF58B.jpg You can tell by the painted areas that the titan is ready for display and FW is just milking this for all it's worth. Meanwhile since I already have a titan of sorts I can use these images to enhance the detail on my own construct... So there FW eat your hearts out; yours is only an attenuated Mars pattern also ran. Ha! Whom I kidding I've already mortgaged the abode to get one of these. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4029586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MordentHex Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/TXC0OXP.jpg I should really do a critique on how the only piece of hard evidence regarding the new FW Warlord employs the Warhound technology and why I decided that method of attachment was inadequate. This is what I wrote in 2012 in response to a question about "Why not use a ball/socket joint: "The model shows a disc shaped plate at the end of the shank that is not in the Warhound. I see no evidence of steering/tilting actuators as in the Warhound. The Warlord needn't be as quick or nimble as a Warhound any more than a battleship needs to emulate a destroyer and therefore doesn't require the flexibility the ball socket affords. Instead it has the benefit of the much stronger ankle attachment with one axis above and one axis below the disc that incidentally is similar to the way the human foot works that also does not employ a ball/socket arrangement although nature does have ball and socket joints elsewhere in the body i.e. shoulder and hip. You're not going to quibble with the Grand Designer are you? Also you have to remember that the ball/socket in the Warhound is not the ankle. The actual ankle is the joint above the greaves. which cannot turn or swivel. What the ball/socket is corresponds to the so-called ball of our foot directly behind the toes. The Warhound actually walks/runs on tiptoes as we do when we run. It's an entirely different means of locomotion." I agree, That ball socket is completely incapable of bearing the load of weight it will be required to even stand, much less walk. It requires a different joint setup along with very heavy hydraulics.That ball socket may take the weight of a reaver MAYBE! Your work is amazing by the way! If i ever make a Warlord i will be sure to copy a lot of your stuff. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4029732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePhy Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Can't wait to see a side by side comparison! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4029777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 The head came out today so it looks like a breach birth....... http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/Blogs/GRN5FDGH5F_DGH6H59E.jpg I'm pleased with the overall shape of the head but the size is a concern. Obviously there must be a 3 man cockpit crew so it has to be bigger than the Reaver head. The 'Face' is long rather than squat like the Reaver so I see a lot of the Dave Smith version and my own. In the FW tradition the cockpit helmet comes off to reveal the interior; I guess it's just a case of wait and see how the sizes compare. FW is sticking with the ball gimbal neck so the head won't be movable; that's disappointing but can be circumvented. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4038337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePhy Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Stupid question Mr. Adder, but that is the GW head correct? Unless you've been working on some Super-Secret-Stuff... On a side note, I do like the coloring that they have done. I like the patinas. StevePhy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4039012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Yeah I forgot to note that this is the FW model that hasn't been released yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4039578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MordentHex Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 thats a big head.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4039782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 Meh! I have to say after all the hype the debut poster is rather uninspired: http://i.imgur.com/tghnnwN.jpg The painting is pretty mediocre and the model looks like all the recent gangling Mars kniggets that FW has been offering. What a disappointment............... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4044086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 To be fair, FW is running a totally different aesthetic to classic 40k art. I think they're working more within the constraints of their casting process and trying to make models they can feasibly ship across the oceans than paying attention to the traditional designs. That said, your Warlord actually looks like the one from the cover of Titanicus, so for me that wins out. Don't get me wrong, I love the cleanness of the FW sculpts, but to some extent their newer stuff (Deredeo Dreadnought comes to mind) just looks too streamlined and futuristic for 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4044230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 http://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/10408832_893423924049416_1664364288038153755_n.jpg A real image in the flesh, er, resin........... albeit with an alternate Helmet............. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4044376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREY88 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Wow that looks stupid compared to the older GW titans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4044651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argun Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I wouldn't say it looks stupid, it just looks different.It kinda like those old Armorcast titans, and the Mars pattern titans seem to like the more rounded approach to armors. Although I think they could've done better with the top weapons on this version of the Warlord (they look way too exposed to me) The traditional titans we all think of when we think WARLORD are more akin to the Lucius pattern. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4044888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Whether you like the look is a matter of taste and yes there's design flaws but the 40k universe is one of the last places to bother saying 'I think that looks stupid'. Some may concur. Some might not. It doesn't bring much to a conversation though, does it? