Raensleyar Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I have managed to assemble my army and there are about 80 models or so. Painting them looks daunting. My plan was to spray paint them grey and then use badab black for shading; however, someone at my LGS also suggested I look into army painter and their quick shade as badab black bottles could get expensive. Anyone use that on space wolves? Which color primer would be a good base? Which quickshade? Is the quickshade a large can of wash or something else? Any alternative suggestions? I am wanting a fairly dark grey colored army with accents in the traditional reds and yellows. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyChief Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I would recommend getting on of their dropper bottles when they come on the market and try it out first. I purchased a can of the "strong" shade and did one model..... I am still not too convinced I like it or not. I had no idea the dropper bottles were coming out or I would have waited for that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/#findComment-3011248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 This is a review of some Army Painter products: Army Painter on Warhammer Tau. If you are wanting amazing minis, the product will not make that happen, generally speaking. However, if you want a fully painted force for gaming, then it will do that well enough ^_^ +++ More links, all from Lyoss Is Burning blog: 1. guide to dipping 2. back to dipping Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/#findComment-3011301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I used the Army Painter Quick Shade for my army. As has been mentioned, it will get you a tabletop quality army to enjoy. However, I am advancing in the hobby and wont be using it in the next SW army. Good for a beginner who wants a decent looking army, but if you are wanting to advance later on, I would say get the modeling/experience now with your army instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/#findComment-3011305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 As to painting minis, I have discovered something that is a reality for me. I cannot paint hordes of minis. Too long, bored, my neck hurts, why am I doing this? I'm sure I have to clean the loo/do homework/anything else, etc. ^_^ I have made many minis, and so in an effort to be efficient with paint and time, have painted groups of 20+ men, iIrc. It was painful! Sure it was quicker, but to be honest, it was work, not hobby time. My Retribution of Scyrah force consists of 10 man units. As units are different from one another, rather than all being the same (ie, Marinesin power armour) I had no want to "be efficient" and so I have painted two ten man units separately. This was so much more enjoyable than had I tried to be efficient and do all 20 at once. I saw progress far earlier, which encouraged me and kept me going. A happy worker is an effective worker, or something like that. I was my minis in soapy water, rinse them, and then go about the bases. Even though I have another 20ish minis to do, I deliberately only did it for the 10 Riflemen, even though those other 10ish could have all been done together. I see progress and so am remaining motivated :) If I had your 80 minis to do, I would do them in batches of 10, and put the other 70 in the draw or where ever is out of the way for you. That way you will not be overawed and dismayed about painting up a whole armies worth of Marines. +++ There are many SW painting tutorials about the place. Find one that you like the look of and are brave enough to try. Then execute that scheme. Your goal for painting your minis 'should' be to have an army you like looking at, rather than having an army you have completed quickly. Imo, anyway :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/#findComment-3011306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlbitz Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I am learning to love the Army Painter Sprays, it gives a nice even base coat on the model. Here is a tank I did using it. I used the Wolf Gray for the main body of the tank, Platemail for the Lascannons and the Red spray for the weapon cover piece, and the doors. I don't use the quickshade, but did use badab black on the weapons. I then highlighted as normal Hope this helps Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/#findComment-3011406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwulf Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I use Quick Shade when... I'm painting units of 100 Skaven Rats. Large (40+) blocks of troops. 10 Space Marines? No prob. 10 model units of another game, which is really 12 models if you include the unit attachment, no prob. These I don't use Quickshade on. Just remember, you HAVE to let the dipped models dry AT LEAST 24 hours. They will dry glossy- shiny and wet looking. It'll take a spray of some kind of dull coat to dull them down. As noted, it gets you a painted army quickly, but it's not going to win any awards, unless you spend MORE time after you dip them to add details and highlites. The Armory Spray Primer colors are awesome! Can't recommend them enough. Assemble the mini, spray it the color of your choice, use a contrasting GW Wash (Devlin Mudd works 90% of the time on all colors), add a little detail, and you can be DONE. Base it and hilight if you want. This process gives you probably the most bang for your efforts and wallet. The Armory website has some great tutorials on how to use their products. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/#findComment-3011536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWolf12 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I just ordered my spray and quick shade and they should be here on Monday-Tuesday. I am doing a couple of trail models and will post some picks before the end of the week(hopefully). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/#findComment-3011648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I just ordered my spray and quick shade and they should be here on Monday-Tuesday. I am doing a couple of trail models and will post some picks before the end of the week(hopefully). As has been said, be sure and check out the tutorials on the Army Painter website. Specifically on shaking or getting the excess Quick Shade off models after dipping. And as has been mentioned, pick up a can of Testors Dull Coat for the models after they have dried or you will have a very, very shiny army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/#findComment-3011745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raensleyar Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 Thanks for the info. I am looking to do more than tabletop quality. So, I'll likely use the army painter sprays, but stick to the GW washes. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/#findComment-3011983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainwashed Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Here is an example of what I consider an above average example using the Army Painter colors with washes. Hopefully it helps. I would be very happy with an army that looks like his final results. :ph34r: I hope this helps you decide. Figuring out a color scheme is one of the most challenging parts of the hobby for me. If I had seen this blog post before starting down the colors I have now I would have used this technique. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/#findComment-3016506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainwashed Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I am learning to love the Army Painter Sprays, it gives a nice even base coat on the model. Here is a tank I did using it. I used the Wolf Gray for the main body of the tank, Platemail for the Lascannons and the Red spray for the weapon cover piece, and the doors. I don't use the quickshade, but did use badab black on the weapons. I then highlighted as normal Hope this helps Wow Littlebitz I just looked at your gallery and and am very impressed. I like what you do with all of your greenstuff work and your highlights are great! Well done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/#findComment-3016517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Here is an example of what I consider an above average example using the Army Painter colors with washes. Hopefully it helps. I would be very happy with an army that looks like his final results. :D I hope this helps you decide. Figuring out a color scheme is one of the most challenging parts of the hobby for me. If I had seen this blog post before starting down the colors I have now I would have used this technique. Those look really good! I would rather a stronger yellow, but other than that, they look very nice. Good spot! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/#findComment-3016786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taeken Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I've used Quickshade - Strong on my ork army. Like previous posters stated it does a great job of speeding things up for a tabletop quality army. Just hit em with a spray of Dull Coat or something similar to take the shine off. Also, to save $ you can hit up your local home improvement store and pick up some MinWax varnish in the tint of your choice. It is basically the same thing as the Quickshade just 1/2 cheaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248681-army-painter-color-and-quickshade/#findComment-3016821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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