New Legion or Chapter From The Great Crusade Era

[ScottishSmurf96]

(remember I'm 14)

 

Hey dude im 15! Your age doesn't matter just do some backround research when forming ideas, If your really new to the hobby you'll learn from the friendly folk of B&C they won't look down on you. ;)

 

Tom

[UltraWorldWolves]

(remember I'm 14)

 

Hey dude im 15! Your age doesn't matter just do some backround research when forming ideas, If your really new to the hobby you'll learn from the friendly folk of B&C they won't look down on you. ;)

 

Tom

Wow. It's. Nice to know someone in my same age group. And I'm actually turning 15 in like 2 weeks :)

[UltraWorldWolves]

Ok I swear this will be the last pic and I was wondering if anybody could suggest a good gw color for dusk.

[Octavulg]

The Dusk Tiger/Panthers were formulated during the 21st founding in late M36 and are one of the chapters to have suffered severe mutations in the gene seed most notably the predatory eyes and feline like front teeth.

 

OK, but the Cursed Founding generally set out to improve Space Marines (the three I've never been able to figure out are the Flame Falcons, the Relictors, and the Fire Hawks). What were they trying to accomplish with your guys? If they ended up being all felinoid, presumably it'd be something cat-related.

 

Note that you don't have to include that information in the text, it's just a good thing to know.

 

They have had many victories against the orks and surprisingly their ritual burnings of the dead bodies have had much effect in terms of span of time between ork incursions.

 

While I like the idea, unless they're ritually burning the whole planet it doesn't seem like it'd be enough. Ork spores get everywhere.

 

They are closely acsociated with the famous Valhallan Ice Warriors and have helped them in their defense of major ork incursions mainly in assassinating priority target ork leaders.

 

Coltchis is a marsh world surrounded by swamps miles wide while the little land that their is is inhabitated by people who believe in the art of hunting animals.

 

You mean covered. Surrounded is around. Worlds are surrounded mostly by vacuum.

 

A marsh world would have to be really flat, so it'd likely be getting old.

 

Skining the fur off the body of ones first kill and then adorning it with tokens of fallen beasts to landmark an event. This is reflected in the chapter for a chosen boy to become a full space marine he has to hunt and kill a lolf a giant wolf with a lion like mane.

 

My mental image of that wolf is actually a little silly. Why not just a giant lion?

 

Combat Doctrine

The Dusk Tigers/Panthers follow the codex Astartes with one minor divergence. They take with them from their life before their rise to space marine the art of the hunt they learn and improve upon their ability to track and identify xenos creatures.They fight in a style of controlled fury knowing when and where they should release their true power. They are learned in letting their prey not know when they are there. The reason that they believe in this divergence is that they do not have as rigorous hypno therapy mainly so they can remember there teachings of their tribes style of hunt. They believe in the value of memories.

 

How's that a divergence, exactly?

 

I'd say it'd make more sense for them to interpret the codex through their experiences as hunters. They stalk the prey, isolate it from its fellows, and bring it down. Then they do it again. If the prey panic and flee, they follow, striking when the prey is vulnerable. That sort of thing.

 

Also, hypno therapy varies wildly in depiction, but Space Marines definitely CAN remember things from before their recruitment.

 

Organization

The Dusk Tigers/Panthers are codex adherent except that they are split into war tribes instead of companies, fire chieftains instead of captains, and the earth talkers instead of chaplains. These are mainly just titles but are deeply connected in meaning to their past life and beliefs.

 

Sure.

 

Though 'tribe' suggests a genetic relationship. It'd make sense to either call them warbands or to have there be a genetic relationship or some other bond.

 

Beliefs

The Dusk Tigers/Panthers shun the use of librarians as they feel that they are too susceptible to the warp. They believe in the holding of memories so there indoctrination is not as rigourous in terms of hypno therapy. They believe to betray ones faith and brothers is the -worst of all wrong doings.

 

Primitive cat-men with messed-up genetics don't like librarians?

 

Gene seed

The Dusk Tigers/Panthers are most likely descended from the Raven Guard but unfortunately most of their records are gone. It is rumored that the Dusk Tigers/Panthers were mixed with another gene seed but none can say.

 

Aha!

 

Idea: The Raven Guard geneseed is unstable. Thus, in your guys, it was melded with elements of the...hmm. Ultramarines'd be the obvious choice. This was successful, and the scientists tried to bring out added speed, strength, and group loyalty. Worked, but there's some twistedness.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Also, a good rule of thumb about writing about Cursed FOunding chapters: the words "rumour" and "theory" are your friends when talking about the chapter's creation and history. The Cursed FOunding is mysterious, and so it's a good idea to be a little mysterious as well.

 

Not too much, mind you.

 

Dusk's grey, IMO. Maybe mostly dark grey with a few black and yellow touches?

