SickSix Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Yup, I would much rather have one of your Lucius Pattern Warlords than the Mars patter. If the Mars Warlord would have come out BEFORE the knights, we probably would think higher of it, but alas now we just look at it as an upsized knight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4062201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeller Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Expandable Lift & Machine Enhancement-Repair Gantry Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4062229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Got it: EXTRAVEHICULAR LEGIOS MECHANICUS EVALUATION & REPAIR Gantry Thanks for all the suggestions, I got the two 'E's '&' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4062293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Found a size comparison picture that might be useful for ya: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RFh1bacsOWA/VWnKpJSZRhI/AAAAAAAA0VM/VjJY5BWtL9A/s640/Titans.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4064765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Thanks for all your work. BlackAdder, found something on Natfka you might be interested in. http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/warlord-titan-comparisons-from.html http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RFh1bacsOWA/VWnKpJSZRhI/AAAAAAAA0VM/VjJY5BWtL9A/s1600/Titans.jpg Finally a comparison shot and thank you. It's what I have always thought since first seeing the new titan (and pretty much the mistake I made when I did a concept study of my Warlord in scrap plastic paneling): Written 2010/8/16 when I had just started my Lucius Warlord........... Whew, were has the summer gone? I had hopes of rendering the basic structure and working on the detail this winter but no such luck plus there are serious errors in scale comparing the the body to the legs and waist. Just to prove the Blackadder is as fallible as they come here is my effort thus far ridiculously out of proportion. The legs are easily 2 to 4 inches too short and the model as it stands is only 19 inches tall. By adding 4 inches to the legs and topping the carapace with the void shield generator housings that should bring it to the goal height of 28 inches. http://i.imgur.com/zyOR4rAl.jpg The difference is I recognized my mistake; it looks like FW studied it and copied it, Ha!. When I build this ( The FW Warlord) I shall lengthen the legs at least 3 inches.......... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4065231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Oh, so you are going to get one now? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4065232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 I had assumed I would purchase one eventually but I have a lot of projects before then and I keep getting disappoint hints that everything is too small[ ahem! meaning the cockpit/visor assembly and the Main cannon of course. I have a friend who is going to furnish detailed measurements when he returns from vacation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4065395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I had assumed I would purchase one eventually but I have a lot of projects before then and I keep getting disappoint hints that everything is too small[ ahem! meaning the cockpit/visor assembly and the Main cannon of course. I have a friend who is going to furnish detailed measurements when he returns from vacation. You should just send forgeworld a resume and become a sculptor! At least then well know thing will be properly scaled for the big stuff :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4065433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I had assumed I would purchase one eventually but I have a lot of projects before then and I keep getting disappoint hints that everything is too small[ ahem! meaning the cockpit/visor assembly and the Main cannon of course. I have a friend who is going to furnish detailed measurements when he returns from vacation. I'll be very interested to see those numbers. Thank you very much! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4065478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Some people seem less than happy that I am less than happy with the scale of the new official Warlord titan but the main criticism I received when build my model was, "It's 'way too small." Now it appears,"It's 'way too large" (A complaint I regrettably concede has not been forthcoming in other areas.) Had FW offered their diminutive M.B.Titan before I built mine I would have gladly built mine accordingly instead of possessing the outsized 500 pound gorilla in the room as would the case seem at present. Ha! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4066889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 In Epic, wasn't the Lucius pattern larger than the Mars pattern? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4066893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 E.L.M.E.R. Gantry: I took a week of to arrange my work area as things were getting pretty messy with all the projects going at once and I was rapidly running out of work space. I did manage to cut out the intermediate deck of the E.L.M.E.R. Gantry (EXTRAVEHICULAR LEGIOS MECHANICUS EVALUATION & REPAIR Gantry) to receive the fully assembled Warlord; the gantry takes up all my paint work table space and hopefully when finished will provide both a display diorama fitting for such a construct plus a safe container to house the model in in one piece rather than separate the hull from the legs to prevent toppling as I do now. http://i.imgur.com/atyfd1n.jpg http://i.imgur.com/atyfd1nl.jpg Something seems wrong with the focus on my camera but in the images presented ther is the new beginning of the command deck hologram tactical display plus a Space Marine for scale. http://i.imgur.com/zaIi3OR.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zaIi3ORl.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4073292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickSix Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 So freaking cool. It never gets old. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4073482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 Thank you; I appreciate that critique. The following is in answer to a post on another forum but it pretty well delineates my intentions regarding this construction: Some Thoughts on My Warlord Titan Hangar: Granted in it's initial state being fresh (Ahem; figuratively speaking) out of the recycling bin it is little more than a set of cheap plastic shelves but yes I am going to add beam mounted e.g. four way overhead track traveling cranes with electromagnetic lifting heads (Rare earth magnets) on all four levels for moving heavy components. and: http://www.aplecgroup.com/INGLES/imagenes/fotos/Minelli%20web/Electroim%E1n%20(6).jpg Plus catwalks aplenty, recessed tracks for small cranes, and hangar support vehicles, oodles of suitable pseudo-religious 40K artifacts, tech priest enclaves, and I'm hoping to find 28 MM ground maintenance personnel and a few Sentinel Heavy Lifters to dress up the hangar. