Tchort Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Latest Forge World newsletter came out today, with a new kit for Chaos players. The Chaos Decimator Daemon Engine. The Decimator is a brutal and hellish creation; the essence of a creature of the Warp bound and fettered within the armoured bulk of a bipedal war machine. Great slab-shoulders of tainted and defiled ceramite and adamantium, and a low-set ‘head’ give the Decimator a characteristic hunched posture which exudes brooding and vicious menace. Inquisitorial savants do not know for sure what malefic party is responsible for this sinful innovation as the Decimator is capable of fielding a wide range of armament: rapid-firing Butcher Cannons, multi-barrelled Stormlasers, and great raking Siege Claws to name but a few. Towering over even the mighty Contemptor Pattern Dreadnoughts of the Adeptus Astartes, the Decimator is believed to be an attempt to bolster the ranks of such ancient devices that still serve the Traitor Legions. If this is the truth, then it is feared that many warriors of the Imperium will fall before these deadly war machines. The Decimator Daemon Engine, designed by Daren Parrwood and Edgar Skomorowski, is an incredibly detailed full resin kit that stands roughly 4" (102mm) tall. Weapons for this fell war machine are sold separately, and Daren has designed three weapons kits that are released alongside the body kit: the Decimator Storm Laser, Decimator Siege Claw and Decimator Butcher Cannon. All these kits are available to pre-order now for despatch from Monday 2nd April, and you can also download experimental rules for the Decimator from the Forge World website. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/decimator9.jpg So how are you going to run yours? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Looks like someone's been playing Warmachine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 While their lack of imagination isn't too suprising, I did think that the warmachine robot thing screamed "chaos" when I first saw it. Really though for 150 points I want 13 front and maybe 11 sides, at the very least make it 12/12/11 or something like the defiler. This truly is underwhelming though as it is now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
totgeboren Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Unholy Vigour and Daemonic Possession makes a front AV of 12 seems quite sufficient. And if you really want a beast give it the mark of Nurgle. It's a much cheaper Butcher cannon platform than the Contemptor, it doesn't cost too much compared to a regular defiler (money-wise), and looks cool. 2x Butcher cannon and you have some serious fire support! One other thing I noticed is that the butcher cannon looks almost exactly like the reaper autocannon from the Defiler kit. It might be in for upgraded rules when the next codex arrives? As it is now, it just looks silly to have the same rules for that gun and the Terminator reaper autocannon, so I won't complain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araziel Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I was initially like :D when I saw it, but I have to say I'm not too sure anymore. I think the rules that we've seen between this and the Chaos Contemptor's may indeed be a glimpse into the new rules for Chaos Legions and I have to say, I'm glad I'm building an all-Nurgle army right now! This thing is a beast if marked with Nurgle.. I'm not entirely sold on the model now, though. I'm hoping to attend the 40k Doubles tournament next September in Warhammer World, so I think I may see about having a nosey at this guy while I'm there. Seeing it in the flesh might help me decide... and then in that case, I'll be leaving with him and a Contemptor. As for how to run him... I'd be tempted to leave him with those evil looking talons. Rules wise, they seem pretty damn good... imagine what would happen to a Tactical squad inside a Rhino that this guy tears into with two flamer attacks going inside?? Edit; LOL, after looking at it again after writing this post, I was suddenly struck by how much he looks like an Epic 40,000 scale Titan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestorm40k Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 It is my birthday this weekend. Guess what I'm going to ask for? :D I don't know what the fuss about the AV is all about. Have you seen what it does to transports, and those inside??? :D Seriously, I'm just jazzed that we're getting SOMETHING new for Chaos. I hope there's more to come! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araziel Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hmm. The sudden appearance of this kit makes me wonder... As far as I'm aware, Imperial Armour 11 - The Doom of Mymeara doesn't have any Chaos units in it (anybody correct me if I'm wrong here, feel free). So does the sudden release of this mean that there is the possibility of a new IA book on the horizon with new Chaos stuff in it to co-inside with Chaos Legions? Certainly some food for thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colossus Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I'm not sold on the legs. I think they would have been better with more normal jointed legs like the contemptor, rather than the multi-jointed contraption that we have. It looks off-balance to me, like its about to topple forwards. Other than that, it looks pretty good. Sorry to double post but... Hmm. The sudden appearance of this kit makes me wonder... As far as I'm aware, Imperial Armour 11 - The Doom of Mymeara doesn't have any Chaos units in it (anybody correct me if I'm wrong here, feel free). So does the sudden release of this mean that there is the possibility of a new IA book on the horizon with new Chaos stuff in it to co-inside with Chaos Legions? Certainly some food for thought. Isn't the next book supposed to be Tzeentch marines (I've heard NOT Thousand Sons) vs the Minotaurs in boarding action style engagements? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araziel Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Is it? I hadn't heard anything on the matter, I was just speculating. If it IS Tzeentch, then I'm really looking forward to seeing what FW comes up with. Along with Slaanesh, they've been left out of the loop for far too long. I likely wouldn't buy any of the kits, but I really would like to see some FW love spread over the four powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 As far as it looking like a Warjack, I've always thought Warjacks looked like 40k titans given the 'steampunk treatment', so it doesn't bother me. It looks cool to me, whatever inspired it in reality, and more importently I think it is consistent with the Forge World Chaos design aesthetic. That aside, I'm thinking Butcher Cannon and Storm Laser combo with the MoN. I think the Defiler should get a Butcher Cannon, because it doesn't make sense the big cannon it has (which look like this Butcher Cannon) is the same thing that Terminators carry (which is much smaller). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Yeah and in order to be useful with those cool looking claws it has to actually reach its intended target. Unless they change something around I'll wind up sticking with my defilers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Yeah and in order to be useful with those cool looking claws it has to actually reach its intended target. Unless they change something around I'll wind up sticking with my defilers. This is an Elites choice, though, so you can do both. This is moving toward the 'CrazyvChaos Pyscho Robots' army I've always dreamed of... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colossus Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Is it? I hadn't heard anything on the matter, I was just speculating. If it IS Tzeentch, then I'm really looking forward to seeing what FW comes up with. Along with Slaanesh, they've been left out of the loop for far too long. I likely wouldn't buy any of the kits, but I really would like to see some FW love spread over the four powers. This is what I found with a quick search-fu: The thread and the quote from it: The Minotaurs are said to show up in IA 12 again. http://www.chaos-dwarfs.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9827 Imperial Armour Volume 12 is called The Morros Incident (several gags about Morris Dancing at this point)Set on a Prison Planet with a subterranean labyrinth prison. Will feature Penal Legion, Minotaurs space marine chapter (Minotaurs in a Labyrinth? Go figure) Tzeentch http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php...amp;postcount=7 Imperial Armour masterclass 2 is next book after IA 11.Then IA12 - The Morros Incident - contents as reported previously. Little extra details given except for minotaurs pads etc. I did read it somewhere else, however I can't remember where. It jives with the Minotaurs stuff FW are releasing. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 That is a freaking sweet-looking monstrosity!!! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Looks awesome. I might pick one up. It couls probably be run as a counts as defiler as well. I like! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Warjacks are hideous steampunk junk. This is cool. With infantry being useless in 40k these days, its inevitable this is whats next.. you've already bought some rhinos. Anyway it looks totally badass. I approve. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I was playing with one of these last time I was at HQ (playing as in "walking it around a Mortalis board and saying "Stomp, stomp, stomp, Welcome to your doom, KAPOW!" rather than playing in an actual game) and I fell in love with it. It's out earlier than I thought it would be, which is all to the good. It means I can use one in my campaign. Yes, sir. I shall have one at once. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3013995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Keyaetus Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Goddamnit my poor student loan, Ive just less than a hundred quid to somehow buy one of these for my iron warriors, mass effect 3 maybe, and somehow deal with st paddys day. Gonna be a long month if I go with all three. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3014018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Well after reading the rules a few more times I can see it might be useful as a CC beast. Decent number of attacks and the ability to get back up and threaten anything in range is nice. One question though. Reading through the rules, when it says "In addition if the Decimator is Wrecked (but does not suffer a Vehicle Explodes result when destroyed)" Does that mean that it's immune to the explodes? Or when it explodes that's it, no getting back up? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3014046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah-a-nothepsis Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Yes Nihm, someone has indeed been playing Warmachine I suspect that GW higher-ups will find them and have them sacked after they learn of this. They probably don't see the actual miniatures anyways. B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3014050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestorm40k Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I was playing with one of these last time I was at HQ (playing as in "walking it around a Mortalis board and saying "Stomp, stomp, stomp, Welcome to your doom, KAPOW!" rather than playing in an actual game) Games with you must just be epic ;) :P B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3014059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naz'kadun Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Reading through the rules, when it says "In addition if the Decimator is Wrecked (but does not suffer a Vehicle Explodes result when destroyed)" Does that mean that it's immune to the explodes? Or when it explodes that's it, no getting back up? Looks like explodes = no more getting back up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3014063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araziel Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Reading through the rules, when it says "In addition if the Decimator is Wrecked (but does not suffer a Vehicle Explodes result when destroyed)" Does that mean that it's immune to the explodes? Or when it explodes that's it, no getting back up? Looks like explodes = no more getting back up. That's how I read it, too. Otherwise... that would actually just be insane (and not the good insane). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3014117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 That's how I read it, too. Otherwise... that would actually just be insane (and not the good insane). Chaos is never the good kiind of insane! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3014207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Damn it FW, I'm a student , stop tempting me so! I'm already tempted by either the Contemptor or the wraithseer, and now you release this! My only hope is that no jetbike to land speeder sized fast attack option with some kind of either plasma or melta capability is not released, other wise my wallet/student loan will well and truly . I may be able to hold on until after exams this year, then in all honesty I may get either one of this or a contemptor, though there is my birthday in may.... Anyone else now also wondering what over sort of Daemon engines will be coming out? all I know is between these and the contemptor, my Thousand sons will be happy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/248875-chaos-decimator-daemon-engine/#findComment-3014324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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