[UltraWorldWolves]

OK Otavulg I will try to include what they were trying to achieve in the creation of this chapter. In the case of ritual burning I would probably edit the enemy that they specialize against. The thing about the planet is simply my loss for words thank you for telling me about that. Giant lion I could o with that I was just trying to combine my 2 favorite animals. The combat doctrine thing is me kinda being lazy as I was very tired at the time that's why there will be many many drafts. I would rather keep it war tribes so maybe some sort of Blood sharing ritual or something like that. I personally don't like librarians as they can be too unstable in my experiences although I am open too the idea as I love the description of the librarians powers in Salamander. Thank you lord! I was looking for a valid excuse to put something like that in (mixing of Ultramarine and Raven Guard geneseed). Thanks Octavulg! :(

 

PS Have you read my second draft yet?

[ScottishSmurf96]

Is your chapter still hunter themed? If so bikers and landspeeders are good units for them :(

[UltraWorldWolves]

Yeah they're still hunter themed but I'm not so sure about land speeders and bikes.

[Octavulg]

OK Otavulg I will try to include what they were trying to achieve in the creation of this chapter.

 

Don't worry about including it! Just know it! So long as there IS a good reason for that, it's not actually that important.

 

Giant lion I could o with that I was just trying to combine my 2 favorite animals.

 

Cats and dogs don't play well together. Fact.

 

The combat doctrine thing is me kinda being lazy as I was very tired at the time that's why there will be many many drafts.

 

Laziness is the enemy of a good IA. Then again, many drafts is the usual source of a good one, so it probably balances out. :P

 

I would rather keep it war tribes so maybe some sort of Blood sharing ritual or something like that.

 

Sounds like a plan.

 

I personally don't like librarians as they can be too unstable in my experiences although I am open too the idea as I love the description of the librarians powers in Salamander.

 

They can be unpredictable. But superstituous hunter tribesmen seem like the sort of guys who'd like a guy who can shoot lightning from his hand and see the future.

 

Thank you lord! I was looking for a valid excuse to put something like that in (mixing of Ultramarine and Raven Guard geneseed). Thanks Octavulg! biggrin.gif

 

It's cause I'm awesome.

 

PS Have you read my second draft yet?

 

I skimmed it. It looks a lot like the first. Which is much less annoying than looking nothing like the first, so that's OK. I think most of the stuff I said still applies. :)

[UltraWorldWolves]

I agree You are really awesome. Anywho here's round 3. Next one after this one will be final. Oh and Octavulg can I write an official article like the ones you do when I'm done with final?

Index Astartes: Dusk Tigers

Origins

The Dusk Tiger were formulated during the 21st founding in late M36 and are one of the chapters to have suffered severe mutations in the gene seed most notably the predatory eyes and feline like front teeth. The theory behind the Dusk Tigers creation is that at the time the Ultima Segmentum was under constant attack by the Orks and was increasingly challenging to the imperial guard regiments stationed there so in response the Dusk Tigers were created. As they are a young chapter they are eager to prove themselves but have been set back by many unfortunate events like the inquisitions investigation to determine whether they retain spiritual purity.

Kolarden

The Dusk Tigers homeworld is primarily based in the Ultima Segmentum part of the galaxy. They are closely acsociated with the famous Valhallan Ice Warriors and have helped them in their defense of major ork incursions mainly in assassinating priority target ork leaders. Kolarden is an ancient marsh world dating back to the years of the Great Crusade. This marsh world is enveloped by swamps hundreds of miles wide while the little land that their is is inhabitated by primitive people who believe in the art of hunting animals. Skining the fur off the body of ones first kill and then adorning it with tokens of fallen beasts to landmark an event. This is reflected in the chapter for a chosen boy to become a full space marine he has to hunt and kill a a giant predatory cat resembling the majestic lion of ancient terra.There culture system reflects upon the ancient Inuits in that they are heavily featured in hunting and that if you cannot hunt for yourself then you are just another mouth to feed.This is why there recruitment is slow as most young children on Kolarden cannot hunt. But this is also why their initiates have the best training there can be in the art of war.

Combat Doctrine

The Dusk Tigers follow the codex Astartes just in their own interpretation. They take with them from their life before their rise to space marine the art of the hunt they learn and improve upon their ability to track and identify xenos creatures.Whence they find their quarry they fight in a style of controlled fury knowing when and where they should release their true power. They are learned in letting their prey not know when they are there .Being that these are their preferred styles of warfare their main strategy of war is stalk the quarry, isolate from the group, then pounce and kill. In that there War Tribes(see below)are very diverse in the style of hunting as there sky chieftain(see below) teaches them there original tribes style of hunt. They believe in the value of memories.

