Spinsanity Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I was about to place an order with FW for one of those mythic beasts ( :) ), but since I don't have IA:Apoc yet (gonna be included in the order), I figured I'd ask on here just so I don't go about adding useless parts to my order : can the SW contemptor dread take twin DCCWs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 I'm not looking for the full rules or anything like that, really, just a quick confirmation that I should or should not include a second DCCW to the order... :\ I guess I'll give FW a call and ask :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3013839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Not having the new IA, just FW's generic downloadable ones, all Contemptors can have twin ccw. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3013862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I was about to place an order with FW for one of those mythic beasts ( :P ), but since I don't have IA:Apoc yet (gonna be included in the order), I figured I'd ask on here just so I don't go about adding useless parts to my order : can the SW contemptor dread take twin DCCWs? Why, yes, yes it can. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3013868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I was about to place an order with FW for one of those mythic beasts ( :D ), but since I don't have IA:Apoc yet (gonna be included in the order), I figured I'd ask on here just so I don't go about adding useless parts to my order : can the SW contemptor dread take twin DCCWs? Why, yes, yes it can. :lol: wolf brother dswanick is correct. Also the Contemptor comes standard with Twin-linked Heavy Bolter, DCCW with in-built Storm Bolter, and Smoke Launchers. An extra DCCW cost the same about as a combi-weapon. For an extra 5pts, it can have a chainfist with in-built Storm Bolter. Or exchange the in-built Storm Bolters with Heavy Flamer for same price as a combi-weapon. Carapace-mounted Cyclone Missile Launcher is nice! cost just as much as a Space Marine Bike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3013892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 I was about to place an order with FW for one of those mythic beasts ( :D ), but since I don't have IA:Apoc yet (gonna be included in the order), I figured I'd ask on here just so I don't go about adding useless parts to my order : can the SW contemptor dread take twin DCCWs? Why, yes, yes it can. :lol: Well, that does answer the question I had... :D Now to ponder whether I should go with fists (which wouldn't need to be converted to have a SB or HF), or claws, which arguably look more SpaceWolf-esque, but come with GravGun/PlasCutter... :\ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3013900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 night sagas are awesome! wish we had them on our regular codex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3013936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSniperMonkey Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Sorry, what is a night saga? :-$ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3014213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Sorry, what is a night saga? :-$ SW Contemptor must take one of the special sagas. They're like the sagas we have in our codex, only this one is specific to the SW Contemptor. There are 3 of them. Saga of the Black Cull. Saga of the Forsaken One and Saga of the Iron God. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3014232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I'd rather play with and convert a decimator dreadnought into a SW contemptor. Looks more badass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3014322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khine Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'd rather play with and convert a decimator dreadnought into a SW contemptor. Looks more badass. I could be wrong but i THINK... that you just gave yourself a challenge brother? @thesnipermonkey: To elaborate on Skadi's mentioning of the sagas but not give full rules. One gives the Dread furious charge, another gives it counter-attack and the last gives it +1 to the damage table. It might be interesting to convert a SW Contemptor Dread to mimic an attacking rabid wolf if someone wanted to use one purely with two close combat weapons. Side Thought!! Going by the rules of Bjorn and the rules for the SW Contemptor Dread.. is it likely to assume Bjorn should probably be one too? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3014372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Side Thought!! Going by the rules of Bjorn and the rules for the SW Contemptor Dread.. is it likely to assume Bjorn should probably be one too? No, Space Wolf Contemptor dreads are considered ill-omened - something Bjorn most definitely is not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3014386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Devil Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I have some questions since down the road I plan to buy one myself. And I would be in the same boat as player not found; ordering the model and book at the same time. I'm leaning towards two claws and cyclone missile launcher which I believe is legal. I would hate to spend that much money and get an illegal combo. Do the claws have their own rules or are they the same as the hands? And are there any of the weapon options not available to the SW contemptor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3014470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I have some questions since down the road I plan to buy one myself. And I would be in the same boat as player not found; ordering the model and book at the same time. I'm leaning towards two claws and cyclone missile launcher which I believe is legal. I would hate to spend that much money and get an illegal combo. Do the claws have their own rules or are they the same