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4044897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Callidan Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 It looks just like the old Warlord Titan to me. I just don't know how your going to move the darn thing around. It's the size of a small child. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4045205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I don't know about Blackadder, but I'm building a small dolly for mine. I don't know how FW's version only comes to 7 kg... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4045328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 My Two Cents: There's nothing wrong with buying models, I've bought many in my time but the cost of models and resin models in particular has skyrocketed over the past few years and something must be done (at least in my case 'cause my kids gotta eat....) to offset the dollar drain. I offered an alternative and try to show what can be done when your budget won't allow dumping thousands of hard earned dollars on miniatures. A good case in point are the incredible Russian 40K forums that specialize in paper craft; producing high quality FW models out of paper. I learned a lot from joining those sites and believe me many of the artists there would put any one of us to shame with their skill at reproducing models indistinguishable for the resin originals. Now FW has offered what I consider a pretty mediocre $2000 dollar Warlord capitalizing on their name and rep. The model is nothing more than an undersized up scaled 'Knight' titan with very little innovation and imagination in it's execution and presentation (cripes couldn't they show it as a side by side with a Reaver and Warhound???? They wouldn't dare because it's too small!!! A minimum of 26 inches by their own formula is the requisite size for a Warlord and theirs computes 3 inches deficient.......). I'm thankful that I built my own Warlord but had they offered a reasonable production Mars Warlord uncompromised in size and grandeur I would have had my order in already. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4052840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MordentHex Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I think my Reaver is about the same size as that warlord...that's disappointing. Yours is way way better! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4053034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 It's a nice enough model but it looks more like a Warmachine Colossal than a Warhammer 40k Titan. I think that's the biggest problem I have with it; they tried to stay too true to current modelling/style trends and didn't pay homage to the original (unique) design. So yes, the FW Warlord Titan is new, therefore it's bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4053079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeller Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I feel like the choice to make this pattern of warlord titan was mostly due in part to the cost of making those ridiculous beetle plates on the torso. So much resin and curvature. It's still cool for a giant robot but it's no BNC-3S. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4053090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Amen, Blackadder! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4053226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lykos Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I like the Beetle back titan but I agree I don't think it is big enough and its mass is just to little if you ask me. Your Warlord on the other hand is hands down one of the best I have ever seen and at a level that sets the bar when attempting a build such as this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4053229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Truckin Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 We have True Scale conversions for Marines. It would be great to see a True Scale conversion Kit for a Warlord. I'm also VERY interested in hearing how these first kits build up. It just looks like a potentially top heavy weight for resin to support. Back on topic - I wish I had the skills to pull off a scratch build like this. I'd love to see a side by side comparison one day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4053616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionofjudah Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I love your skills blackadder and am grateful for your love of the Lucius forge world as the Mars is just not my style. Also the scale creep is somewhat disappointing as the warlord is legend and towers over the reaver majestically... At least in the fluff... And in the case of most scratch builds. I'm happy FW has made something for the $$$ folks and if it's successful then we will continue to see bigger and badder models from them. I like to look at the pretties I just know that I would need to save my hobby $ for 2 years to contemplate one of those beasts. For me, I'll take my Archeon and some big tanks any day over a Titan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4053633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Thanks for the reply and I have some interesting information regarding the size of the new Warlord. E.L.M.E.R. Gantry: I've been thinking of making a base for my titans ever since I built them instead putting them on a shelf. I was walking past a neighbor's house the other day and they were throwing out one of those cheap plastic shelf units and there it was, the perfect setting for my titans with room enough for three. http://i.imgur.com/XXzuZ9F.jpg http://i.imgur.com/XXzuZ9Fl.jpg The unit is tall enough to accommodate the Warlord with swing away arms overhead cranes and with a few girders, and staircases, safety rails, and intermediate maintenance platforms this could make the ideal display stand /display case. http://i.imgur.com/XUz53ZD.jpg http://i.imgur.com/XUz53ZDl.jpg With lighting, maintenance vehicles, and personnel this could be quite a focal point in my den. http://i.imgur.com/v1LCohL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/v1LCohLl.jpg Now I need a group of descriptive words for the acronym E.L.M.E.R. Any ideas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4062132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 ExtremelyLargeMetalExecutioner Robot Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/32/#findComment-4062160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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