Organization

The Dusk Tigers are codex adherent except that they are split into war tribes instead of companies, sky chieftains instead of captains, earth talkers instead of chaplains, a fire seer instead of librarians. Whence an initiate passes their tests they and one other or bonded in a sharing of blood ritual the pair then are sworn into a war tribe by sharing blood with their sky chieftain. In that a new sky chieftain is never chosen outside of the war tribe. The Dusk Tigers have no scouts and instead train an initiate for longer than other chapters. Surprisingly the Dusk Tigers seem to disdain the newer equipment like the Mk7 Aquila armour. The armour they tend to use more is theMk2 Crusade, the Mk3 Iron, and the Mk4 Maximus armour types. They tend to favor the Phobos pattern bolter and the Umbra pattern bolter. No one seems to know how they are able to acquire this equipment in such large volumes.

Beliefs

They believe in the holding of memories so there indoctrination is only in its most basic form in terms of hypno therapy so the organs can properly function. They believe to betray ones faith and brothers is the worst of all wrong doings. The ability to hunt is required to be chosen for one to enter the tests. The art of the hunt is one of the most important things in the Dusk Tigers belief system. If one cannot hunt one does not deserve to serve the Emperor.

Gene seed

The Dusk Tigers are most likely descended from the Raven Guard. It is rumored that the Dusk Tigers were mixed with Ultramarine gene seed to better the stability of Raven Guard gene seed while also improving speed, group loyalty, and strength. Unfortunately all records have been lost as to where there gene seed originated from.

Battle cry

Before the battle is begun the Dusk Tigers choose to enter mass prayer to the emperor that there quarry might be killed and that if they fall that day that he might visit upon them before there passing.

[UltraWorldWolves]

Average Brother Marine

Origins

T

he Dusk Lions were formulated during the 21st founding in late M36 and are one of the chapters to have suffered severe mutations in the gene seed most notably the predatory eyes and feline like front teeth. The theory behind the Dusk Tigers creation is that at the time the Ultima Segmentum was under constant attack by the Orks and was getting increasingly challenging for the Imperial Guard regiments stationed there so in response the Dusk Lions were created. As they are a young chapter they are eager to prove themselves but have been set back by many unfortunate events like the inquisitions investigation to determine whether they retain spiritual purity despite their mutations. Another event was the rising predator Quallu an ancient breed of fishlike humanoid that killed the children that got too close. There simply was not enough hunters in tribes to kill the Quallu, hunt for food, and teach the surviving boys how to hunt. In response the Heaven Lord himself (See Organization) and other hand picked marines went on a mass hunt. This lasted for 3 Terran years until finally the Heaven Lord and his retinue returned draped in the skin of slain Quallu.

Kolarden

T

he Dusk Lions homeworld is primarily based in the Ultima Segmentum part of the galaxy. They are closely acsociated with the famous Valhallan Ice Warriors and have helped them in their defense of major ork incursions mainly in assassinating priority target ork leaders. Kolarden is an ancient marsh world dating back to the years of the Great Crusade. This marsh world is enveloped by swamps hundreds of miles wide while the little land that their is is inhabitated by people who believe in the art of hunting animals. Skining the fur off the body of ones first kill and then adorning it with tokens of fallen beasts to landmark an event. This is reflected in the chapter for a chosen boy to become a full space marine he has to hunt and kill a a giant predatory cat called a Leonine closely resembling the majestic lion of ancient terra.There culture system reflects upon the Inuits of ancient Terra. In that they are heavily featured in hunting and that if you cannot hunt for yourself then you are just another mouth to feed.This is why there recruitment is slow as most young children on Kolarden cannot hunt. But this is also why their initiates have the best training there can be in the art of war.

Combat Doctrine

T

he Dusk Lions follow the codex Astartes just in their own interpretation. They take with them from their life before their rise to space marine the art of the hunt. They learn and improve upon their ability to track and identify xenos creatures.Whence they find their quarry they fight in a style of controlled fury knowing when and where they should strike. They are learned in letting their prey not know when they are there .Being that these are their preferred styles of warfare their main strategy of war is stalk the quarry, isolate from the group, then pounce and kill. There War Tribes(see below)are very diverse in the style of hunting as there respective Sky Lord(see below) teaches them their original tribes style of hunt.

Organization

T

he Dusk Lions are codex adherent except that they are split into War Tribes instead of companies, Sky Lords instead of captains, Fire Seers instead of librarians, and finally the Heaven Lord instead of a chapter master. These are mainly just titles but are deep in meaning to the Dusk Lions. Whence an initiate passes their tests they and one other are bonded in a sharing of blood ritual the pair then are sworn into a War Tribe by sharing blood with their Sky Lord. There can never be a new Sky Lord chosen outside of the War Tribe and never can one be moved to a different War Tribe. The Dusk Lions have no scouts and instead train an initiate for longer periods of time compared to other chapters. Surprisingly the Dusk Lions seem to disdain the newer equipment like the Mk7 Aquila armour. The armour they tend to use more is the Mk2 Crusade, the Mk3 Iron, and the Mk4 Maximus armour types. They tend to favor the Phobos pattern bolter and the Umbra pattern bolter. No one seems to know how they are able to acquire such archaic wargear in such large volumes.