as the hands? And are there any of the weapon options not available to the SW contemptor? The only Contemptor with actual claws with rules are the Blood Angels, blood talons. There are two types of DCCW pieces available, the normal looking fingers and the clawed fingers. So yes, they are the same as the hands for Space Wolves. As for weapon options that ARE available... ::STANDARD:: Twin-linked heavy bolter DCCW with built-in storm bolter Smoke launchers ::OPTIONS:: can exchange Twin-linked heavy bolter with the following.. Multi-melta Twin-linked heavy flamer Twin-linked Autocannon Plasma Cannon Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon Twin-linked Lascannon DCCW with built-in storm bolter Chainfist with built-in storm bolter you also have the option to exchange the built-in storm bolters with a Heavy Flamer ::OTHER OPTIONS:: Extra Armour Searchlights Wolf Tail Talisman Wolf Tooth Necklace Carapace-mounted Cyclone Missile Launcher Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3014578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewi Sant Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Space Wolves Contemptor with 2xDCCW, Heavy Flamers, WTN and Saga of the Black Cull. That is one close combat monster! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3015413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSniperMonkey Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Sorry, what is a night saga? :-$ SW Contemptor must take one of the special sagas. They're like the sagas we have in our codex, only this one is specific to the SW Contemptor. There are 3 of them. Saga of the Black Cull. Saga of the Forsaken One and Saga of the Iron God. I'd rather play with and convert a decimator dreadnought into a SW contemptor. Looks more badass. I could be wrong but i THINK... that you just gave yourself a challenge brother? @thesnipermonkey: To elaborate on Skadi's mentioning of the sagas but not give full rules. One gives the Dread furious charge, another gives it counter-attack and the last gives it +1 to the damage table. It might be interesting to convert a SW Contemptor Dread to mimic an attacking rabid wolf if someone wanted to use one purely with two close combat weapons. Side Thought!! Going by the rules of Bjorn and the rules for the SW Contemptor Dread.. is it likely to assume Bjorn should probably be one too? Thanks guys! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3015936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Tekka Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Space Wolves Contemptor with 2xDCCW, Heavy Flamers, WTN and Saga of the Black Cull. That is one close combat monster! I was thinking similar. except with 1xDCCW and 1 chainfist and a cyclone missile launcher. or would that not quite work like I think it would? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3015992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybrus Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Space Wolves Contemptor with 2xDCCW, Heavy Flamers, WTN and Saga of the Black Cull. That is one close combat monster! I was thinking similar. except with 1xDCCW and 1 chainfist and a cyclone missile launcher. or would that not quite work like I think it would? I would go for the second DCCW over the Chain fist. As it counts as a Powerfist already it would be Str 8 or 10 (I don't recall) I know you are thinking you want the 2d6 vs. Armor but in the long run of the game where you will be in CC with units more often then vehicles ( even if the enemy is just feeding it to you to stop you) that +2 attacks per tune (One in your H2H one in His) will do far more good then the extra Anti armor. You also will have +1 more attack which in the long run (Im not going to do the math) at least help off set the averages when you Mathhammer the effect.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3016242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loathir's Own Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I have one with 2 dccws, Heavy Flamer and cyclone ml, I usually run him with couter-attack. For those of you that are fluff hounds these guys are regarded as out casts that are waiting to finish their saga. They don't give an exact number but they imply that there are not many left. I ran him the other night in a 2k+2k v 4k, me and Eldar v GK. He did pretty good he killed some strike squad gk and a razor back and immobilized a rhino he never made it to combat though :tu: . There where just too many daemon hammers to get him into the final termi squad. Our eldar wolf coalition work out great. However I found that Deathwind drop pods are awful unless they have assault cannons but that was still not as effective as I was hoping. If you do run a contemptor with a dual ccw Cyclone ML I would run him in a drop pod as mine was gunning for combat and only on the last turn decided to jump back from on rushing termies with 3 hammers. This is a little off topic but I did want to mention something funny. Me and the same people who were playing that game have a campaign going on. I had a terminator squad and last minute decided to put in my wolf guard battle leader as a regualr terminator who is kitted with, terminator armor, frost axe and ss. He survived all game and on the last turn he got charged by a grand master and a brother hood champion, the brother hood champ hammer handed perils ed and killed himself survived the grand masters blows put a wound on the grand master won combat and the grand master ran away. If the game had gone on he would have ran off the table as he was 6" away from my lone terminator, mind you he was alone the rest had been shot to death and one battle brother had perished in cc. I looked at the model after that and said "You deserve a paint job!" as he is not yet painted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248873-sw-contemptor-dread/#findComment-3017453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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