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step............. Don't forget, my Lucius Warlord was once just so many styrene sheets and recycled bottlecaps... Ha! My goal is to make a stable display stand/diorama for my titan to be stored in when not in play as while it does have the capability of standing unaided for days on end it has toppled over on occasion incurring time consuming repairs. I'd prefer not to have to be continually rebuilding it. Plus this will make a handy storage/display area for my other two titans as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4105059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiation Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Looking forward to seeing your titan garage happen. Good imagery in the description. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4105497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Blank Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Are you building a forgeworld? Seriously though, this is an awesome idea. A model like your Titan deserves a good display area and the hangar is a tremendous theme for one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4105509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 Thanks for the replies. I wanted to make a display that would also protect the model and be a bit different from the usual battlefield motif. Being a mechanic for most of my life what could be more natural than a hangar/gantry with support personnel and vehicles prepping the monster for battle and repairing damage. I have to admit I drew inspiration from the game SM Invictus; what a pity Invictus didn't make his way out of the hangar........ That would have been an awesome sight as the camera drew back from him standing in the doorway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4106561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 An Interesting Image: Found this comparison image on the internet and superimposed the skulls which are virtually the same size. http://i.imgur.com/9lAmRIm.jpg One might extrapolate based on this image that the Lucius Warlord stands taller than the Mars by a considerable amount. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4107096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 As yours is closer to the Lucius pattern, does that make you feel better? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4107097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 This is footage from THQ's Space Marine game. On the Forgeworld of Graia rests the Warlord Battle Titan Invictus and the footage shows her hanger on the war-torn planet. Thought it might be of interest, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4107152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Don't think of it as you making it too big, look at it as tem making it too small. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4107308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 An Interesting Image: Found this comparison image on the internet and superimposed the skulls which are virtually the same size. http://i.imgur.com/9lAmRIm.jpg One might extrapolate based on this image that the Lucius Warlord stands taller than the Mars by a considerable amount. I did a rough mock-up based on the dimensions of the 40K Lucius-pattern that I'm working on, using the Reaver as my yardstick. I think that ours are comparable in height. http://i.imgur.com/1pgxxbUl.png That's almost spot-on! It would seem that everyone was correct in their selection of scales. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4107415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I really like the re-purposed shelving that you're using as the base structure to build on. With all of the ribbing it looks great at that scale with virtually no effort, and it will save some time once you get building. It just goes to show that scale is everything, and even mundane items can become amazing models with a little creativity. I'm constantly looking at everyday objects for their modeling and conversion potential. So awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4107742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MordentHex Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 An Interesting Image: Found this comparison image on the internet and superimposed the skulls which are virtually the same size. http://i.imgur.com/9lAmRIm.jpg One might extrapolate based on this image that the Lucius Warlord stands taller than the Mars by a considerable amount. I did a rough mock-up based on the dimensions of the 40K Lucius-pattern that I'm working on, using the Reaver as my yardstick. I think that ours are comparable in height. http://i.imgur.com/1pgxxbUl.png That's almost spot-on! It would seem that everyone was correct in their selection of scales. If that is a correct scaling of the FW warlord to the this his Lucius than sorry but the FW model is still a bit small on scale. the top armor on the Mars pattern should come up to the Chin of the Lucius. It look so unimpressive next to the Lucius ascetically in my eyes. I would rather scratch build mine than buy this downsized, yet stunning model. The scaling is just to off putting for me to really take it serious. It looks like a super Knight. Yes. Blackadder should work for FW so that they can get their super heavy vehicle scaling right for once. I mean if your going to go big, go big or go home right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4109272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Well, I did say "almost spot-on". It's a lot closer to the original Epic scaling than I thought, and shows that neither 40k versions are seriously incorrect. FW was true to the pattern they chose, as was Blackadder - the slight difference is well within the margin of expected variation, compared to many other Epic-to-40K comparisons.Although I'm definitely a dedicated Lucius fanboy, I do have to be fair. The new Mars pattern Warlord is incredibly faithful to the original design, possibly more so than the new Knights: http://i.imgur.com/0cP7OdQl.png I'd say that everyone is doing an excellent job, and especially Blackadder. Absolutely fantastic work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248599-blackadders-warlord-wip/page/33/#findComment-4109286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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