Beliefs

T

he Dusk Lions believe in the holding of memories. They believe to betray ones faith and brothers is the worst of all wrong doings. The Dusk Lions are highly superstitious so they always have with them at least one Fire Seer so they may keep back the daemons of the warp and sift through the warp to decipher the next major event as they are highly skilled and accurate in their predictions. Of course the Fire Seers have their Apprentices nearby as this is the 41st millennium and even they are not immortal.

Gene Seed

A

ccording to rumors the Dusk Lions are most likely descended from the Raven Guard. It is also rumored that the Dusk Lions were mixed with Ultramarine gene seed to better the stability of the Raven Guard gene seed while also improving speed, group loyalty, and strength. Unfortunately all records have been lost as to where there gene seed originated from.

Battle Cry

B

efore the battle is begun the Dusk Lions choose to enter mass prayer to the emperor that there quarry might be killed and that if they fall that day that he might visit upon them before there passing. The Dusk Lions have no specific battle cry but are known for inspirational displays of heroism.

[UltraWorldWolves]

Yay it's done and finished! My English teacher would be proud.

[NightrawenII]

Hell-o here, just a few thoughts.

 

"Victory is worthless unless your quarrys head is taken"

- I would use 'prey', rather than 'mine'. :sick:

 

Origins

As they are a young chapter they are eager to prove themselves but have been set back by many unfortunate events like the inquisitions investigation to determine whether they retain spiritual purity despite their mutations.

- The present tense in Origins section is misplaced. You talk about things in the past, not in the present. Hence 'origins'.

 

Kolarden

The Dusk Lions homeworld is primarily based in the Ultima Segmentum part of the galaxy.

- 'Primarily' is superfluous here. Planets don't wander around.

 

There culture system reflects upon the Inuits of ancient Terra. In that they are heavily featured in hunting and that if you cannot hunt for yourself then you are just another mouth to feed.

- Inuits are memory, old over 30.000 years.

- If you revere memory, then you revere the elder. In other words, not someone, who can hunt for himself.

 

This is why there recruitment is slow as most young children on Kolarden cannot hunt. But this is also why their initiates have the best training there can be in the art of war.

- Clarification needed.

 

Combat Doctrine

- There is short-story, Twelve Wolves. You should read it.

 

Organisation

The Dusk Lions have no scouts and instead train an initiate for longer periods of time compared to other chapters.

- Why?

 

Beliefs

The Dusk Lions believe in the holding of memories.

- How? and Why?

- Do they hold grudges?

 

 

~NightrawenII.

[Ace Debonair]

Righto. Now, since you're new here, I'll stick a wee disclaimer up here.

Us folks at Liber, when doing C&C, focus more or less entirely on the negative aspects, highlighting the areas we personally feel could be better in one aspect or another.

More specifically, that's what I'll be doing below. ^_^

It's not in any way a personal attack or anything like that, my single and sole motivation is to help you get the best out of your ideas and your chapter.

OK, now the disclaimer's out of the way, on with the show! :D

T

he Dusk Lions were formulated during the 21st founding in late M36 and are one of the chapters to have suffered severe mutations in the gene seed most notably the predatory eyes and feline like front teeth. The theory behind the Dusk Tigers creation is that at the time the Ultima Segmentum was under constant attack by the Orks and was getting increasingly challenging for the Imperial Guard regiments stationed there so in response the Dusk Lions were created. As they are a young chapter they are eager to prove themselves but have been set back by many unfortunate events like the inquisitions investigation to determine whether they retain spiritual purity despite their mutations. Another event was the rising predator Quallu an ancient breed of fishlike humanoid that killed the children that got too close. There simply was not enough hunters in tribes to kill the Quallu, hunt for food, and teach the surviving boys how to hunt. In response the Heaven Lord himself (See Organization) and other hand picked marines went on a mass hunt. This lasted for 3 Terran years until finally the Heaven Lord and his retinue returned draped in the skin of slain Quallu.

I'm not sure what you're driving at here.

I think you mean there was a super-crazy fishman breed on your marines' homeworld that needed wiping out, but it reads more like a group of interplanetary fish-men that were a threat to the galaxy.

Also, which is it - Dusk Lions or Dusk Tigers?

T

he Dusk Lions homeworld is primarily based in the Ultima Segmentum part of the galaxy. They are closely acsociated with the famous Valhallan Ice Warriors and have helped them in their defense of major ork incursions mainly in assassinating priority target ork leaders. Kolarden is an ancient marsh world dating back to the years of the Great Crusade. This marsh world is enveloped by swamps hundreds of miles wide while the little land that their is is inhabitated by people who believe in the art of hunting animals. Skining the fur off the body of ones first kill and then adorning it with tokens of fallen beasts to landmark an event. This is reflected in the chapter for a chosen boy to become a full space marine he has to hunt and kill a a giant predatory cat called a Leonine closely resembling the majestic lion of ancient terra.There culture system reflects upon the Inuits of ancient Terra. In that they are heavily featured in hunting and that if you cannot hunt for yourself then you are just another mouth to feed.This is why there recruitment is slow as most young children on Kolarden cannot hunt. But this is also why their initiates have the best training there can be in the art of war.

I'd kick the highlighted sentence right out.

Bear in mind, your average Imperial scholar will have absolutely no idea such a culture existed, let alone what they were like.

Also from a writing perspective, it's better to describe how they were similar to the Inuits than simply say they were.

You've done that quite well in the next sentence, actually.

T

he Dusk Lions are codex adherent except that they are split into War Tribes instead of companies, Sky Lords instead of captains, Fire Seers instead of librarians, and finally the Heaven Lord instead of a chapter master. These are mainly just titles but are deep in meaning to the Dusk Lions. Whence an initiate passes their tests they and one other are bonded in a sharing of blood ritual the pair then are sworn into a War Tribe by sharing blood with their Sky Lord. There can never be a new Sky Lord chosen outside of the War Tribe and never can one be moved to a different War Tribe. The Dusk Lions have no scouts and instead train an initiate for longer periods of time compared to other chapters. Surprisingly the Dusk Lions seem to disdain the newer equipment like the Mk7 Aquila armour. The armour they tend to use more is the Mk2 Crusade, the Mk3 Iron, and the Mk4 Maximus armour types. They tend to favor the Phobos pattern bolter and the Umbra pattern bolter. No one seems to know how they are able to acquire such archaic wargear in such large volumes.

Why did they change the names of those offices, though? How are the selected names deep in meaning?

You could explore that in the Chapter's history - it'd help you fill that out, as well as removing the need for all the (see below) stuff.

Mk7 armour isn't actually all that new.

The thing is, whilst you could write a nice cordial relationship with the Adeptus Mechanicus as a reason to get all the older marks, they're (in story at least) fairly rare.

If you're interested in having a cordial relationship with the AdMech anyway, one way you could do it would be thus: Since your chapter relies a lot on their feral, tribal nature, you could have them distrusting of any technology that isn't approved by the people who dedicate themselves to it's study and use. As a result, when your marines happen across unusual technological trinkets, they hand them to your Techmarines who send them off to Mars for study with all possible haste.

As a result, I suppose the AdMech might feel generous enough to reward you with some recently-recovered older marks of armour in place of the usual shipments of mk7 gear for a while.

T

he Dusk Lions believe in the holding of memories. They believe to betray ones faith and brothers is the worst of all wrong doings. The Dusk Lions are highly superstitious so they always have with them at least one Fire Seer so they may keep back the daemons of the warp and sift through the warp to decipher the next major event as they are highly skilled and accurate in their predictions. Of course the Fire Seers have their Apprentices nearby as this is the 41st millennium and even they are not immortal.

Well, that sentence by itself means nothing. :huh:

What is it meant to mean?

The beliefs section is the best place to explore the motivations and mindset of your chapter - what makes them tick, in other words.

Why do they get up of a morning and go slaying the enemies of the Emperor? What do your Chapter think of other Astartes with different practices? What do other Astartes think of your Chapter? What do your Chapter think of the Imperial Guard, or other factions within the imperium?

A

ccording to rumors the Dusk Lions are most likely descended from the Raven Guard. It is also rumored that the Dusk Lions were mixed with Ultramarine gene seed to better the stability of the Raven Guard gene seed while also improving speed, group loyalty, and strength. Unfortunately all records have been lost as to where there gene seed originated from.

What does the Chapter think of it's heritage?

Does it bother them that the records are lost? Do they strive to find out the truth? Or is it simply not important to them?

B

efore the battle is begun the Dusk Lions choose to enter mass prayer to the emperor that there quarry might be killed and that if they fall that day that he might visit upon them before there passing. The Dusk Lions have no specific battle cry but are known for inspirational displays of heroism.

But... You started the IA with a battle-cry.

Why not just move it down here? :sick:

Performing "Inspirational displays of heroism" is pretty much a universal trait of Space Marines. It's a given, like Orks being green and Eldar plotting. ;)

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All in all, it's not bad, especially considering it's your first attempt.

Take it from me, my first attempt was MUCH worse. ;)

There aren't any major faults or holes in your ideas, just plenty of room for expansion and fleshing out the personality of the Chapter.

*Puts on Liber Heraldry Dept. Hat*

Now, on to the colours. :D

You've thrown up, like, ten colour schemes that don't really look anything alike. As a result, I can only really conclude you don't know what to go with yet. :lol:

I don't know what the personality of your chapter is, as such, beyond the tribal aspect, but none of those schemes look overtly like Dusk Lions/Tigers at me.

So, as a member of the Heraldry Dept, and hopefully not presuming too much, may I make the following suggestions?

Feel free to use, ignore or modify these schemes as you see fit, they're just ideas I'm throwing out there.

[ScottishSmurf96]

The Dusk Lions have no scouts and instead train an initiate for longer periods of time compared to other chapters.

 

Surely they would have scouts if they hunt? They are the most stealthy and suited for hunting out of all SM units?

 

@Ace Debonair Loving those schemes man!

 

Tom

[UltraWorldWolves]

"Victory is worthless unless your quarrys head is taken"

Teachings of Grellic, Sky Lord of War Tribe Fire Rain

"From Dusk We Strike! Till Dawn We Stay!"

Battle Cry At The Defense Of The Valhallan Outpost 'Glaciel Fury'

 

Average Brother Marine

 

 

Origins

 

The Dusk Lions were formulated during the 21st founding in late M36 and are one of the chapters to have suffered severe mutations in the gene seed most notably the predatory eyes and feline like front teeth. The theory behind the Dusk Lions creation is that at the time the Ultima Segmentum was under constant attack by the Orks and was getting increasingly challenging for the Imperial Guard regiments stationed there so in response the Dusk Lions were created. As they are a young chapter they are eager to prove themselves but have been set back by many unfortunate events like the inquisitions investigation to determine whether they retain spiritual purity despite their mutations. Another event was the evolved predator Quallu a breed of fishlike humanoid that evolved from an innocent fish to the monstrous being it is now. This creature kills children that get too close. There simply was not enough hunters in the tribes to kill the Quallu, hunt for food, and teach the surviving boys how to hunt. In response the Heaven Lord himself (See Organization) and other hand picked marines went on a mass hunt. This lasted for 3 Terran years until finally the Heaven Lord and his retinue returned draped in the skin of slain Quallu.

 

Kolarden

 

The Dusk Lions homeworld is based in the Ultima Segmentum part of the galaxy. They are closely acsociated with the famous Valhallan Ice Warriors and have helped them in their defense of major ork incursions mainly in assassinating priority target ork leaders. Kolarden is an ancient marsh world dating back to the years of the Great Crusade. This marsh world is enveloped by swamps hundreds of miles wide while the little land that their is is inhabitated by people who believe in the art of hunting animals. Skining the fur off the body of ones first kill and then adorning it with tokens of fallen beasts to landmark an event. This is reflected in the chapter for a chosen boy to become a full space marine he has to hunt and kill a  a giant predatory cat called a Leonine closely resembling the majestic lion of ancient terra. In that they are heavily featured in hunting and that if you cannot hunt for yourself then you are just another mouth to feed.This is why there recruitment is slow as most young children on Kolarden cannot hunt. But this is also why their initiates have the best training there can be in the art of war.

 

Combat Doctrine

 

The Dusk Lions follow the codex Astartes just in their own  interpretation. They take with them from their life before their rise to space marine the art of the hunt. They learn and improve upon their ability to track and identify xenos creatures.Whence they find their quarry they  fight in a style of controlled fury knowing when and where they should strike. They are learned in letting their prey not know when they are there .Being that these are their preferred styles of warfare their main strategy of war is stalk the quarry, isolate from the group, then pounce and kill. There War Tribes(see below)are very diverse in the style of hunting as there respective Sky Lord(see below) teaches them their original tribes style of hunt.

 

Organization

 

The Dusk Lions are codex adherent except that they are split into War Tribes instead of companies, Sky Lords instead of captains, Fire Seers instead of librarians, and finally the Heaven Lord instead of a chapter master. These are mainly just titles but are deep in meaning in that the holding of memories is most sacred and to abandon your old tribe to be put into a War Tribe is the highest of honors so a Dusk Lion is never without a tribe. Also the name changes of their offices is also integrated into the tribal system before their ris to space marine. Whence an initiate passes their tests they and one other are bonded in a sharing of blood ritual the pair then are sworn into a War Tribe by sharing blood with their Sky Lord. There can never be a new Sky Lord chosen outside of the War Tribe and never can one be moved to a different War Tribe. The Dusk Lions have no scouts and instead train an initiate for longer periods of time compared to other chapters. Surprisingly the Dusk Lions seem to disdain the non-archaic equipment like the Mk7 Aquila armour. The armour they tend to use more is the Mk2 Crusade, the Mk3 Iron, and the Mk4 Maximus armour types. They tend to favor the Phobos pattern bolter and the Umbra pattern bolter. The way that they get these shipments is all due to their superstitions. They never accept a piece of equipment without first sending it to the sending it to the Adeptus Mechanicus. As this is the case the Adeptus Mechanicus sends shipments replacing the Aquila armour and standard bolters with the more archaic mark armours and bolter patterns.

 

Beliefs

 

The Dusk Lions believe in the holding of memories as Gulliman taught his Ultramarines 'Information is victory' and so without memory there can be no information and information is needed to hunt. They believe to betray ones faith and brothers is the worst of all wrong doings. The Dusk Lions hold their faith in the emperor as they believe the Emperor showed them that without faith there is no reason to live for him. The Dusk Lions are highly superstitious so they always have with them at least one Fire Seer so they may keep back the daemons of the warp and sift through the warp to decipher the next major event as they are highly skilled and accurate in their predictions. Of course the Fire Seers have their Apprentices nearby as this is the 41st millennium and even they are not immortal.

 

Gene Seed

 

According to rumors the Dusk Lions are most likely descended from the Raven Guard. It is also rumored that the Dusk Lions were mixed with Ultramarine gene seed to better the stability of the Raven Guard gene seed while also improving speed, group loyalty, and strength. Unfortunately all records have been lost as to where there gene seed originated from. Although they do not know of their gene heritage they believe in the rumors and take pride in being sons of Guilliman and Corax. Of course nobody really knows the truth.

 

Battle Cry

 

Before the battle is begun the Dusk Lions choose to enter mass prayer to the emperor that there quarry might be killed and that if they fall that day that he might visit upon them before there passing. There battle crys are completely spur of the moment (examples can be seen at the top).

[UltraWorldWolves]

Brother Marine

"Victory is worthless unless your preys head is taken"
Teachings of Grellic, Sky Lord of War Tribe Fire Rain
"From Dusk We Strike! Till Dawn We Stay!"
Battle Cry At The Defense Of The Valhallan Outpost 'Glaciel Fury'

Origins

T

he Emperors Pride chapter were formulated during the 21st founding in late M36 and are one of the chapters to have suffered severe mutations in the gene seed most notably the predatory eyes and feline like front teeth. The theory behind the Emperors Pride's creation is that at the time the Ultima Segmentum was under constant attack by the Orks and was getting increasingly challenging for the Imperial Guard regiments stationed there so in response the Emperors Pride was created. As they are a young chapter they are eager to prove themselves but have been set back by many unfortunate events like the inquisitions investigation to determine whether they retain spiritual purity despite their mutations. Another event was the evolved predator Quallu a breed of fishlike humanoid that evolved from an innocent fish to the monstrous being it is now. This creature kills children that get too close. There simply was not enough hunters in the prides to kill the Quallu, hunt for food, and teach the surviving boys how to hunt. In response the Heaven Lord himself (See Organization) and other hand picked marines went on a mass hunt. This lasted for 3 Terran years until finally the Heaven Lord and his retinue returned draped in the skin of slain Quallu.

Kolarden

T

he Emperors Prides homeworld is based in the Ultima Segmentum part of the galaxy. They are closely acsociated with the famous Valhallan Ice Warriors and have helped them in their defense of major ork incursions mainly in assassinating priority target ork leaders. Kolarden is an ancient marsh world dating back to the years of the Great Crusade. This marsh world is enveloped by swamps hundreds of miles wide while the little land that their is is inhabitated by people who believe in the art of hunting animals. Skining the fur off the body of ones first kill and then adorning it with tokens of fallen beasts to landmark an event. This is reflected in the chapter for a chosen boy to become a full space marine he has to hunt and kill a a giant predatory cat called a Leonine closely resembling the majestic lion of ancient terra. In that they are heavily featured in hunting and that if you cannot hunt for yourself then you are just another mouth to feed. So the only requirement for a boy to be chosen is that he needs to know how to hunt. This is why there recruitment is slow as most young children on Kolarden cannot hunt. But this is also why their initiates have the best training there can be in the art of war.

Combat Doctrine

T

he Emperors Pride follow the codex Astartes just in their own interpretation. They take with them from their life before their rise to space marine the art of the hunt. They learn and improve upon their ability to track and identify xenos creatures.Whence they find their quarry they fight in a style of controlled fury knowing when and where they should strike. They are learned in letting their prey not know when they are there .Being that these are their preferred styles of warfare their main strategy of war is stalk the prey, isolate from the group, then pounce and kill. There War Prides(see below)are very diverse in the style of hunting as there respective Sky Lord(see below) teaches them their original tribes style of hunt.

Organization

T

heEmperors Pride are codex adherent except that they are split into War Prides instead of companies, Sky Lords instead of captains, Fire Seers instead of librarians, and finally the Heaven Lord instead of a chapter master. These are mainly just titles but are deep in meaning in that the holding of memories is most sacred and to abandon your old tribe to be put into a War Tribe is the highest of honors so a Emperors Pride marine is never without a tribe. Also the name changes of their offices is also integrated into the tribal system before their ris to space marine. Whence an initiate passes their tests they and one other are bonded in a sharing of blood ritual the pair then are sworn into a War Pride by sharing blood with their Sky Lord. There can never be a new Sky Lord chosen outside of the War Pride and never can one be moved to a different War Pride. The Emperors Pride have no scouts and instead train an initiate for longer periods of time compared to other chapters. Surprisingly the Emperors Pride seem to disdain the non-archaic equipment like the Mk7 Aquila armour. The armour they tend to use more is the Mk2 Crusade, the Mk3 Iron, and the Mk4 Maximus armour types. They tend to favor the Phobos pattern bolter and the Umbra pattern bolter. The way that they get these shipments is all due to their superstitions. They never accept a piece of equipment without first sending it to the Adeptus Mechanicus. As this is the case the Adeptus Mechanicus sends shipments replacing the Aquila armour and standard bolters with the more archaic mark armours and bolter patterns.

Beliefs

T

he Emperors Pride believe in the holding of memories as Gulliman taught his Ultramarines 'Information is victory' and so without memory there can be no information and information is needed to hunt. They believe to betray ones faith and brothers is the worst of all wrong doings. The Emperors Pride hold their faith in the emperor as they believe the Emperor showed them that without faith in him there is no reason to live for him. This supposed vision is claimed to have happened when during late M37there was a massive amount of traitors in the ranks. When the Heaven Lord learned of this he burned all of the traitors at the stake and recorded their screams so they would never forget this heresy. Since then there have been no heretics within their ranks and have castigated any heretic that they have encountered. The Emperors Pride are highly superstitious so they always have with them at least one Fire Seer so they may keep back the daemons of the warp and sift through the warp to decipher the next major event as they are highly skilled and accurate in their predictions. Of course the Fire Seers have their Apprentices nearby as this is the 41st millennium and even they are not immortal.

Gene Seed

A

ccording to rumors the Emperors Pride are most likely descended from the Raven Guard. It is also rumored that the Emperors Pride were mixed with Ultramarine gene seed to better the stability of the Raven Guard gene seed while also improving speed, group loyalty, and strength. Unfortunately all records have been lost as to where there gene seed originated from. Although they do not know of their gene heritage they believe in the rumors and take pride in being sons of Guilliman and Corax. Of course nobody really knows the truth.

Battle Cry

B

efore the battle is begun the Emperors Pride choose to enter mass prayer to the emperor that there quarry might be killed and that if they fall that day that he might visit upon them before there passing. There battle crys are completely spur of the moment and are never repeated (examples can be seen at the top).

[Nineswords]

I preferred 'Dusk Lions' ever 'Emperor's Pride', personally.

 

But if you are going to keep the new name, then it's spelt 'Emperor's Pride' (note the apostrophe - the chapter belongs to the Emperor - his pride).

 

Secondly, pretty much every opening to the section begins with 'The Emperor's Pride', you must just want to change that.

 

My two cents.

 

-J

[Ace Debonair]

My advice to the OP at this point is to edit the first post of this topic with your up to date version of the Chapter, and edit that first post from then on with the updates instead of reposting the new article very time you change something. ;)

 

It's tidier and less confusing to readers - I read one of your posts all the way through before I realised there was another, more up to date post underneath it, for instance. ;)

While I'll concede I can be uniquely silly even amongst the Liberites here, if I can make that mistake others can too!

[UltraWorldWolves]

@Ace Debonair Ya I'll probably make a new topic so it won't be so misleading(topic title)you know?

 

@Nineswords I like Emperor's Pride because they are Lions and a Lion Pride is the equivalent of a wolf pack. Also the thing about starting every section with 'The Emperor's Pride' is force of habit that my English teacher forced upon me by being specific instead of saying 'they' or 'those people' but I will probably change it as the title is The Emperor's Pride. ;)

[Ace Debonair]

@Ace Debonair Ya I'll probably make a new topic so it won't be so misleading(topic title)you know?

 

Oops, that's not actually what I meant. ;)

This is already a thread about your chapter, you see, so you won't need another one.

 

If you go back and use the edit button at the bottom of your first post, you can put the most up-to-date version of your chapter in post 1.

It's not strictly neccesary to do so, but it's considered a neat way of doing things, since it cuts down on the number of big update posts. ^_^

 

If you wanted, you could also rename this topic by editing your first post. :D

 

 

EDIT:

And only then do I spot you've already posted a new topic.

 

Wake up, Ace. :)

[UltraWorldWolves]

Oh :mellow:... I didn't know that... Now I feel like a fool :lol:

[Ace Debonair]

Oh ;)... I didn't know that... Now I feel like a fool ^_^

 

No worries, at least you're now armed with the knowledge for the future. ;)